This is a pointless life

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No enjoyment, no socialising, FB groups full of Coronaqueens telling people to "stay safe" and "it's ok to.find it hard, it is hard".
British government and the Daily Mail brigade utterly useless and now celebrating end of freedom of movement. Months more of not being able to do anything just getting more and more pissed off. My local community has turned into a vipers nest of curtain twitchers and sanctimonious busybodies. The longer this goes on the more life lost and the more pointless it seems carrying on when life is just an endless load of crap.

And you don't think from reading the OPs posts that there is a good chance that she is depressed

Depressed people can still help themselves, and many, many do, by seeking help and support. It's not unhelpful to suggest that a person take responsibility for themselves, even if they do have depression.

If you can't be kind or supportive, fuck off somewhere else and leave her alone. Nasty spiteful little bullies

OP has been very unpleasant to PPs, fairly consistently. And you're being pretty abusive yourself. Why does everybody except yourself and OP have to be kind and supportive?

@Ferrylights

It is shit OP, but It will pass and it will improve but not for a year at least. I don't think we will ever get back to any sort of normal but anything has to be better than what we have now. I work in mental health and my caseload has doubled - I'm not clinical but dealing with the tsunami of mental health issues in others is taking it's toll on me after nearly 20 years and I'm not sure I'm prepared for what's to come.

My mum is dying of cancer and I'm barely able to see my grandkids and I'm worried about what the future holds for the little ones.

The loss of travel isn't something that affects me as I haven't had a proper holiday in years due to caring for my dad who died earlier this year and now my mum.

I hope you start to find some joy somewhere OP, but that is down to you to try.

I don't agree with we will never go back to normal ... we have had pandemics before and life goes on

I feel for you though as a mental health nurse I imagine it is overloaded x

@southeastdweller

I really hope that none of the judgemental posters here work with people who have mental health issues, or have loved ones who're struggling.

Totally agree I can't believe it I am suffering too mental health is not something you can "switch off"

@Pyewhacket

I’ve spent Christmas Day trying to keep Covid patients alive. If all you have to bellyache about is being bored or how shit life is, well you need to walk a day in my shoes. And I’ve been doing this since March without a day off sick or any holiday. And guess what. I’m doing all again tomorrow and yes , I have three kids. Happy Christmas

Thank you for all you are doing and I understand your frustration but people are suffering mentally too through no faint of their own I have seen this and known suicides due to this .... but I do truly mean thank you for what you are going

@spiritedaway I'm not a nurse but I work across clinical/legal and social care mopping up the bits that's medication doesn't fix. It's the busiest I have been in my career and I'm only scratching the surface most days. I'm not unusual here - It's the norm in MH for all disciplines. I don't share your optimism that things will go back to normal, that horse has long since bolted

[quote Ferrylights]@spiritedaway I'm not a nurse but I work across clinical/legal and social care mopping up the bits that's medication doesn't fix. It's the busiest I have been in my career and I'm only scratching the surface most days. I'm not unusual here - It's the norm in MH for all disciplines. I don't share your optimism that things will go back to normal, that horse has long since bolted[/quote]
Bit things did after the Spanish flu,Asian flu etc have hope x

I think that 'going back to normal' isn't going to happen, if 'normal' refers to as what we had before. But going back to 'a normality' will happen, where we're not perpetually skipping from tier to tier, and can just get on with our lives without feeling that the sword of Damocles is hanging over us.

Things will be different, in some good ways and some bad. Not 'going back to normal' doesn't mean never being happy again.

Sorry OP and other downcasters but get a grip on thinking like this - it’s been a while but it’s not forever.
The vaccine is being rolled out. Yes It’s shit for everyone albeit to varying degrees. I can bet every single person has had some real low points - anxiety, worry, boredom, feelings of despair at being without loved ones. But there is nothing we can do about it but sit it out, knowing that things WILL get better over next few months once people are protected from this awful virus. Just glad my family all remain safe from this virus , know others who are losing friends or family to this this very minute.

