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My reaction to the ManchesterBomb is wrong

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Belfastbap · 23/05/2017 08:44

I want to scream now you know what it feels like I know that's wrong. I know I'm bad for thinking it but I'm so angry at all those who excused terrorism in Northern Ireland and aren't excusing this. How can they love the double standards.

Help me. Please. I know this is wrong.

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BastardGoDarkly · 23/05/2017 08:46

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roarfeckingroar · 23/05/2017 08:49

I can see why you feel that way, when the leader of the opposition refuses to condemn IRA terrorism and has shared a stage with - and indeed called "friends" - terrorist leaders from Hamas and Hezbollah

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 23/05/2017 08:53

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DioneTheDiabolist · 23/05/2017 08:57

Yeah, because the people of Manchester had no idea what terrorism was like until last night.Hmm

Educate yourself.

picklemepopcorn · 23/05/2017 08:57

I don't think it's wrong, as such. It's a trauma reaction. A corner of your mind that screams out your rage and pain. When you feel that your pain was ignored, minimised, dismissed then that will take a long time, if ever, to heal. It's a terrible cost of the truth and reconciliation process.

Do you access counselling of any kind?

Bluntness100 · 23/05/2017 08:57

Surely you can be angry at terrorism in Northern Ireland, without thinking "ha, now it's your turn". People died. Children, adults, families. Try to have some compassion. The people who are devastated are not those who excused terrorism. these were innocents.

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Belfastbap · 23/05/2017 08:59

Please notice. This is in mental health. I am in bits because of my reaction. I am barely coping. Remembering what it felt like to have a family member dead in a bomb.

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bruffian · 23/05/2017 09:00

It did cross my mind this morning that when I was my dds age, the IRA bombs were everywhere.

Strange that people love JC and yet he has refused to condemn those attacks.

Bromeliad · 23/05/2017 09:00

Google IRA Manchester. I

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Belfastbap · 23/05/2017 09:04

I am so so sorry for anyone who is feeling g what we felt. The people I am angry with are all those who excused the bombs when they happened here. Terrorist apology is always wrong.

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bruffian · 23/05/2017 09:06

Belfastbap. Today must be horrendous for you. I'm very sorry for your loss.

DioneTheDiabolist · 23/05/2017 09:09

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Belfastbap · 23/05/2017 09:09

I am NOT thinking ha it's your turn. Not at all. I have also not made any kind of political point.

What I'm thinking is how do those who excused the terrorism in Northern Ireland justify excusing it when it's a different terrorist.

I hope those who excused violence and dead children in Northern Ireland rethink their position. I hope they can see that any kind of any sort of terrorism is always always wrong and cannot ever been used or justified.

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picklemepopcorn · 23/05/2017 09:09

It's ok to be angry. It's ok to still be angry. I'm sure you would never wish your pain on someone else.

I'm sure everyone on this post has had an unworthy thought they are ashamed by.

Thoughts happen. Working to change those thoughts and manage them is what helps us balance our emotions and survive trauma.

Hang in there OP.

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Belfastbap · 23/05/2017 09:09

I am not trolling. And I have posted this deliberately in mental health.

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Eve · 23/05/2017 09:11

belfast - I too grew up in NI and lived with daily terror, explosions, killings etc.. I know exactly where you are coming from.

There is a growing anount of research that is looking at the impact of living in such an environment IN NI for years and what it has done to the mental health of those who grew up surrounded by this but trying to live normal lives. The impact those years have had are seriously underestimated and the trauma is still being felt years and years later.

...it seems to have been ignored/ forgotten/ overlooked that thousands died in NI during the troubles, many of them innocent ... and it was a source of immense hurt for the people of NI that most events barely merited a mention on the UK news. No mass outpouring of grief for them...and a real lack of commendation from politicians.

I have no answers as to how you fee, only that I understand.

As to the others on this thread - bog off.... you have no idea what it is like to live your life constantly having to be aware of threat... if you cant be bother to try and understand the reason behind the OPs post then don't bother commenting.

cowgirlsareforever · 23/05/2017 09:11

The North West of England was a pretty scary place to live when the IRA were at the height. Sadly, it is again.

Erinys · 23/05/2017 09:12

Taking a punt purely on your user name OP but if you've been traumatised by terrorism before, I think this sort of reaction is probably normal. It's easier to focus on the random rather than the detail. My MiL is probably with you, her father was murdered by the IRA and despite him dying a long time ago, her family was ripped apart by that one act of violence. The ripples are still being felt today, over 40 years later. She gets angry that the men responsible have gained responsibility/status/immunity whilst current terrorists get condemned across the board because to her, it's as if her Dad doesn't matter.

I grew up thinking DF looking under the car for bombs and our school bus being searched for explosives was normal. I absolutely hate the fact that my normal might end up being my ds's. I know what it was like when I finally twigged as a child that some people might want to kill my DF purely because of what he did for a living and no child should have to live with that fear.

Terrorism should be condemned across the board. We don't get to weigh other people's lives or say what is worse because it's not about the politicians but the dead (and their families who if my MiL is anything to go by will be suffering for rest of their lives).

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picklemepopcorn · 23/05/2017 09:14

I don't think this is going to help you today, OP. Is there someone in RL you can have a rant with, who will understand?

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Belfastbap · 23/05/2017 09:14

I am so so so sorry for any family that have lost anyone. Those are not the people I am angry with. I am not trolling. How can anyone think I'm going ha now it's you. That is not what I said in my post at all.

I am in bits today I can't stop shaking I know what it's like I don't want anyone to go through this ever.

It's the people who were excusing the terrorist action in Northern Ireland I want to scream at. Not the families. I am so angry that no one is excusing this yet the deaths here had apologists. How dare they have done that. My poor nanny my poor dad my family. Were excused and had our pain apologisted

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 23/05/2017 09:15

I think some need to remember that this is in MH.

Maudlinmaud · 23/05/2017 09:17

Belfast I'm from the same neck of the woods as you. I feel horror at what has happened in Manchester. The things I have seen as child growing up here have left me with a greater empathy for similar situations. I don't want to scream at people now you know what it feels like and that's the truth. Do you have ptsd as a result of your experiences, that would be understandable.

bruffian · 23/05/2017 09:18

Wow some of these posts are nasty. This is a person who is clearly struggling and who has been through a significant trauma. Shame on you.

ephemeralfairy · 23/05/2017 09:19

I get you OP. But I don't think you'll get any help on here today, I think people will misunderstand and attack you and make you feel worse. Can you talk to someone IRL?
I see your pain and loss and anger. I don't minimise it. RIP your family member Flowers