BBC article has been reported to police as a "Hate Crime".

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That BBC article has been reported to the Met Police as a "Hate Crime". And it seems that others are now going to follow suit and perhaps even inundate the Met with this silly and vexatious claim.

Just when you think they cannot do anything more bonkers, they surprise you again.... and again.

If an article has a clear agenda and is setting out to villainise a group of people to try and entice others to hate them, then that is indeed hate. I don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least

Is it a hate crime now to villanise rapists? Should rapists not be the subject of our contempt if they belong to a particular group? Belonging to which groups gives rapists a pass? The Catholic Church? TV stars? Politicians? Or is it just people who are male but identify as women who are exempt from any blame?
Well Margarita which groups can rape with impunity?

"But if some of that group of people are rapists"

I thought it was about "pressuring into sex"?

Pressuring someone into sex (and persisting after they say no) is certainly sexual harassment, but it's not actual rape unless they've gone ahead and committed a rape.

@334bu

*If an article has a clear agenda and is setting out to villainise a group of people to try and entice others to hate them, then that is indeed hate. I don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least*

Is it a hate crime now to villanise rapists? Should rapists not be the subject of our contempt if they belong to a particular group? Belonging to which groups gives rapists a pass? The Catholic Church? TV stars? Politicians? Or is it just people who are male but identify as women who are exempt from any blame?
Well Margarita which groups can rape with impunity?

Are you implying transwomen are rapists?

So do you believe those women, marg?

Are you implying transwomen are rapists?

Some transwomen are rapists. There is no need to ‘imply’ this, just look at prison records.

You did surely not mean to imply it is for some reason impossible for any transwoman to ever rape, and that it has never ever happened?

Look, it’s a free country. If Marg wants to defend the rights of rapists to rape and sexual predators to harass that’s allowed.

If Marg wants to post on feminist boards “I don’t believe you” that’s allowed.

It’s horrible but it’s free speech.

I’m glad everyone can read what Marg feels about this so everyone can see it’s not actually about anything other than misogyny.

Pressuring someone into sex (and persisting after they say no) is certainly sexual harassment, but it's not actual rape unless they've gone ahead and committed a rape.

Yikes

Are you implying transwomen are rapists?

I am implying that some of the women in that article were raped. The fact that these particular rapists were transwomen is just that ,a fact. Not all Catholic priests are rapists and neither are all male TV stars , but some are and no matter the group they should be called out for it. There is no protected class for rapists.

Pressuring someone into sex (and persisting after they say no) is certainly sexual harassment, but it's not actual rape unless they've gone ahead and committed a rape.

Shame on you !

If I found myself part of an ideology that defends rapists, I would be really evaluating my life choices. Margarita, I really didn't think you could fall further in basic humanity but you've succeeded.

@334bu

*Pressuring someone into sex (and persisting after they say no) is certainly sexual harassment, but it's not actual rape unless they've gone ahead and committed a rape.*

Shame on you !

Good grief…can scarcely believe what I have just read. The lack of understanding and compassion and insight on display here is gob-smacking.

I also support MargaritaPie's right to stand by those who pressure women into sex (and persisting after they say no).

It needs the sterling efforts of the MargaritaPies of this world to open the eyes of the general public to how incredibly toxic the gender identity ideology really is.

Pressuring someone into sex (and persisting after they say no) is certainly sexual harassment, but it's not actual rape unless they've gone ahead and committed a rape.

Oh look, Nancy Kelly has joined MN.

I just need 'genital preferences are like racism' to get house.

Persisting in having sex with someone after they say no is LITERALLY rape.

Wow, @MargaritaPie what has happened to you in life that you would defend the actions of rapists?

Imagine the BBC wrote an article about how people from (insert name of a foreign country where people have darker skin) were criminals and terrible people making women unsafe in Britain etc etc.

Fear of this allowed grooming gangs in the north of England, not just Rotherham to rape with impunity for many years, hundreds of girls.

It was a national scandal and we were promised that lessons would be learned.

Child protection needs to run through all groups in society like lettering through sticks of rock.

No group should be allowed to rape without challenge, it is unsafe for vulnerable victims and ends up damaging the groups the rapists come from as well.

@MargaritaPie

"But if some of that group of people are rapists"

I thought it was about "pressuring into sex"?

Pressuring someone into sex (and persisting after they say no) is certainly sexual harassment, but it's not actual rape unless they've gone ahead and committed a rape.

@MargaritaPie

Please explain to me how freely given enthusiastic consent is obtained through coercion and pressure?

Been following the thread and I'm really surprised tbh to see that comment from MP.

I'm really interested in what gone ahead and committed rape means in context of the post. Does it mean threats/ violence etc? Cos a no has been given and the pressure has been kept going...

'Pressuring someone into sex (and persisting after they say no) is certainly sexual harassment, but it's not actual rape unless they've gone ahead and committed a rape'

"Persisting with sex after they say no" is 100% rape. It's not even a "grey area". Its not sexual harassment. It is rape!

Its like one of those TikTok challenges isn't it. Tell me how much you hate women without saying you hate women

@Fallingirl

Are you implying transwomen are rapists?

Some transwomen are rapists. There is no need to ‘imply’ this, just look at prison records.

You did surely not mean to imply it is for some reason impossible for any transwoman to ever rape, and that it has never ever happened?

Given the number of transwomen in the world, yes you could say "some transwomen are rapists". You could also say the same for just about any given group.

Is the point here meant to be that a transwoman picked at random is more likely to be a rapist than a random non-transwoman?

Due to the mangling of the English language by TRA's, it's unclear whether you've used 'non transwoman' when you mean woman or whether you've used 'non transwoman' when you mean man.

And yes, any transwoman picked at random is more likely to be a rapist than a woman. Males (however they identify) are massively more likely to rape than women.

And a transwoman is male so is no less likely to rape than a man - there is no evidence to say otherwise.

So "transwomen are rapists"?

So men are rapists?

@MargaritaPie

So "transwomen are rapists"?

How is this unclear to you? Transwomen who rape are rapists. Transwomen who don't and haven't are not rapists. Why are you so determined to think being AMAB and trans has anything to do with raping? You seem completely unable to determine what makes someone a rapist or not. Clue: it's raping.