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BBC article has been reported to police as a "Hate Crime".

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Maskless · 27/10/2021 23:16

That BBC article has been reported to the Met Police as a "Hate Crime". And it seems that others are now going to follow suit and perhaps even inundate the Met with this silly and vexatious claim.

Just when you think they cannot do anything more bonkers, they surprise you again.... and again.

BBC article has been reported to police as a "Hate Crime".
BBC article has been reported to police as a "Hate Crime".
BBC article has been reported to police as a "Hate Crime".
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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 29/10/2021 00:01

It occurs to me that while writing news articles is not a crime, wasting police time is.

Good point!

Notthissticky · 29/10/2021 01:19

Jeez, that letter just goes on and on... It all reads very much like "you spoke to people who said something we don't like, therefore your article is transphobic" They're also setting up multiple straw men: at no point is it suggested that this issue is widespread or that all transwomen are coercing lesbians into having sex with them. This is just so tedious...

Rhannion · 29/10/2021 02:08

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

'Do I have to read the article before I complain about it?' Telling.
Isn’t it just? 😂
NiceGerbil · 29/10/2021 02:32

Ran out of steam with the letter. I wonder who wrote it/ looked it over etc. Too long. Same points repeated over and over.

This part
'
The fact that the people cited in this article largely do not acknowledge that transgender women are women, by refering to them as men, should make it clear that they are not representative of the wider community of cisgender lesbians.'

Citation? Obv not a survey etc like the one they are criticising. I assume there's solid evidence for that statement. Given what the letter is about.

Enough4me · 29/10/2021 07:44

I guess it was hard for the lesbians to equate the men with women, when the men in question were coercing them into heterosexual sex.

Had the men been women, the issue would not have existed.

WTF475878237NC · 29/10/2021 09:24

That's what I can't get my head round at all. How can it possibly be transphophic to not want to have sex with a penis?

WTF475878237NC · 29/10/2021 09:24

*phobic

NiceGerbil · 29/10/2021 20:07

Reminded me of a song on never mind the buzzcocks years ago- detachable penis Grin

It's a whole man. Just totally different. Obv penis testicles. But that's just the obvious. Body shape, hips breasts waist etc. Smell. Strength. Jaw height hands feet. Etc etc.

I'm heterosexual. The idea that the only difference between having sex with a male and a female is the genitals is bizarre.

And again. 99.999% of the population know this. How so many think that the general population really don't think that... It's beyond me. I mean most are lying obv. They know full well.

Deliriumoftheendless · 29/10/2021 20:13

Ah, Detachable Penis by King Missile.

It’s funny how often I think of that song 😂

1Week · 29/10/2021 20:27

I know its been said over and over, but the extreme TRA are just spoilt children aren't they?
The self centredness of childhood, the creeping suspicion that you're only being humoured when Mummy says yes, but the uncontrollable rage when she says no. Constantly seeking attention and approval, fantasy and self righteousness all swirling together.
Childish emotions with adult appetites.

We keep talking about the generation gap here, but it's not that really, is it? It's the maturity gap.

NiceGerbil · 29/10/2021 20:36

@Deliriumoftheendless

Ah, Detachable Penis by King Missile.

It’s funny how often I think of that song 😂

Me too! Only know the vid clip they showed!

Must have been a formative part of my life or something 😂😂😂

NiceGerbil · 29/10/2021 20:37

1Week-

Sort of. Haven't loads of men always essentially felt/ behaved like this when it comes to what they want from us though?!

CreepingDeath · 29/10/2021 20:48

@WTF475878237NC

That's what I can't get my head round at all. How can it possibly be transphophic to not want to have sex with a penis?
Everything is transphobic according to them, so ridiculous. Still, more sunlight eh?
DdraigGoch · 30/10/2021 02:11

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

'Do I have to read the article before I complain about it?' Telling.
Has he left Scotland in a huff yet? Or was it just an empty threat?
thinkingaboutLangCleg · 30/10/2021 12:50

Thanks for this news, OP, and all who provided various links. Worth repeating There is a way to feedback anonymously to the BBC to show support in their decision to report the truth:
www.bbc.co.uk/contact/comments-feedback/#/Your%20comment

I’ve just sent my support to the BBC, including my name which is also an option.

