Insomnia friends; bye bye 2010 the year of bad sleep, hello 2011 the year of good sleep!

[BeckyBendyLegs]

How about this then everyone?

Agghh! I can see teeth just under his bottom gum. Think he might get both bottom ones at the same time. Hope they come right through soon, he seems a bit low, poor thing.

Boo! I am here, just busy with work. We had DS1's parents' evening last night: he is a star (and a total geek)! DS2 on Monday (school messed up by losing my request form for a time slot for DS2 so they couldn't fit us in last night).

Holly glad you are sleeping better :)

GetDown sounds like you are doing so well. I loved being pregnant (esp that lovely warm feeling you get from thinking about the hugely important job you are doing growing a new person). I'm not broody, really, I'm not. Well, maybe a tiny bit.

Glad to hear you are sleeping better holly. Maybe the tryptophan is helping. My MIL (she's american) also gave me some stuff from the US - it was melatonin. Don't think it's licensed for sleep in this country, but it did seem to help me for a while. I wasn't sure if it was just psychological, but TBH I didn't care, as long as I was getting some sleep!!

Thanks the bump is coming on nicely, a definite "round" shape now, and my belly button has popped out already!! I thought I felt a few flutters yesterday and earlier today, but at 14 weeks surely that is too early? Just felt like a kind of slight pushing feeling. Don't think it was my bowels!!

Sorry that DS is starting teething, it can be difficult, but actually it passed without much drama with DD so don't necessarily get in a panic and fear the worst - it most probably will be fine.

becky I had a feeling you were manic busy with work! Glad to hear your boys are making yuo proud - that is lovely to hear! Before I had DD I used to squirm when parents when on about their kids, but I can see now I will be exactly the same about her!! So proud of her already. She is so conscientious!

Are you broody then??! I take it this is just a feeling and you are not going to act on it!

I'm still here too - sleep restless rather than bad and with very few early morning wakenings.

Holly keep going x

Getdown melatonin is licensed here to be used under medical supervision to regulate sleep in children, particularly with autism.

Becky get you doing so well x
Would love to meet up in the Easter hols but may not brave the Science Museum again, it was heaving in half term and lots of ds's fave things were not working or not accessible - and it's really expensive. But would definitely would come to Birmingham just to see you!

Hello everyone,

DS threw up all his dinner just after i'd got him bathed, dressed and ready for bed. Oh dear.

Getdown My friend, Julie, who had her second baby just before I had DS said she felt the flutterings very early on second time, so you might be feeling those first tiny movements. I felt DS very early too but I was still carrying his twin at that point so he was a bit squashed which is why I probably felt him.
Thank you the support re teething. Juile also said that her first baby was OK with teething so i'm feeling a lot better now.

Becky As I am a geek myself I applaud your DS for being one too.

Madmouse Glad your sleep isn't bad but hope the restlessness improves.

Teeth update: They're nearly through! I can actually feel them under his gums and can just about see them. Tim and I now pondering how we are going to brush his teeth.

Was asleep by 10:30pm, a first for me for a long time! Then DH to be came to bed at 11:10 and woke me up Managed to get back to sleep by then woke at 4 feelign rubbish with the start of a cold and just dozed until I had to get up.

I really like this tryptophan!

getdown - I think lots of people have flutterings early a 2nd baby. How exciting! .

Madmouse - i read on one of the threads that you are going away for a few days. Hope you have a lovely time x

getdown I felt movement at 17 weeks with my first so it's totally possible to feel it now with No2

thanks kizzie - going abroad to stay with my dad and stepmum for a few days and see friends. Still need to pack most things, but it's not much to take with us as ds has his own bed there and highchair, toys etc.

I'm getting stressed now though - last time they were here I plucked up the courage to tell my dad and stepmum about the abuse. We haven't spoken of it since but it may come up now we will spend a few evenings in the same room. And it feels quite sensitive atm due to new memories popping up. Also things I need to know about my mum but again it's sensitive. So will need to see!

But it will be good to see them all.

Hope you're all ok (ish)

How are things Holly?