Bullies don't deserve my respect or kindness. And no, not all depressed people can help themselves. Yes many do. And many people who use a wheelchair can walk a few metres. Does that mean they all can? Why don't you educate yourself before you go spouting shit about an illness you don't understand. She has clearly told you several times that you are making her feel worse and yet you continue to do it. You're a bully, plain and simple. So well done, you've made someone feel like shit on xmas day. Hope that's made your day. Pat yourself on the back and go away.

There has certainly been a surfeit of bullying on here recently as well as lots of helpful posts

@Eckhart

I think that 'going back to normal' isn't going to happen, if 'normal' refers to as what we had before. But going back to 'a normality' will happen, where we're not perpetually skipping from tier to tier, and can just get on with our lives without feeling that the sword of Damocles is hanging over us.

Things will be different, in some good ways and some bad. Not 'going back to normal' doesn't mean never being happy again.

Sorry don't agree !!!! It will go back to normal And it will be the people that ensure this ... it did after every other pandemic and will this one

There can be great comfort for people whose lives are not currently meeting their needs in knowing that they are not alone. Talking honestly can be what increases people's resilience. But there are some people who can't cope with people like the OP sharing how they are feeling and accuse them of wallowing, being bitter or showing a lack of resilience. We say it's OK to not be OK, but actually for many people's it's really not. I see that as problematic. Like OP if this was all life had to offer long term I'd not see it as worth it. I can hold the faith that this will improve but that does not make life enjoyable or fulfilling at the moment and I won't be pressurised into saying it is to make other people feel better.

Lightsontbut Well said. I absolutely agree.

Sorry OP. It was only in February that we were all being told to #BeKind. I've struggled with lockdown. I had major plans this year and along came lockdown. There have been days when I've felt like you. I've gone through some tragedies including losing a child. I've always dealt with them by seeing friends keeping busy and over always get through. That is resilience. Ignore people like Eckhart. It's natural to struggle with this situation

@Belepheron

It is shit. The idea that the government is doing ANY of this deliberately is fantastical. I loathe this government but there is no way any of their (crap) decisions are made to test our "compliance".

Frankly, a lot of people don't seem to have the inner reserves necessary to cope with a major downturn in the quality of life. And that's indicative of the shallow consumerism of the late 20th century. We don't all cope in the same way. Some people have more resilience than others and that's just a fact of life. Work on your resilience the best way you can, or collapse in a heap. Those are the choices. We have lived in the most incredibly fortunate and wonderful era and now it's less so. We are not as humans entitled to the life we want and sometimes life is misery and frustration. How you respond is up to you.

I agree too.

You’ve had some pretty unkind comments on here, OP.

Yes, you will get through it. Yes, it is shit for everyone.

But, bloody hell - OP is feeling really miserable and down. Can’t we just be kind? Especially at Christmas.

I’m sorry you’re feeling rotten, OP. It will get better. Maybe not as quickly as we’d like, but it will xxx

Of course we will go back to normal, what a load of undupported nonsense @eckhart. It will happen gradually but it will happen, then watch out for the roaring twenties!

Is it just me but sometimes when sad I need to dwell in it for while to come out the other side.
Its OK call a spade a spade a spade.
Whats wrong with the op having a honest rant once again I think its better for mental health to acknowledge your own feelings of sadness, anger, fear.
All this fake it to you make it.
Its ok not to be ok.
Winter i always find is harder shift my mood.
I don't know how someone has enough resilience reserves cope with all the shit.
Things I struggle with is im a planner who can't plan.
I feel like I lack control over many aspects of life.
I have anxiety about finances as feels like another lockdown is inevitable.
I worry about kids going to school I don't trust the dfe..
Miss my freinds even toddler groups
Cancelled Welsh holiday in July we meant be Devon in July but will see.
I think uncertainty is tough thing to deal with.
I dislike many of our politicians
I'm a realist i don't think 2021 be return to normal.