Oh, the wonderful feeling of sunlight coming in at last.

SusannaRowan · 30/10/2021 15:43

I've sent positive feedback to the BBC. It was a well written article and I'm very glad they published it. The fact that there are people who are submitting complaints who haven't even read it, is horrifying.
The complaints are insane, it's like a group of men getting together and campaigning against women who talk about rape, claiming it is discriminating against men...oh waitHmm

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 31/10/2021 01:15

[quote Enough4me]There is a way to feedback anonymously to the BBC to show support in their decision to report the truth:
www.bbc.co.uk/contact/comments-feedback/#/Your%20comment[/quote]
Thanks. I just sent a 'good piece of journalism comment'. I had seen previous advice to do it as a complaint and then say 'not enough coverage' of these issues but didn't want to risk it being wrongly counted as being 'anti' this item.
So 16,000 people think lesbians should not be allowed to choose who they sleep with...really?

Enough4me · 31/10/2021 01:46

It would be great if the negative comments highlight the same limited message, i.e. shut up. While the positive messages are not only higher in volume but show a depth of response in the need and appreciation for free speech, particularly when marginalised groups face rape and coercion.

Hopefully the majority of the BBC staff will be in favour of reporting facts and giving them evidence that they represent a wider stance will help them to push SW out and report on the negative issues that arise from the, becoming more obvious by the week, ideological control processes.

ArcheryAnnie · 31/10/2021 01:08

It's amazing that the alleged "hate crime" is a report on the sexual coercion and rape, not the actual sexual coercion and rape of lesbians.

Do they never stop and listen to what comes out of their own mouths and think "hang on, that doesn't sound quite right"?

Enough4me · 31/10/2021 01:15

@archeryannie, but if they convince themselves that women can simply be an idea in a man's head, do they need to live in a fact based world or can all language become fluid to suit their narrative?

SammyScrounge · 31/10/2021 01:48

@Theunamedcat

It will be interesting to see which way the police jump on this one will they actually go after the BBC?
Might be good if they did. The trans movement would be exposed as ludicrous as well as dangerous in their desire to silence the whole country. In addition, the plight of young lesbians would be described over and over in court thus giving it more publicity. And of course any attempt to silence the media will bring reporters out in their hundreds searching for stories. But it won't come to that. There's no case to answer.I expect the BBC are already lining up new stories.
NiceGerbil · 31/10/2021 02:29

What I find totally bemusing. Is that pieces about... Could be a problem here's some first hand reports. Are bread and butter journalism.

It's totally normal. And v important that voices are heard.

I mean just. Everywhere. Individuals talking about. Experience of racism with police. High profile people bullying staff. Women being tortured in Chinese Uighar camps. Growing up in area with a lot of gang violence.

And etc etc I mean it's just standard.

Including loads of pieces about trans experiences.

OJ is vocal this piece outrageous. He's a journalist FFS!!

So is it that-

All reporting of this type needs to stop? Really???

Or

If a group doesn't like the piece then it should be withdrawn with apology? Again. Really ???

I mean how do they think this looks?!

donquixotedelamancha · 31/10/2021 09:07

OJ is vocal this piece outrageous. He's a journalist FFS!

I support OJ's right to identify as whatever he likes but I think cisjournalists would point out quite substantial differences between what they do and what he does.

Piapiano · 31/10/2021 12:41

What is a cisjournalist?

donquixotedelamancha · 31/10/2021 12:44

What is a cisjournalist?

Someone who is an actual journalist IRL, as opposed to the YouTuber Owen Jones who is a transjournalist.