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Insomnia friends; bye bye 2010 the year of bad sleep, hello 2011 the year of good sleep!

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BeckyBendyLegs · 30/12/2010 10:41

How about this then everyone?

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BeckyBendyLegs · 08/01/2011 10:49
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orangeflutie · 08/01/2011 14:43

Oh GetDown that's really good news:) I'm really pleased for you x

I didn't post yesterday as everything was a bit raw. I was expecting to feel sad yesterday but found yesterday worse than previous years:( I won't go on too much but today I'm still struggling with a gloomy mood.

I didn't want to get out of bed this morning as I went to bed a bit later last night and then woke up a few times.

We also have friends coming over later this afternoon and it probably would've been best to leave it for another weekend, but too late now. I need to try and get myself out of the gloom. I've been horrible today, really snappy and irritable and I don't want to be.

I hope everyone else is OK.

madmouse · 08/01/2011 17:46

Sending you a big big hug Orangeflutie xxx

BeckyBendyLegs · 08/01/2011 18:02

Orangeflutie big hug from me too xxxx

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frikadela · 08/01/2011 19:51

Getdownyouwillfall Congrats and as my mum says Fear is good!
I had a scare a couple of weeks ago, thank god it was only that. Bad enough I ruin one little persons life nevermind two Grin

Hey odetothewestwing I too am a newbie, Its nice to be amongst fellow insomniacs.
Also glad to hear that you share my feelings re: Paul Mckenna, My mum but me the CD for xmas but I cannot stand the man so will never use it.

I had a word with myself on Tuesday night saying that I had to sleep or I wouldnt buy me any more chocolate. It didnt work and I went back on my promise and bought myself a mars bar Grin Have only myself to blame!

BeckyBendyLegs · 08/01/2011 20:20

For what it's worth I'm not exactly 'oooh oooh Paul McKenna phwoor' but his CD has helped me hugely once I got past the voice issue. There are other hypnosis CDs you can buy. I have another one by some guy with a very strong Essex accent - it just made me giggle! I have another by a woman that I haven't used but my mum, who is actually a retired hypnotherapist, swears by them.

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frikadela · 09/01/2011 04:28

Not sure if I could benfit from hypnotherapy type of things. Am always too aware of someone trying to influence me. Anyhoo, am just battling on and hoping that the longer shifts at work will knacker me out and help me sleep.

Doesnt seem to be working so far as you can see by the time on this post Grin

GetDownYouWillFall · 09/01/2011 19:15

Sorry for dropping my news and running!

Been busy the last couple of days. Sleep has not been great, very patchy but am getting by.

Am trying not to let the panic concern start rising that the next 9 months may need to be medication free. Just take each day at a time as they say.

Hope you are all ok.

frikadela sorry to hear you are struggling with sleep. Even if you don't use the Paul Mckenna CD the actual book is excellent and contains lots of useful tips. I found the game you can play when you can't sleep really useful - you just describe everything you are feeling, hearing, experiencing to yourself in your head with a really slow monotonous voice. Takes practise but it does work.

frikadela · 09/01/2011 22:03

Thanks for the advice Getdownyouwillfall I will deffo give it a go.

I think my main problem is that I've suffered for so long with it (10 years nowSad) and I've tried so many things that I always have doubts about self help type of things.

I've got a massive care conference at work tomorrow and am absolutely bricking it. Ive convinced my mum to let DD to sleep in her room for tonight and am taking one of my emergency zopiclones, I know its bad to have some on standby but havent taken one in over a year and since my job is on the line depending on the outcome of this conference I think this classes as an emergency.

Anyway I hope everyone has a good night.

BeckyBendyLegs · 10/01/2011 08:05

GetDown I don't think you will need medication. Trust your body - it will make you sleep!

Frikadela good luck today. Don't worry about taking a zopiclone.

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GetDownYouWillFall · 10/01/2011 09:11

Frikadela I have a supply of emergency zopiclone too. I think most of us on here do actually!

Nothing to be ashamed about, as long as we use them responsibly and sparingly they are fine.

Hope your conference goes ok today.

kizzie · 10/01/2011 11:02

Get down Smile Grin x

GetDownYouWillFall · 10/01/2011 12:28

thanks kizzie Smile How are you doing>?

orangeflutie · 10/01/2011 13:22

Thanks everyone for the support:)

I'm in a better mood today. I had a nice Saturday evening despite my stressing. A lot of laughter which was what I needed. We then met the same friends (all nursing hangovers) for lunch at Brighton Marina the next day. So in the end a lovely weekend.

Frikadela hope today goes ok and you sleep well tonight.

I had a bit of a restless night last night, despite going to bed late the night before. I keep waking up atm needing my inhaler but I'm fine during the day which is weird. Perhaps the air in our bedroom is too dry?

GetDown hope your sleep improves.

madmouse hope you're ok.

frikadela · 10/01/2011 13:43

Sneaky message from work. Conference went ace, had nothing but glowing reviews from all involved about how much ive brought my unit back up to standard. Grin

Nowt better than being told your doing a good job!