I try stay busy and postive when I can
Put on brave face for the kids
I hate baking.
We were in tier 2 for all of a week after mockdown and weeks in tier 3.
Glad I went and had pub lunch whilst Xmas shopping really lifted my mood.

I keep thinking has to get better cant get a whole lot worse.
We must be at the peak of shit by now.
Found the 1st lockdown easier as had job that I lost in the summer.
Found home schooling the kids hard work.
Feels like all I do is food shop cook clean meal plan and repeat plus packed lunches x15 per week so boring and mountains of laundry.

[quote Eckhart]@chaosrabbitland

why cant she sodding well complain about it without getting made to feel how ungrateful she is about life

She is entitled to her feelings, and to post about them. Just as everybody else is entitled to their feelings and entitle to post them. I was asking OP a question. Is that alright with you? Or are you the only one who's allowed to 'sodding well' speak?[/quote]
no you werent just asking her a question , you were being a sarcastic tool and well you know it , and no if all you are capable of is being a grown up version of a spitefull bullying teenager in high school than no its not alright with me and no i dont think you shouldnt be allowed to speak if thats all you are fucking capable of , its not about just about agreeing with somebody for the sake of it , its about having empathy for other people and their suffering , but its obvious that you and these other arses on here taking pleasure in making her feel more shit get off on being judgemental and telling her to pull her socks up , its a miracle op hasnt been told to think of the starving children in africa and count her blessings for ffs

I agree OP and I hate the minimising of what is contributing to significant MH problems in some people. It's almost as if you're not allowed to say you're struggling.

I'm in a secure job so have actually saved money this year due to no holidays and eating out and I'm an introvert but even I am fed up.

SAGE and the government lying about the figures for lockdown in november was the last straw for me. I just don't get why people continue to trust the government after that.

My DC struggling big time

I agree with you OP. It is the relentlessness of having any joy sucked out of life. We cannot plan anything and the constant open/close/open/close of businesses makes me feel so angry and I don’t even own a business. Unfortunately, time will show that cure is much worse than the disease. There will be poverty, high unemployment, national mental health crisis etc. There is no doubt that the handling of the pandemic has been dire from the start. Sacrificing the entire population to save the very old, is not something I agree with. The restrictions should be based on age, maybe we would not be in this mess now. But they are again not the ones to pay for this economic mess, again, it will be the young affected, for decades...

Hmmm .. I am on the fence with this.

I am also pretty fed up with all the whining. It's like being trapped in a nation of toddlers flailing around on the supermarket floor because mummy has told them that they can't just put sweets in the trolley...

There is no other option than to buckle down and get on with it. A bit more backbone is required. Of course people are pissed off, unhappy or anxious about it. It still won't make any difference.

These restrictions are required in order to reduce the number of deaths. 70+k deaths is a shocking tally . Feeling angry and depressed about the situation doesn't come close in comparison to all those grieving the death of a loved one. We really do have to dig deep and get on with it.

It's not forever. Warmer weather and a vaccine will be with us in a couple of months.

@chaosrabbitland

no if all you are capable of is being a grown up version of a spitefull bullying teenager in high school than no its not alright with me and no i dont think you shouldnt be allowed to speak if thats all you are fucking capable of

Why not play back your own words and ask yourself if you're really modelling the behaviours you're demanding from @Eckhart.

Maybe dial down the aggression?

I'm pissed off big time , I'm in Scotland so as odd today we're all in teir 4 for god knows when and schools are not going back after Christmas!
There is no need for the whole of scotland to be teir 4 (excludes islands I believe) as figures dropping .
What the hell i'm I meant to do with a 14 year old and 3 year old in this bloody weather whilst I still have to work as a nurse and my dh is also a keyworker?
I can't keep up this cheery fucking act

And I've have had the vaccine what's the point if my only fun is going food shopping and no doubt having to q again