I have been sectioned.

[lazyhazydaisy]

I have just got access to the internet. I am much less petrified than I was at first but definitely 0 out of ten. I have a tribunal and if that fails I think I will be here until July. I feel as though I am living in a nightmare. I have never felt so alone.

The only thing that I could suggest if anyone wanted to help would be to highlight the police brutality towards many many patients suffering, either from Alzheimers or mental illness or anything else. Especially use of handcuffs which are not necessary. And to avoid damage to property, eg breaking both door of a terraced house with no access out of the back. Also not offering the kidnap victim the chance to put on a pair of shoes and socks and a jumper and a coat in freezing weather.

I see the situation as more akin to John McCarthy being kidnapped in Beirut, except he knew what was happening and had years of after support. I am still not sure what suicide 101 is. Will Mumsnet trace my ISP and kidnap me? If so, the key is in the door and the vet's address is pinned to the right side of the kitchen doorway.

Think you are ok and safe on the isp score :) how are you doing daisy and do you have any plans for today?

Jolly considerate of you to leave directions for your kidnappers I realise this shows you're trying to limit the amount of damage done if you're sectioned again, and how imminent you feel that threat to be. I hope the idiots leave you in peace long enough for you to start feeling a little bit safer - and to get your house fixed.

101 is the induction class in American study courses. Nobody's posted one here, as far as I know, and you don't need it anyway.

You're doing a fantastic job of getting your facts together, Daisy. Once again you're setting an example for me ... so I'm going to get off Mumsnet and Do Stuff for a bit. It's sunny, so amble outdoors when you can face getting dressed. Eat! [bossy]

Would a night in a hotel help towards feeling better?
I'd be happy to contribute if you'd accept it daisy

There are some nice people on here :)

There are some nice people on here :)

I was going to follow Garlic ' advise today but I have retired to bed with a vaiim supplied by a (different alcatraz but fellow survivor) and some alcholol. If anyone ele wants to supply any avice of that nature, please spend 4 months in solitary confinement. I can clean up the house ok if I obey the flylday rules, but I cannot take that level of insolent cruelty. i will book the bg plumber and central heating people tomorrow.

The comment from Reality has floored me.

Garlic and all others who have gone through it, esp the one who knows my location, I thank you. I am now going to drift into welcome unconsciousness.

The key is in the door if that means anything. I am waiting for replies to my MP etc.

I will try and do some fly lady stuff tomorrow but after the reality comment I can only hope for some uncondciousness.

If they ever take me back to Alcatrax I will neither speak nor eat. I have made it quite clear that I will not end my iife until I have put my affairs in order and that will take ages.

I have no contact with any humans.

Garlic There have been 2 suicides of people who I have known there so far but I am expecting Miranda to go in the next two weeks,

If anyone wants to help, contact Woman's Hour or Claudia Hammond or (I think) Laurie Taylor. Or follow Aesop's links, which I have not done yet. It is not just me, it is full of desperate people.

i am now going to embrace unconsciousness. Any ideas apart from Woman's Hour. I was feeling fairly positive in a flylady sense until I read the comment from realit.

Aesop, when I wake up I will digest all of what you posted. I'd like to do it justice but I have just knocked myself out.

I know about ACAS but they say that you must put all of your complaints in the first draft and I am not sure where to begin.

Please do report not Reality's post because it will be useful to me when I get round to sueing. And illustrating the opinioin of the person on the Clapham omnibus.

I have just two word in Italian:
Fica and Topa. Any Itaian speakers?

Or BenGoldacre of the Guardian on the suicide after incarcertion.
Garlic Isn't it a joy to 'evacuate' without being observed? The joy!

My room 101 is rats, Hence the query
*Garic8, you may not feel lucky but at least you had insurane
[SMILE]

and lots of this

take what is useful from the thread and try to ignore that which is not. easy to say i know but it will not be good to take on board negatives. the fact that you are talking about plumbers etc is excellent. you may not see it but there are little glimpses of good happening here. keep talking, ignore negatives, lets get you living in better conditions and then tackle the rest with you. you are not alone. easy on the valium and booze please :p

Dolly, I was thinking the same but the other way round. I would put someone up if they would even survey the damage. I could pay them. I dealth with the filer but this world of brushes is beyone me.

I will ring BG tomorrow and try not to cancel this time. I am covered for water and gas, unless elFica has cancelled, as he hs cancelle all else.

