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that light at the end of the tunnel isnt a train....stay on track!

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ThatVikRinA22 · 02/05/2013 23:31

thought we had better have a new one - old one nearly full. Think this is our 4th thread now....

linky to old one here

so, here we go....title a little more optimistic than i feel but im sure i will get back on track soon.....not doing bad particularly, just feeling a bit consumed with things....work is so intense. id forgotten.

anyway....nuff of me. over to you guys....
hope everyone manages to find us to say "hi"....welcome old and new.

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LEMisdisappointed · 21/05/2013 19:56

Thanks basset, some of that is true but not all. What really pisses me off is that she knows im ill. Has never even acknowledged it in fronnt off me, but told her sister how ill i am, so she gets sympathy but has never asked if if feel ok! ,

TirAnna · 21/05/2013 20:43

Just sticking my nose in to say hi - been reading for a while but not been brave enough to post yet Blush You all sound lovely though!

SnowyMouse · 21/05/2013 20:45

Hi and welcome, TirAnna

LEMisdisappointed · 21/05/2013 20:55

Hi TirAnna - how are you? Dont be shy - we are a friendly bunch and this is a supportive place

SnowyMouse · 21/05/2013 20:58

Good night, early night for me today.

ColouringInQueen · 21/05/2013 21:06

Hi tirAnna and welcome. I lurked for a long time before plucking up courage to post but it really is a v helpful, friendly thread. Thanks hoochy and helles re book feedback, sounds like a good investment.

Hello to everyone. ed what did you have for dinner on the end?!

Hugs to ua.

Went round to a friends after school with the kids which was nice, and got fed too Smile. Two beers later and I feel quite mellow...

ColouringInQueen · 21/05/2013 21:06

Night snowy x

EdwiniasRevenge · 21/05/2013 23:22

Evening all.

Welcome tirAnna

Been much better since waking. Still very claggy on the chest though.

For tea we had...drumroll....chicken tikka masala. Made with one of those shove it all in a bag things. I have to say I was quite impressed. A bit watery but tasty and tender.

In bed now. Waves to everyone...

TirAnna · 21/05/2013 23:34

One of my housemates did pilau rice from a Schwartz packet today, 'twas very tasty Smile

I'm good thanks LEM - had my first exam of this cycle today and it went well (organic chemistry, which is the BEST), and also met the person who's hopefully going to be my project supervisor next year and he was lovely. Am I right in thinking you're a fellow biologist? Probably a fair bit more advanced than me though!

EdwiniasRevenge · 21/05/2013 23:41

Yay! Another scientist.....a biologist no less....I am biologist myself.

Hi5s tirAnna

Laying down is rubbish. My lungs hurt. I might need to go and sleep on the sofa. Its what I normally do when I have a chesty cough. But this is the first time I've needed to since I've been a single parent and I'm worried that dcs will panic if they get up in the night and I'm not in my bed...dunno what to do. I'm coughing my guts up laying down. Even with 3 pillows. ..

ThatVikRinA22 · 21/05/2013 23:46

i feel like im slightly not keeping up with events on the thread so i do apologise.

im not doing well tonight.
ds (aspie DS....) has given up on uni. all he had to do was get 2 assignments in, his dissertation in, and get to exams.

he has just stopped short of the finish line. assignments unfinished, dissertation unfisnishe and he just text me to say he missed an exam today.

what the fuck more am i to do with him? really?
what a total waste of time and money.
he says he spoke to his boss (he works part time) and he will take him on full time - well whoopee do - it will be on min wage when he is worth much much more for what he can do.
he is a bloody computer programmer - who will now be on 6quid an hour ffs.
and i am so pissed off i just cant speak to him.
i cant have him living back here for any length of time. he makes me ill. he has no conscience. no ability to see things from another point of view. no empathy,

and now no prospects. he bloody hates working for this guy because he pays peanuts and expects the earth.

i do not understand my son at all. i never will. i have done all i can do. i arranged extensions for him, again and again and again. i phoned the disability teams.
he just cannot be arsed.
i cant do it for him and so he will need to live with the consequences but let him moan at me just once and i will be guilty of walloping him.....

if he thinks he is just coming home to be babied and looked after he has another bloody think coming.
i would never see him endure hardship, but now he has to face reality. reality is that if you chuck your degree down the pan at 11th hour then you sit and do a dead end job and you bloody well do not moan about it.
you support yourself.
because ive done it for 21 years and ive had enough!

