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thread in which the Mentally Normal sustain a stream of fascinating chat

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Mitchy1nge · 19/01/2015 09:00

and die of being cold

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Mitchy1nge · 20/01/2015 16:59

oooh tell me your take on The Omelette

I had a daring thought earlier, in which I divide the constituent parts of The Omelette between the little silicon heart shaped moulds and bake it in the oven and make it last two days enjoy it

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SnowyMouse · 20/01/2015 17:27

Sleeting here, and v chilly, think I need to turn up the heating.

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 17:48

Getting shit done, woohoo. Am a veritable powerhouse of tedious admin/emailing/sorting out headphone repair/joining waiting lists/getting repeat requests in to GP/being told nothing is allowed and have to schedule a call with GP because am not trusted not to overdose on metformin just in case I fancied death by lactic acidosis/zombie runs/doing new abs exercises/making food/eating food/inquiring with pharmacist about interactions between MAOIs and 5-HTP (answer: he doesn't know)/going to Sainsbury's and doing random shopping/transferring massive amounts of money to DP for some reason/researching how to illegally buy melatonin on the internet.

Sorry I know it's crass to talk about feeling good at a time when so many of our lovely mentally normal selves are feeling low

but is such a FUCKING RELIEF to feel competent once in a while Grin

I have the mysterious bullet tuna for dinner.

CaulkheadUpNorth · 20/01/2015 17:51

Ah but it's a sort of hope isn't it. I can go Oh, this must get better, it happened for Enpo, all will be ok in the future etc.
obviously more complicated but you know what I mean. Grin

It's snowing here, but my windows are too high to see it properly. (I'm
Not in prison, just have high windows, I am short)

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 17:54

I guess so; am at least proof it is possible to go from suicidally depressed to minimally competent with the sole therapeutic intervention of essentially jamming a huge biochemical spanner in my neurochemical works Grin

still

no

snow

Sad


Mitchy1nge · 20/01/2015 17:55

oh I have FUCK LOADS of melatonin somewhere, are you having trouble sleeping?

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Mitchy1nge · 20/01/2015 17:56

is the metformin helping you to lose weight?

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Enpoid · 20/01/2015 17:58

Delayed

But have dragged it back for the last two nights (though last night didn't sleep much at ALL but at least woke up in plenty of time to get to DP's dental thing at ridiculous o'clock this morning.

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 18:02

I don't know if the met helped at all but I did lose most of my weight while taking it at a higher dose IYSWIM. I only take a teeny dose now in order to keep my entitlement to free prescriptions and weightlods has pretty much entirely stalled since beginning antidepressants. Have no idea what is causally related and can only correlate Confused It's all a mystery Grin Now if I can only get the psychiatrist to prescribe some sort of stimulant and maybe agomelatine all shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well.

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 18:16

Julian of Norwich is fascinating and I massively respect her and the content of her hallucinations in a time when the content of most peoples brains would've been far more retributional and unpleasant.

CaulkheadUpNorth · 20/01/2015 18:23

She is fab. as is Catherine of Sienna. The boss is/was big on historical women and we spent ages looking at them agh different group.
I wonder what my hallucinations would be?

It's stopped snowing and I've just eaten a digestive biscuit which had been in the tin with some stollen (why? Who does that?!). So two disappointments in one go (don't like stollen-tasting things.)

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 18:25

More worthy of fame than that Joan of Arc experience anyway.

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 18:25

Bet it was soggy too.

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 18:27

Tho of course Joan was a peasant which makes her rise more impressive I suppose.

CaulkheadUpNorth · 20/01/2015 18:28

Soft, so I thought it might be ok. They aren't my digestives, belong to the academic but it isn't her stollen. It is all Very confusing and Very disappointing.

CaulkheadUpNorth · 20/01/2015 18:30

I think we're meant to like Joan more due to peasent-ness and due to her becoming a man.

It's started snowing very lightly again. I imagine you are thrilled by my weather reporting tonight.

CaulkheadUpNorth · 20/01/2015 18:31

millie if you are about, I am saving you the hassle of looking out of your windows and reporting the weather. I'm like a female Michael Fish.

Mentalpsychiatrist · 20/01/2015 18:33

I have a book all about Joan of Arc but I haven't started it yet.

Good luck with agomelatine Enpo. We're not allowed prescribe it as NICE say no.

Mitchy Omelette will involve spinach, asparagus, peas, feta cheese and anything else green I find in the fridge.

Mentalpsychiatrist · 20/01/2015 18:37

Enpo, don't take 5htp with phenelzine unless you want to run the risk of serotonin syndrome.

SnowyMouse · 20/01/2015 18:40

I had a friend who tried agomelatine, it was a couple of years back though.

Mentalpsychiatrist · 20/01/2015 18:41

I don't mind not being able to prescribe agomelatine, the clinical trial data is patchy and far from convincing.

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 18:48

I was worried serotonin syndrome might be a risk. Bugger.

I was't aware doctors really took much notice of NICE - have been prescribed pregabalin for anxiety and lamotrigine to augment phenelzine in depression and always seem to get prescribed weird shit. I'm not set on agomelatine but need to do something about sleep/wake cycle. Need more drugs, not sure what.

How did your friend get on Snowy?

Mentalpsychiatrist · 20/01/2015 18:50

I take no notice of NICE but agomelatine is not listed in our formulary.

Enpoid · 20/01/2015 18:53

Wikipedia says When combined with antidepressants of the MAOI or SSRI class, high dose 5-HTP can cause acute serotonin syndrome in rats.
In humans 5-HTP has never been clinically associated with serotonin syndrome. Due to the rate-limiting nature of the decarboxylase enzyme which converts 5-HTP into serotonin, the risk of serotonin syndrome with monoamine oxidase inhibitors is thought to be quite low unless both MAOIs and 5-HTP are taken in large quantities.

Which is interesting.

Really bloody expensive though.

Millie2013 · 20/01/2015 18:54

Thank you for the weather report, caulk :) you have saved me from getting off my ass and looking out of the window
DD is playing quietly and I'm reluctant to disturb her and cause a bedtime drama