I am very antidrugs. They would be fine if it were not for addiction, etc.
This was a one of after I showed Alistarir what Reality posted.

Tomorow I will fly.

You can't blame reality for your actions. I actually agree with her, and have been reporting this thread onm a daily basis.

I would advise anyone who is planning their suicide to seek help immediately. Well people do not plan how they are going to die. Well people do not get their estates in order so they can commit suicide. You have children. You have a family. The posters who are stroking youtr hair and cursing the nasty doctors (and yes, it sounds horrific) will, I hope, explain to your children their posts on this thread.

Hiding now. I wish you well.

You can't blame reality for your actions. I actually agree with her, and have been reporting this thread onm a daily basis.

I would advise anyone who is planning their suicide to seek help immediately. Well people do not plan how they are going to die. Well people do not get their estates in order so they can commit suicide. You have children. You have a family. The posters who are stroking youtr hair and cursing the nasty doctors (and yes, it sounds horrific) will, I hope, explain to your children their posts on this thread.

Hiding now. I wish you well.

Daisy I can't help with that as I don't know anyone who could do a survey or even building work, but you could do with a break from all this. Just a night away, to gather your strength, have a long soak in a bath, that sort of thing.

Pm me if you'd like to take me up on my offer

Hi Daisy - I (and no doubt other posters) would be happy to check over your draft complaint if that would be helpful.

I'm not sure what the more, er, forthright posters on this thread are trying to achieve and I am really sorry that they have made you feel worse when you were actually getting some useful things done re the house.

Hope it's still sunny tomorrow and that you feel better.

people plan suicide for all manner of reasons. trauma is one. illness is another. daisy is clear and has said many times that she is not planning suicide for a couple of years as she has so much to sort. i am hoping that she continues to progress on getting the house sorted etc with support from some of us here. i am also hoping that eventually she will have herself back to a good place where suicide is not a consideration. for some people planning their suicide actually helps them to feel in control when they are out of control. that may sound bizarre to you but it is very common. suicide is not the focus here. getting daisy's house straight and her dignity back is. that is what we should be focusing on. i am actually v impressed that daisy has managed to talk to mind, contact sane, and is considering what to do to sort the house even though she is living without basic facilities. that shows a pretty strong woman.

daisy has also said that she has nobody around her and no contact so this thread is a sounding board and a place to splurge. better she splurges here than is left alone with those feelings and self harms or something worse.

that is my take on it anyway. please can we focus on helping this lady instead of armchair analysing and telling her she is mental.

daisy for when you wake up in brief...

1/ ignore the negatives and try not to focus on them here. there are a core f people on here who are here with you on this. keep your focus ok?
2/ read the positives that you have already achieved and keep going with them in small steps
3/ eat :) basic self nurture like eating and drinking will help to keep you as well as possible physically
4/ come back and let us know how you are doing??

:)

I have reported the OPs last post. If someone is mentally well it is not fair for them to lash out at others in the way she has done at reality .

This forum is not a specialist mental health provision and therefore people should be free to post without fearing that they are driving others to "unconsciousness" or to take Valium washed down with booze.

The OP needs more support than this board can give.

Woking, your username has only posted on two boards in the past six months - in AIBU and on this thread, which is on the mental health board. I've heard what you've said about your own experiences, which have understandably been distressing, and can see that you wanted your perspective to help OP recover from hers. It seems not to be the right time, or the right message, for Daisy to appreciate your wisdom just now so it would be reasonable to accept that.

Your stated fear of 'driving' Daisy to oblivion looks very like an attempt at emotional blackmail on a poster who's in a darker place than you are atm. No-one's making you read this thread, much less post on it. You don't have to make the thread go away because you don't like it. You can just hide it. Better still, perhaps, hide the whole board. Lots of other MNers do.

people plan suicide for all manner of reasons. trauma is one. illness is another. do you not see the problem with that statement? People who are well do not plan suicides. Whether the cause is trauma or existing mental health issues, the end result is the same. When you have flu you don't worry about who gave it you, you worry about treating it. The op'sd post to reality was horrible. Its not reality's fault she is in this situation. Her post to woking was horrible too. Hairstrokers and tea-pourers are well and good, but the op needs help that mn can't give. I am worried about lurkers who use this board for support. This thread is second on a google search of "I have been sectioned" (incidentally, almost all the other results were unfairly admitted too) that worries me.