Hi all,

Madmouse Things are ok, i've had a really lovely weekend with DS and DH to be.

Believe me I really know what you mean about feeling stressed about being around your family since they found out about the abuse. I only told my mum because I found out my dad was living with a women who was fostering children. I knew I had to act because he might abuse one of her kids and I would never have forgiven myself. I still find things a bit difficult with my mum (and everyone else but mainly mum). She still hasn't come to terms with it and blames herself for not stopping my dad. The problem is I have really tried to move on but everytime something comes up, as he is on the run I still have contact with the police and I sometimes get threatening letters from him, she goes on and on about how hard it is for her and when will it be over. She always seems to forget that I was the person who was actually abused and that she is making me feel guilty by constantly being depressed and going on about it. I have told here over and over again that I don't blame her, (deep down I do a little bit though if i'm honest). I have tried to get her to go a therapy group but she wont and she wont see a doctor about depression. We get on really well most of the time but sometimes things can be tough. We're actually going through a really bad patch now. I found out that i've had an abnormal smear test and I told her because I was scared and needed to talk. She said "When will this end? I just feel its one thign after another with you" and then went in the kitchen and burst into tears. I can't understand her. She has an amazing life and a beautiful grandson, still she needs to deal with her issues.

There is support out there for your family if they feel they need it. I think the most important thing is to keep a clear head, not easy I know, if they ask you questions and to make it clear what you can or can't talk about. If you feel too sensitive at the moment then it might be best to tell them that its not a good time for you to talk about it, if they ask you. I still haven't told my mum half of it and DH to be only knows a few things even though i've told him more than i've told my mum.

I think you been really brave telling them in the first place. I know that must have been really difficult for you. I really hope it all goes well. I'll be thinking of you.

Hope you and DS have some fun too!

Wake up everyone!!!

It's gone quiet on here hasn't it! I'm sleeping pretty well these days tho last night I woke up in the night and thought 'what if I can't go back to sleep?' even tho I always do, and I did.
Dr has advised me to not try and come off the sominex/nytol and low dose of amitriptyline yet.
We're off on our first family hol week after next, to a farm in Devon, really looking forward to getting away.
Hope everyone is well x

Hi Becky and Arcadia and everyone else!

I love this tryptophan, I think its amazing! I've now been sleeping well for over a week, yippee! Oh dear probably shouldn't have said that, don't want to jinx myself.

Now embarking on a major diet and exercise plan in order to be able to fit into my wedding dress in August. Being at home for the pst 10 months has caused lots of snacking and I have some pretty big love hundles to shift. I think if I start now I can take it slowly and steadily which should still allow me a few treats now and then.

Gorgeous day today! Hope you are all enjoying it.

Slow and steady with the weight loss holly - that's the best way to keep it off for good. Is there any exercise you like doing? If you can get in a session once or twice a week that will be a great kick start, and will also help your sleep too!

I've been sleeping really well too! And DH has been away this week, and I seem to have coped fine.

Got my letter through following the nuchal scan this morning and my risk for Downs is 1 in 49,000 so pretty pleased with that.

Hope you are all well.x

Hello! I'm sleeping ok at the moment but do use Paul M more times than I'd like (somehow it feels like a failure if I resort to the ipod I don't know why). I never hear the end of the CD and in fact didn't even get to the bit when he goes on about the swing last night!

Sun is lovely, isn't it?

GetDown you are positively blooming!!! Yeah!

I had my first CBT session this week - it was really good.

Hi becky! Glad to hear your CBT went well. I did see your other thread. That's fab. Definitely worth doing, because it is most effective when you are in recovery so you have the motivation and mental energy to invest in making it work.

I stupidly did CBT when I was still really quite poorly and just had no motivation or energy to carry it through. Would prob benefit a lot more from it if I did it now as I would be able to actually SEE some different, more positive ways of thinking, if that makes sense.

I do actually feel really good today! Like there is a spring in my step. Feels good to be alive.