Glad im not the only one with an emergency stash... Rather have em and not need them than need em and not have em. Turns out I didnt need one last night, was out like a light withpout it!

frikadela · 10/01/2011 17:41

orangeflutie your probably right about the dry air, my ex had asthma and he was always very breathless in bed and not for fun reasons
Grin

Once I stopped having the central heating on sky high it seemed to get better. Shame tho cos I hate the pillock!

BeckyBendyLegs · 11/01/2011 07:13

Boo! How is everyone? Frikadela that's fantastic news about your conference and about sleeping the night before - go you!

I'm back to sleeping but tossing and turning and feeling tired the next day type nights. I can live with those though.

Feel tired this morning zzzz phone meeting with my boss today, which always makes me a bit nervous because I can't predict whether DS3 will be having his nap or not when she phones as his naps are a bit all over the place at the mo. He's sort of ready for one big mid-day nap now but sometimes still has two.

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GetDownYouWillFall · 11/01/2011 10:43

Arrghh. I am really struggling Sad Have had nearly a week of bad nights now, and my daily mantra of ?tonight will be better? is starting to wane. Sad

Night before last was pretty bad, but had an ok day yesterday so tried not to think about it. By the evening I was really shattered so thought hurrah will definitely sleep. Then last night was horrific! Still awake till flipping 4am 4AM!!! WHY?! Then up again at 6 Sad Have struggled into work but feeling so awful. The nausea is much worse when so tired too.

lelarose · 11/01/2011 11:11

hi am lurking on this thread right now as getting very little sleep due to masnaging baby on my own, and lots of stress- never was a good sleeper anyway, years and years of insomnia.

Does anyone have any tips how to cope during the day on very little sleep? how do you find the energy to cope with stress when you are beyond exhausted?

getdown the news that you are going to have another baby is an inspiration to me- so happy for you x

BeckyBendyLegs · 11/01/2011 13:07

GetDown oh you poor, poor thing. Do you think it is becauase you know you can't really take anything, and that is stressing you and keeping you awake? It is almost like you are creating the situation you fear the most - which is what I do. Did you try Mr McK? I really don't know anything about what you can take in pregnancy but is there anything you can try? I really don't know. It might be that in the next few days the exhaustion of pregnancy takes over and you will sleep again. I know with me that nothing would have kept me awake in the early months of pregnancy. I used to conk out at 9pm every night (and wake up early at 5am but that's another issue!).

Lelarose so good to see you here! I don't know what to say really. I've managed to get through looking after three children on night's of no sleep or less than two hours. I don't know how, I guess you just do because you have no choice. I guess I coped by just trying as best I could to see the positive in anything I could - and crying a lot! I find crying good therapy though.

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orangeflutie · 11/01/2011 16:26

Lelarose I'm not sure what to say either. I have three dds and remember surviving on very little sleep and it was really hard at times. Is there anyone who could look after your baby when you're really tired?

madmouse · 11/01/2011 16:46

Getdown I really do not believe that your famous 1/8th of a mirtazapine tablet will do any harm in pregnancy...

GetDownYouWillFall · 11/01/2011 20:37

that's good madmouse as I've just taken one Blush Really need to sleep tonight. How are you doing are you ok>?

Lela hi there love, nice to see you here you are very welcome Smile

You are doing so so well. It's really hard in the early months and I remember feelings of "I just cannot cope" and it's hard to say how you survive on so little sleep, but somehow you just do.. the months go by and before too long you get into a routine and the baby starts sleeping better. It feels like an eternity at the time, but looking back those days go quickly.

Thanks so much for what you said re. me. I don't feel like much of an inspiration! Much of the time I feel so weak. But I do know that if I can survive it once, I can do so again, and I believe I will be in a better position to fight it if I start to get PND because of all I've learnt. And DD is so lovely, I've just realised how much I want another Smile Maybe one day you will be in that place too.

thanks becky I didn't try mr mc.k last night because I just had that horrible anxiety that I was somehow admitting that I wasn't sleeping. But I will try and use the CD tonight I think. Hope you are ok. I wish I could conk out at 9pm at the moment. Feel like my body really really needs to, but my mind just won't let me.

How is everyone else? frik? arcadia how are things at your work?

GetDownYouWillFall · 11/01/2011 20:38

And orangeflutie... (sorry didnl;t mean to miss you out Smile)

madmouse · 11/01/2011 23:30

I hope you're fast asleep by now Getdown and anyone else who's in bed. I'm just back from drinks in a lovely country pub with a good friend so will go to bed in a minute.

Doing ok apart from sleep - St Johnswort has kicked back in so clearly still needed it.

Was badly shocked Sunday night when I discovered ds had a 38C temp and I totally totally lost it, sobbing, feeling sick, unable to sit still, panicked, shaking, feeling weird in my muscles. His brief hospital stint has really messed things up again because a simple temp doesn't do that to me normally!!! Typically by 11.30 he was sweating profusely, temp down to 36.6, I checked him all night Hmm he was cool and right as rain the next day and totaly back to bouncy self today. Badly shaken by my reaction. Hope it doesn't last.

Anyway - hope everyone is doing ok. Hi Lela good to see you on here and remember I've been posting with you from the beginning and you have come such a long way, never forget how much progress you have made even though day to day is hard x