Seeing all these Feeling Low Posts makes me feel like screaming THAT'S LIFE

[RegularPoster]

I'm sorry

I don't really read these threads

I do know that depression is a real illness and requires medical help and I do not wish to denigrate those who are suffering in this way

I cannot help thinking that a lot of these posts stem from expecting more from life than there really is. Some people just seem to want to feel good all the time, and the things that are getting you down are JUST LIFE

I think a lot of you do need to pull your socks up and stop analysing things. just get on with your lives and make the best of it

God forbid you had something proper to worry about - like war, disease, famine

Don't seem to see many of the mothers from the SN board posting here nor those who I do see as having real problems to worry about.

Discuss...

sorry ... and enid

are my problems trivial?

(paranoid)

yes, but if someone starts a thread called
'Help! I stubbed my toe', am I allowed to post on it saying 'yes, and...?'

This person has put foward their opinion and has been personally insulted several times. That is what has made it a "nasty" thread.

I agree with Captain COD here , but will add a bit more of my own view.

The Mumsnet team was asked to consider setting up a thread for people who are suffering/have suffered with depression. They responded, which is great, but unfortunately I think the title "Feeling Low" is a sort of PR "sound bite" piece of terminology and it's inadequate for the reality of the illness depression.

Everyone has days where they "feel low". That is different to having depression or suspecting that you may be slipping into depression and need some advice from others who understand because they have had say, PND, clinical depression or other forms of the illness.

I'm not sure what the answer is or whether I am making sense here.

I do know that this is a subject close to my heart, having lost my Mum to suicide because her depression was not treated appropriately.

People die because of this illness. It needs to be taken seriously.

Most importantly, sometimes there is no obvious "trigger" for it, but somehow the chemical balances within the brain change which leads to depression. You do not need to have traumatic life events (like my Mum) to have depression. The socks that you need to "pull up" simply aren't there, and no love, nor money, nor cheerleading will help you find them. Hopefully, appropriate medical intervention can.

no they are not missdee, come to the bar and you can open your heart....wether chit chat or serious help needed, were all here

hercules - you are not overreacting, you are saying what you feel and if the original poster had worded her posts like you do yours I feel a lot of people wouldnt be so upset. I respect you for saying what you think in a constructive way

yes, feeling low is a cheesy and prob inappropriate title

I dont think there is anything wrong with moaning. I do it all the time.

I can though see why that would annoy some people.

she didn't say all trivial posts should be deleted, she was just getting pissed off with people moaning and if you never not one of you don't get pissed off with people moaning then you are lying. She was just being honest. It may be incredibly wrong but she is a bloody human being saying something real instead of the i am hiding behind my computer so i am going to get holier that thow. I get pissed off with my mum constantly, i don't want her to dissapear and never speak again, this is all so bloody extreme.

wow what a thread this was

I cant imagine anyone hasnt though "stop moaning" about someone else either.

Yeah but that's it ff - most of us, if we get pissed off with the moaning we just go and find another less irritating thread. We don't start a bloody thread about it and not even have the guts to give our real (virtual!) name.

Anyway, I'm off to see about Enid's toe.

Thing is you dont have to tell somebody to stop moaning on a website - you can just choose not to read.

Now stopping my mum moaning would be a lot harder

yes i heard she has stubbed it, we must do a collection

Just before I do leave.....

I believe in being straight up. So, we should have a thread entitled "depression" and another thread entitled "I'm on a downer today" or something similar.

Puff, beautifully worded post (I am so sorry about your mother) and I do agree but have to admit that it was me who came up with the suggestion to call it "Feeling Low." There was a thread discussing several possible options and that's one I put forward (pinched it from another parenting site actually!) You're right: "Feeling low" doesn't even begin to describe the horrendous illness that is depression but to call the topic "Depression" might put a lot of people off posting. I know I have read on here many times people saying "I don't think I'm depressed...but" Would those people post on a board that was called "Depression"? they may not be depressed but still be in need of support - or how they feel may be the start of depression.

"Feeling Low", trite though it is, does cover a lot more ground. Some people may post with problems that don't come under true depression - I think that's OK. It's up to everyone else to decide whether they have anything supportive to offer.

We can always find someone who is worse off than ourselves - sad to say that doesn't always help us to feel better.

I think RegularPoster should have posted under her (assume it's a her) regular name - the fact that they didn't shows how incendiary they knew ths post would be.

ahem. obsessive categorisation alert, Puff

RP hasn't even come back. Why is this the fastest growing thread in the history of mumsnet?

Know what you mean Marthamoo - it's really tricky isn't it, as you don't want to put people off who aren't sure how they are feeling.

well so to clarify:
the catorgory title should be changed so as not to trivalise the topic
there should be a trivial I am fed up thread
and tomorrow is another day
and thinking something is different from communicating it

But people have the freedom to start whatever thread they want, just as everyone says don't look at feeling low if you don't like it, don't look at this if you don't like it. All i am sick of with mn is the rules people keep craving for, everyone has differences of opinions and we all can't start screaming and shouting and getting upset when we don't like them. Or if we do expect people to be the same.

PPP - I am obsessed, but with a large glass of red wine that's sending seductive vibes my way. Gotta go .

no-one's saying they can't. But why start something you then choose not to be part of and leave it to everyone to second guess what you mean

Agree ff. That's the beauty of mumsnet. Lots of people with different opinions. If you dont want to hear views that may be opposite to your own then it's not the best place to be.

because she wanted to