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ThatVikRinA22 · 21/05/2013 23:47

i had not smoked today.
im having one now. im so wound up. just one mind.

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TirAnna · 21/05/2013 23:51

I had a month long chest infection earlier this year and it was utterly rubbish, you have my sympathies Sad Is there any way you can pile the pillows up against the headboard and sleep (sort of) sitting up? I've heard honey and lemon tea with a whiskey shot works too, never tried it though! Grin

TirAnna · 21/05/2013 23:52

X-post, that was to Ed

TirAnna · 22/05/2013 00:03

Vicar Sad I have no useful advice for you but that sounds awful, didn't want to read and run Flowers Been in a similar (albeit less extreme) position with a friend but it must be so much harder as a parent Sad

ThatVikRinA22 · 22/05/2013 00:54

thank you tiranna and welcome to the thread. hope you find it a source of help and support.
i know i do!

im pissed off but resigned. there is nothing more i can do. i know that. i have moved heaven and earth to get him through this last year - but in the end it was down to him to do the graft.

he will have to live with the consequences of that.

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EdwiniasRevenge · 22/05/2013 08:28

Oh vicar....huge hugs.

You know that his degree isn't your responsibility. You just have to believe it.

Now I am going to put a helles hat on....stay away from the cigs. That is within your responsibility and control. You will regret going back to that. Come on. I know you are concerned about your alcohol intake but a small glass of wine is better than a cig.

Puts cuddly ed hat back on. Huge hugs flying your way. They've been disinfected so you shouldn't get my grollies...I like that word :)

I'm still suffering. I have dtd2 off school with it too so I can't stay in bed alllllll day. Got to sort my sewing machine out though as going to help a friend with some stuff later...

TirAnna · 22/05/2013 09:57

Vicar, Ed's right, it's not your responsibility - it's so hard to feel that way when you love someone and know what's best for them but it's true

You mentioned that your son's a programmer, so presumably there's a chance he'll be able to get a decent job even without a degree, as long as he can show he's got the ability - don't give up hope yet Smile

Ed ooh, what are you sewing? I keep wanting to bring my machine up here and get practising but it's so annoying to carry on the train...

I was having a rubbish morning earlier - the citalopram insomnia's really getting me down Sad With sleeping tablets I'm getting 5-6 hours' sleep a night instead of 2-3, which is bearable, but it's still making me feel like I'm stuck in some kind of weird dream sometimes. I've woken up a bit now though so I'm starting to feel more normal Smile

LEMisdisappointed · 22/05/2013 10:03

Vicar exasperated on your behalf regarding your son, but you know what - i dont think he is in that bad a position. He has a job, i don't know what it is doing but he has one. Like you say, he is capable and I think that means alot more than a degree. I am not sure degrees are all they cracked up to be! (and ive got two Hmm for all the good they do me!!!) I think that with time, he will do fine, get pissed off with the job he is doing and use his experience, which lets face it is what employers are looking for, and move on to something else. It isn't your responsibility anymore and he has to make his own way, and that will be better for him! I know its hard - i had to watch my DD1 do similar. She is now in a min wage job, but she is having a great time and when she (grows the feck up!) matures, she will be able to use the experience to move on to better things. It is frustrating, shes very capable, but shes happy (i hope) and thats all I can really ask for.

Ed I wonder if you need to see a doctor for your chest and get some antibiotics? There is one thing i wont ever be doing, and thats sewing, although i did have to fix dds back pack this morning, thats as far as it goes, too fiddly and i get frustrated.

Trianna - so many scientists on this thread - well, you don't have to be mad to be a scientist................. Grin I have to say, im impressed about the organic chemistry - it was my absolute worst subject, all those curly arrows and bunny rabbit ears! Are you in the second year? What will your project be in? I really enjoyed mine, i did fruit fly stuff. Supervisor was barking mad - hes a professor at cambrige now, or oxford - still mad!

