BBC article has been reported to police as a "Hate Crime".

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That BBC article has been reported to the Met Police as a "Hate Crime". And it seems that others are now going to follow suit and perhaps even inundate the Met with this silly and vexatious claim.

Just when you think they cannot do anything more bonkers, they surprise you again.... and again.

@devildeepbluesea

God they really are disgusting. I just don't understand how they can do it and not be ashamed.

I note that gay men who don't fancy transmen don't seem to get the same vilification. I wonder why....

I think this might come down to the fact that there are a lot fewer women pretending to be men, than men pretending to be women.

Cisjournalists will cis and trans be stuck in front of all roles now?

@donquixotedelamancha

What is a cisjournalist?

Someone who is an actual journalist IRL, as opposed to the YouTuber Owen Jones who is a transjournalist.

I'm so confused.

I don't know, if cis means normal or genuine, does trans mean odd or fake?

I don't know, if cis means normal or genuine, does trans mean odd or fake?

Yes. PP referred to OJ as a journalist, he self IDs as a journalist but isn't one in any meaningful sense.

It's a (supposed to be witty but clearly failing miserably) play on the idea that identifying as a trans[whatever] immediately makes you that thing.

I'll get my coat....

Ah, I get it now and take your point.

It's in his head like the theory that it's possible to change sex.

I see. Cis means real and trans means fake (or wannabee)?

It's in his head like the theory that it's possible to change sex.

Indeed. In his head the YouTuber Owen Jones is a journalist, champion of the poor and saviour of women and trans people.

Look at the reaction to him cutting a line out of an interview with an LGB alliance woman to remove context of what she said.

And loads of responses calling him a liar and a twat

That's REAL journalism dontcha know!

Well I found irfunny @donquixotedelamancha

Well I found irfunny @donquixotedelamancha**

Ah well, at least someone did. It was a very niche joke for anywhere else but I thought it might land here. I should have remembered this is The Good Place and not the main board.

@donquixotedelamancha

What is a cisjournalist?

Someone who is an actual journalist IRL, as opposed to the YouTuber Owen Jones who is a transjournalist.

😂😂😂

I found it funny too

BBC holding out

BBC rejects complaints over article on trans women pressuring lesbians into sex

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ad1a27a0-3b56-11ec-a9ce-48a11f44f00d?shareToken=dff541ec4859deb7b8989280ab022054

Excellent news from BBC!

Those complaints didn't do TRAs any favours. Just more sunlight and nothing to refute the issue. Calling those women liars isn't a good look. What on earth would they lie for??? Claiming its 'transphobia' just looks more damning.

If they're not going to answer requests for interviews or say publicly that of course lesbians exclude transwomen, then the BBC article stands.

It would have been interesting to see what the public reaction would have been if the target of the BBC had been a different vulnerable minority group instead of transwomen.

Imagine the BBC wrote an article about how people from (insert name of a foreign country where people have darker skin) were criminals and terrible people making women unsafe in Britain etc etc.

If an article has a clear agenda and is setting out to villainise a group of people to try and entice others to hate them, then that is indeed hate. I don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least.

i don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least.

You didn't make it to the third post in this thread then?
No, there was no crime.
The target was rapists. If you think that applies to all transwomen, Margarita, that's on you.
Do you believe the women who have given their accounts in the bbc article?
I know you won't answer, so I don't know why I bother.

Margarita, have you really read the article? Did you notIce the word “ some” in the article? Did you notice the context in which the word was used?

If an article has a clear agenda and is setting out to villainise a group of people to try and entice others to hate them, then that is indeed hate. I don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least

But if some of that group of people are rapists - and the "clear agenda" of the article was to report on the rape of women by that those rapists - surely the whole fucking point is to feel hateful towards the rapists, for, you know, raping - which is an actual crime, and one for which most people would feel hateful about. Have you actually listened to yourself?

Perhaps the BBC shouldn't report on any crimes as it villainises the perpetrators.

If an article has a clear agenda and is setting out to villainise a group of people to try and entice others to hate them, then that is indeed hate. I don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least

And that's where we are. Recognising coercive men is 'villainising' them.

Proving the women's veracity, over and over.

The BBC will only be emboldened. They now know they're right.

@MargaritaPie

It would have been interesting to see what the public reaction would have been if the target of the BBC had been a different vulnerable minority group instead of transwomen.

Imagine the BBC wrote an article about how people from (insert name of a foreign country where people have darker skin) were criminals and terrible people making women unsafe in Britain etc etc.

If an article has a clear agenda and is setting out to villainise a group of people to try and entice others to hate them, then that is indeed hate. I don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least.

You mean like grooming gangs or county lines gangs? They are often from minority groups and infact their minority status protected them for years, decades in some areas.

If you understand the concept of "some of" as opposed to "all of" you can see how this minority of a minority can damage the whole group if others in their group don't have the courage to stand up to them and say not in my name.

@MargaritaPie

It would have been interesting to see what the public reaction would have been if the target of the BBC had been a different vulnerable minority group instead of transwomen.

Imagine the BBC wrote an article about how people from (insert name of a foreign country where people have darker skin) were criminals and terrible people making women unsafe in Britain etc etc.

If an article has a clear agenda and is setting out to villainise a group of people to try and entice others to hate them, then that is indeed hate. I don't know if it qualifies as "hate crime" but it's certainly hateful at least.

It was a big problem preventing anybody doing anything for the very, very many victims of the grooming gangs. For years nobody from schools to police to social services to the media would touch it, because the perpetrators were Pakistani men.

We should have learned by now that nothing good comes of holding any group up as a sacred cast who may not be called out when they rape.