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Being Mentally Normal: The Theory and The Actuality

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Mitchy1nge · 10/01/2015 19:30

we must be on part 11 or something by now?

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CaulkheadUpNorth · 18/01/2015 20:26

I love tom yum soup. Don't think I could cope with a super hot one though.

It's candles yoghurt and toast here.

Millie2013 · 18/01/2015 20:41

I want a candle, but mine are all scented.
Therapist is a psychoanalyst, but therapy is mentalisation based, with a bit of everything else chucked in, so integrative, I guess!
I am quite honest with her and tell her when I'm annoyed/bored but we seem to be going around in circles. I have a history of quitting therapy, but have stuck with this for 3.5 years

Mentalpsychiatrist · 18/01/2015 20:43

Oooh, tom yum soup, lovely. I like it super hot.

CaulkheadUpNorth · 18/01/2015 20:44

Scented are the best!
I have no therapy wisdom other than I have found the least planned I am beforehand, the best our sessions go.

Millie2013 · 18/01/2015 20:44

^true dat

Millie2013 · 18/01/2015 20:45

I forgot, I keep gnawing on DDs chalk, I think I'm deficient in everything....

Enpoid · 18/01/2015 20:47

Ah I see. The wikipedia page on it seems to suggest it can be quite helpful. Do you usually get on with he therapist?

Mitchy1nge · 18/01/2015 20:52

it depresses me slightly a bit that am beyond the reach of therapy, at least where nhs therapy is concerned :(

have been in a good mood all day though and have had energy again, the unnatural fatigue has gone - on other hand managed to evade breakfast, lunch and snacks apart from my post-run choc milk and cottage cheese Confused everyone is entitled to a day off?

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Enpoid · 18/01/2015 20:56

Everyone has wobbly days, I guess?

I keep being told how long the waiting lists are for psychological services, so no idea if it will happen for me either. Did they really say you can't have therapy because it won't help you Mitchy?

CaulkheadUpNorth · 18/01/2015 21:01

I'm eating lunch and dinner now, so it's probably not too late for the omelette?

Millie2013 · 18/01/2015 21:05

MBT is fab, but hard work and I do normally get on with my therapist, but yesterday, she was in an arsey mood and I wasn't in a good place

Mitchy1nge · 18/01/2015 21:08

I've had some sweets and some pasta and my bedtime snack (yoghurt) a total of 1400 which is actually plenty, it's just that I ran 10 miles so MFP (synced with my garmin watch) thinks my net intake is only 600

it's what you do most of the time that counts isn't it, and most of the time recently I have been a sort of dustbin for all the resolutioners' unwanted carbs - it has helped a lot already I think, today's run felt absolutely effortless

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Mitchy1nge · 18/01/2015 21:13

oh I had CBT a long time ago, once a week for several months working on relapse signatures and that sort of thing, I found it helpful but it did end on a sour note and I was hospitalised so I must have relapsed Grin

but was assessed, dunno, a couple of years ago and it was just awful, was quite desperate for help but found it impossible to talk about and she didn't have the skills or the time to help me so pretty much said I was beyond the reach of the therapeutic grasp or some such shit! think I might have been treating myself ever since by restricting my food and exercising and everything that goes with that

this makes me feel v sorry for myself actually :(

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Mitchy1nge · 18/01/2015 21:15

#2 had MBT

she threw a chair at her therapist but seems to be doing ok now Hmm

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CaulkheadUpNorth · 18/01/2015 21:16

Oh lovely, hugs.

Private therapy is definitely the way forward, and finding the right person. It sounds like there hasn't been the right connection between you and the therapist before more than you being unreachable.

CaulkheadUpNorth · 18/01/2015 21:18

I have integrative psychotherapy, she is the 6th person I have seen. She is brilliant, although I did not cope when she had time off after having her baby and when she didn't visit me in hospital. She knows this though as we have to talk about everything

Enpoid · 18/01/2015 21:20

I do remember you saying about it before but I'm amazed by how blunt and unhelpful she was.

Silly cow. Angry

Millie2013 · 18/01/2015 21:28

I've never thrown a chair at her, maybe I ought to try it :D
Therapy is only as good as the therspist and if the relationship isn't right, the therapy won't work very well, so never be afraid of trying a few different ones :)

Mitchy1nge · 18/01/2015 21:31

the whole thing was really horrible, she wanted to focus very narrowly on a specific event and I am avoidant wanted to not talk about it start with the bigger picture

my cpn wasn't impressed with her either, the formulation was awful and I have it somewhere and it's the only really hurtful thing any of these people have ever said - and that includes the original shock, indignation and rage at the 'manic depressive' thing - so maybe the truth hurts?

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Millie2013 · 18/01/2015 21:33

If it made you feel bad, it was wrong :( But please don't let it put you off, there are some lovely people out there

Enpoid · 18/01/2015 21:40

Logical fallacy there, surely, Mitchy - A hurt, and A was true, B hurt, therefore B was true too? Nah, I think it's more likely that it hurt because it was bollocks and she was a twat.

Enpoid · 18/01/2015 21:42

Will we hit 1000 again tonight?

Mitchy1nge · 18/01/2015 21:47

easily

we are lucky to achieve both impressive quantity and quality of our chat :)

the moment has sort of passed now anyway, I just want to run this marathon and enjoy my horses and try not to give my children any more mental disorders

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Mitchy1nge · 18/01/2015 21:48

the therapy moment that is

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Enpoid · 18/01/2015 21:48

I want a CPN Envy