CiQ let me know how you get on with the book - it looked quite good on amazon, i am tempted although its not on kindle Hmm I am just starting counselling and its not CBT, i didn't find the CBT helped me (because i dont like being told what to do - that doesn't help much does it!) but maybe it was just the counsellor, I never really felt comfortable with him an felt he was ticking boxes.

I am like a cat on a hot tin roof today, DD is on her school trip today and i was in tears last night because in my usual anxiety induced way i coudlnt bring myself to offer help to the school and go, so this mornig DD was upset because she wanted me to go - i suppose that is a good thing that she likes to be with me, but DP says that i should make sure i dont smother her independence, which is true. I can already see anxiety traits in her :( I will be glad when they are back, i worry that she will get lost, i worry about the coach, oh, i worry about EVERYTHING, its exhausting.

LEMisdisappointed · 22/05/2013 10:06

What sleeping tablets are you taking Trianna? I was given Zopiclone when i was not sleeping, OMG, i dont know whether to think they were brilliant or the work of satan! I would go to sleep, but then wake up after about 8 hours and it would be like i hadn't been to sleep, but i wasn't tired, it jusst didnt feel like normal sleep. Fortunately i don't seem to get the insomnia on the citalopram, how long have you been taking them?

TirAnna · 22/05/2013 10:28

LEM only Nytol at the moment - I've been prescribed nitrazepam (similar to zopiclone) but I'm wary of taking it as I've tried zopiclone before (not on prescription, got it off a friend Blush) and found I slept perfectly and felt happy and relaxed all of the next day... which is great as a one off, but I'm worried about tolerance/addiction if I take it longer term. I've been on the citalopram for less than two weeks so I'm hoping this will wear off by itself soon.

I love organic chemistry, but I think I'm the only person I know who does Grin I'm good at curly arrows, never heard of bunny ears before though Confused My project will be on herpes viruses hopefully, if my exams go well, otherwise molecular plant biology. Either way it should be good!

TirAnna · 22/05/2013 10:29

How long did you take zopiclone for by the way? Did you find it stopped working after a while?

LEMisdisappointed · 22/05/2013 10:36

I think the bunny rabbit ears represent the free electrons or spaces on an oxygen molecule - if i remember rightly - our organic chemistry teacher was somewhat oldschool! I enjoyed it at college but hated it once i got to university. Herpes virus project sounds interesting (sigh - i miss science :( ) But yes, whatever project you do will be interesting, I ended up doing a PhD in the field my final year project was in so you never know........... ooh, you have got me thinking about bloody viruses now and my project, once a scientist.............

I only took the zopiclone for about a week - i have some leftover but thankfully haven't had any trouble sleeping. I wasn't taking the citalopram when i was taking the zopiclone. If you have only been on the citalopram for a few weeks then hopefully the side effects will wear off soon. I am not sure but i seem to remember reading on the packet that you shouldnt take nytol with SSRIs, i think thats the herbal one though - might be worth checking. I think one of them is an antihistamine and that one is ok.

Is it the exam stress that has made you poorly?

SnowyMouse · 22/05/2013 10:41

((((( Vicar )))))

TirAnna · 22/05/2013 11:06

LEM I think that's the way it's going to go for me too - I can't decide between viruses and plants for postgrad, so I expect my final year project will tip the balance. Did you leave the field right after your PhD?

You're not supposed to take the herbal Nytol with SSRIs - I tried anyway because I was really desperate and it had no adverse effects, but on the other hand it made fuck all difference to my sleep so there were no positive effects either Grin I'm taking the antihistamine one now and it's working ok, but I'm only taking half the recommended dose. It's not exam stress, I'm actually ok this time round (unlike the Christmas exams when I was an absolute wreck...)

Oh another thing, has anyone had counselling, and how did you find it? I'm supposed to be starting in a couple of weeks and was thinking it would be really helpful, but a friend described the sessions she's been having and they sound kind of odd Hmm She's doing all these slightly experimental techniques and says they're really helpful, but I think I'd get really frustrated and sceptical if anyone tried them on me - call me old fashioned but I'd rather just sit there and talk about everything...

Right, I'd better actually go off and revise for a bit now or there won't even be a third year to worry about! Wink