Social taken my children

[FLICKFLICK89]

Probably posting wrong here first time user Lost my children for a second time due to mainly mental health there already on care order from previous different issues what are My chances of getting them bk as 2years been suffering and asking for.help but nothing was put in to place to help me till 3weeks b4 they where taken

Who have you asked for help? And what sort of help have you asked for?

I'm sorry you're going through this. Getting help can be difficult because services are so poor. I think the usual advice is to engage with social services and do whatever they say you need to do and prove to them that you are doing everything you can to improve your mental health.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. Are you able to share what it is you're struggling with in terms of mental health? Have you been to see your GP? X

I'm sorry you're going through this.
no matter what has happened or whether it's the best thing for the kids, it's heart breaking for you.

its especially hard if you have been asking for help.

what did they tell you that you needed to change/di/improve on to keep them?

is/are their Dad/s involved?

Had no contact with social services for over a month the crisis team are involved gp and mentle health this would b the second time they have moved my children to grandparents as there already on care order not seen them for a month don't no what am ment to be doing father and me are together no concerns with him but me as iv been to hospital so many time and had ambulance out as have long covid and health anxiety from it now am just wondering can I get them back for a second time am waiting on legal advice but don't no how am guna afford it

Let your children be. It's not normal for children to be removed and yours have been removed twice. There are clearly concerns with both you and the father. Let them be happy. Xxx

There not happy tho there just up the road and want to come home first concern was drinking that's why they where taken to start with that isn't the issue here no concern with father it's my mental health with they haven't done anything till last min just because am ill does not mean they shouldn't be with me the was happy here there is stuff in that report of the social worker that are lies and I can prove that that's why am waiting on legal advice I will not give up on my children just wanted some advice really on here while I wait

You need to get yourself better first before you even try to get them back.

Luckily your children are still within your family.

Is their father able to go and see them?

You've got to make this about the children

You've mentioned drinking and poor mental health needing hospital treatment several times

Let the children be safe with family and do everything you can to get yourself well
Take whatever help is going and ask for more
Comply with all they put in front of you as at the moment you cannot see the harm done to the children

They may be happy to be with you but that's because you are their mum and they love you , they are not focused on their physical, psychological needs being met to help them regulate life and grow into competent safe secure happy beings

This will be what is lacking of its normal for them to live in chaos , with a drunk or emotional parent who's often taken to hospital

Good luck OP You can do this 💐

This is actually what am going to do now the help has been given to me no contact at moment as they want to settle them in but after that we can have contact while grandparent presence but not heard no more off social worker after several emails from myself and other professional

It must be so hard but you've got to focus on what's best for them

What you up to today ?

The drinking was over 4years ago then we got them back and I get that it's not fair for th em to witness me being poorly or having going in hospital but there was no help put in til last min now there is am guna get myself well and try get them home thank u x

You can have a free solicitor if your kids are removed! There will have been letters from social care with details of local ones who can help you

You need to focus on getting yourself as healthy as possible. I’m sure that must be incredibly hard especially when you want to focus directly on how you get your children home, but you could have the best lawyers in the world working for you and it still wouldn’t be right for your children to come home until you are well.

Maybe the mental health charities like Mind might be able to support you. Think about the little steps you can take to get better.

I understand that and which I am I can't be there for them when am ill iv been asking for help for ages been gp ect now everyone wants to help me when it's to late but I will.get well again and I no its about
Them I really do

It's not too late Flick

You on the right track now , stay focused on getting well

Iv got mental health team crisis team and gp and stepping stones all trying to help me get well and back to myself I didn't ask 2 b I'll and I did ask for help for ages

Of course you didn't ask for this

You can ask for that to be put in your care plan - you recognise early warning signs of being unwell and not taken seriously so to avoid delayed treatment in future you want your triggers included in your case review care plans

Things like .. not eating or sleeping as well
Ruminating thoughts , more risky behaviours
isolating yourself , what ever it is you've been going through

Would you benefit from an inpatient stay ? Beds are scarce but worth asking if you'd consider that

Ok @FLICKFLICK89

So, steps;

Why do you think your children can't live with you?

No accusations, why do you think your children aren't living with you now?

Next step;

What do you think you could do better for your children?

Next step;

What do you think you could do better for you?

You are quite important in your own life.

Maybe you've not always centered yourself, and that's really important.

Did you ever matter? You have to matter before you can make your children matter.

There is crisis now, but how did you get here? That's really important to ask before you can think about having your children back. How did you get here?

Honestly. @FLICKFLICK89 how did you get here?

No judgement.

Iv asked for that but no its more health anxiety from having covid never suffered with it b4 in my life like or really mental health problems been diagnosed with long covid and opcial neuralgia also nerv pain ect so when I get pain in my chest head or anywhere I think the worst and can't pull myself out ov it
Like I said iv never been threw anything like this in my life its physical symptoms so it lands me in the hospital

Ok. So you have some health anxiety? Yes?

Where is dad in all this? You said you're together and there are no concerns with him - so if that's the case, why did the children need to be removed? Why can't he look after them?

They was guna come of the order before covid hit us all and everyone had to self isolation there not with me cause am ill and with me going hospital so many time suffering long covid and now health anxiety there needs and emotional needs have not been met by me and its probably damaging to see but if they would ov put all of the help in when asked I wouldn't have 2 keep going hospital but yes the fact of the matter
That it's damaging to them mum always in hospital but dad was main carer they were days I couldn't get out ov bed that I felt so ill am ashamed that I couldn't push myself harder

Because they saying he was dishonest and didn't email her when I went to the hospital that she needed to no everything

Chronic health anxiety am on medication that's just started now things are being put in place for support just wish it happened sooner