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EnpoTree · 25/10/2014 17:47

Basically I have to take bloody diazepam three times a day and be visited by HTT every day and even then the nurse reckons it's 50/50 if I'll need to go into hospital or not. This has gone too far. I'm absobloodylutely sodding fine and visited the drop-in as I was worried I was going to become not-fine and wanted to know how to stop DP worrying unnecessarily after having spoken to CMHT as I was referred from GP as I wanted to avoid becoming depressed and how to maintain my current good humour and general sparkling and effervescent nature. The lesson apparently being that being responsible and proactive with your mental health gets you accused of poor insight and told to take drugs on pain of hospital admission.

She's really fucking scared me. I will not go into hospital. So to avoid it I have to swallow pills that make me slow and stupid and sleepy even though I am totally happy with the way I am now and it's everyone else who doesn't like it. Maybe its everyone else who needs bloody medicating.

I hate this so much. I know its a bad idea to get involved in MH services. So why do I ever go back?

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 22:42

Like anxiety.

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Thumbscrewswitch · 01/11/2014 22:57

Enpo - I'm up again, further away than the ME, down in the Antipodes.

You are not doing speed-like things to your head. You (your ego, your persona, your mind) are not in control of what is happening - your chemicals are out of whack. It's a biochemical glitch, fixable by adding in more chemicals - less so by "you" because "you" are not the problem. :)

EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:04

Like I'm currently feeling the calmest I've felt since late morning, much calmer than this afternoon, when I was pacing around in town and shouting at people and jittery and so bloody irritable and scared of some random guy in a shop. So now I'm calm in comparison but have a tense feeling in all my muscles, a full and tight coiled spring turbine sensation in my chest, my hands feel slightly sweaty, and my face and limbs are a little warm, slight tinglrs rushing through me every few seconds, and though I've been sitting still for quite a while (with some effort) my pulse is 70, which is fast for me now - I would expect 55 when watching TV. This is too physical to be in my head; I don't feel anxious so its not that, so I'm wondering about a) hyperthyroidism or b) some kind of environmental poisoning. Which is a bit ridiculous. But definitely could be a hormonal thing. Maybe I could get that checked. Feels like too much adrenaline or cortisol or something. And maybe some oxytocin or something Grin I wish I knew endocrinology

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:05

Hello antipodean Thumb! Have crossposted with you! Sorry.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:09

Im not sure I believe in a biochemical model for mood disorders though... And what ifbthis is personality disorder? Though TBF last time I mentioned that to a nurse whonwas at my house she scoffed and just said, "THIS isn't Personality disorder."

But I could get on board with an endocrine logical ezplanation especially with having diabetes...

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:11

Endocrinological.

Also my BP is high, especially systolic - consistently over 100 even when relaxed (normal for me is 80/45 to 95/65)

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:14

Perhaps I should be posting in general health.

Although... Thumb, do you have some personal experience if these kinds of physical symptoms happening from mental illness? If so id be really ininterested to hear it.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:25

And add me to the list of people who want to know if disco flips are anything like disco biscuits.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:29

Does everyone think Auntie Poads ?

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:32

Like Hermy Own. Or SerFOHculs. Or Auntie Gohn. Or Eppy Tome.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:33

My whole family talks like this all the time. For fun. It's kind of odd.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:36

All foreignnwords are deliberately pronounced in the wrong language of origin, words are pluralised using the wrong endings from the wrong languages as a joke, spoonerisms and malapropisms abound - poor DP took quite a while to get used to it. And I assumed all families had these evolved private ways of of speaking, but his family doesn't appear to do it at all Confused

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:38

Wimblewimblewimble.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:44

Shittlefuck I just lost an enormous Post! It was about my family.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:46

The Capitalizor Strikes Again.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:51

DP's family say what they mean and never make inappropriate sweary jokes Sad

The first couple of times DP's parents net me I was on a downswing and quite socially anxious and quality et and I think they didn't mind me. The most recent time I was no longer a sixteen year old was older and surer and they didn't appear to like my actual personality Grin I like flamboyantly intellectual people.

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EnpoTree · 01/11/2014 23:52

Quiet!

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EnpoTree · 02/11/2014 00:00

Holy crap! I just looked up an eequivalence chart for benzos and the clonazepam tablets the psych gave me are equivalent (more or less) to TWICE the diazepam dosage I was on!

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EnpoTree · 02/11/2014 00:06

I kind of assumed it was a milder, gentler dose, as I was supposed to take it three times a day on top of zopiclone at night Blush and also it didn't do much except block my energy path.

They're not shy with their benzos, are they?

Anyone want 8mg clonazepam?! (I kid, I kid, I would never distribute controlled medicines)

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EnpoTree · 02/11/2014 00:13

It's like they want to make addicts Confused

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Thumbscrewswitch · 02/11/2014 00:13

No, I don't personally have any experience of the sort of thing you are dealing with; I have a friend who had some similar behaviours, but that doesn't give me enough insight into what you are going through, nor every other person with his particular condition. However. There are some similar behaviours (he was a bit of a heavy marijuana smoker and had a near breakdown at one point - thought he was having a heart attack! He wasn't - but these aren't the behaviour patterns I'm reminded of in your posts)

If you prefer me not to post because I have no personal experience, just let me know, I promise I won't be offended! :)

But - the biochemical model - some of it, I believe, has good grounds. I'm quite attached to this theory in particular overactive phospholipase A2 in schizophrenia, which isn't in the slightest bit relevant to you but does, IMO, give some back-up to the idea that there is/can be a biochemical basis to some mental health disorders.

EnpoTree · 02/11/2014 00:15

something about me makes people want to give me benzos. I've heard ofpeople visiting OOH when desperately anxious and suicidal and getting one 2mg tablet - I visited OOH GPs a couple of months ago when a bit up and got 14x5mg diazepam Hmm

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EnpoTree · 02/11/2014 00:15

No please do post it's really interesting!

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EnpoTree · 02/11/2014 00:20

I actually told that OOH GP repeatedly that I wasn't anxious, too, but he wrote it on the letter he sent to my GP anyway, along with "pressure of speech", which I now know is code Hmm
BTW I'm never normally a drug user; have just used cannabis a couple or three times with my friend "Mavis" since getting back in touch with her recently. Normally I don't even drink or smoke or ANYTHING. Okay, I use caffeine. But nothing else.

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EnpoTree · 02/11/2014 00:23

Oh schizophrenia is an interesting one - lots of fascinating things going on in the brains of people with schizophrenia that look all kinds of interesting on scans (statistically) but the causality seems very very muddy.

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