It's not a defeat to use Mr Mckenna, it's actually fab that you've got a non-drug helping hand that really works. I don't use it much at the moment, but when I do use it I rarely hear the end of the CD too. Am going to take my ipod with me next weekend as am going away on a "ladies weekend" with my church.

Sharing a room with 3 others which usually spells bad insomnia for me, so am hoping I stay calm and manage to get some sleep!

Hi all I'm back!

We had a good trip - quite emotionally tiring because every step triggers memories (now I have processed the abuse stuff mostly, ordinary memories of my childhood are coming back too, thick and fast).

We ended by visiting MIL's grave, then on to Belgium, France, Eurotunnel, and then when driving off the train the car gave up. Aaaargh. We spent 5 hours in a recovery truck and got home just before midnight. DS slept almost the whole way. Today I was meant to be chilling out, meeting a friend for coffee etc. But there's a broken car on the drive...a week before the new one is due to be delivered!! Soooo....have things to sort today. Bleurgh.

But we're all ok. How are you all?

Hi everyone!

Madmouse Glad to hear that you had a good trip, was thinking of you.

Getdown Great news about the bump! I am going to try and take slow and steady with the weight loss. I take DS for a long walk everyday and i've been using my wii fit. I actually love kayaking but haven't been for a while due to the cold weather and needed to look after DS but am starting again next week. Should help to tone my arms up!

Becky DS and I are loving the sunshine too. We've been out in the garden every day. DS ate a viola the other day though, whoops . Though it was out of reach but he managed to grab hold of it. He also ate some soil,

Had an awful nights sleep but not due to insomnia which is a positive I guess. Didn't get to bed until gone 11pm as DH to be likes to stay up late. Was then woken by him snoring really loudly at 3am. He was so loud that I couldn't get back to sleep. Tried kicking him and finally got him to roll over which meant he stopped and I then managed to get back to sleep only to be woken at 5 but the stupid cat, agghhh. Then dozed until DS woke at 6:45. Feel a bit spacey today.

Hope everyone else is ok

My DH kept me awake snoring last night too! He's been away the previous 3 nights so think I'd got used to silence It's so annoying isn't it? I just said "SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" really loudly and gave him a shove, followed by huffing and putting in my ear plugs! The ear plugs do make my ears hurt though so aren't great to use every night.

DS3 is having his nap and all I want to do is lie down and have a nap! I can't though as I have to work. This morning I struggled to wake up and DH got DS3 up for me. Sooo sleepy for some reason.

Hi all,

Getdown I've warned DH to be that if the snoring continues he's going to be kicked out of the bedroom. I knwo its not his fault but he could at least try using the nose strips that I bought him. Might give the ear plugs a go though!

Becky How are you feeling now?

I had an awful nights sleep. It took me a while to drift off and I was then woken at 1 by the cats setting of one of DS's toys and then I woke at 5 and couldn't get back to sleep. Oh well i'm sure tonight will be better.

Hi everyone, I didn't sleep too well either last night - took a while to drift off (used Mr McKenna in the end) and woke at 5am feeling really, really anxious and tight in the belly. Horrible.

Ah well, other than that, busy x a million with work.

Holly we'll sleep better tonight.

Second CBT tomorrow - eeek!

Didn't sleep well last night. Not happy :( Took out my tiredness on DS1 and DS2 this morning as they dawdled through getting ready for school. Even less happy.

Oh dear sorry to hear about the bad nights becky do you think it is the stress of work? Maybe re-read the sections of the Paul M book about shutting off the stuff from the day?

I've been sleeping really well lately, a bit too well, not waking up on time! (which is very unusual for me). The other night I dreamt I was at the royal wedding, only the bride was Japanese, and she took me on a private tour of the palace kitchens, only she walked into a door and broke her nose! I was mortified and blamed myself for the bride having a bloody puffy nose on her wedding day Weird or what.

Tomorrow is my last day of work before becoming a full time mummy! (gulp - bit scared).

Oh and am going away this weekend on a ladies weekend - sharing a room with 3 others. Am a bit nervous this will screw up my sleep.

GetDown you've been sleeping soooo well you'll be fine this weekend. I am sure of it.

How many weeks are you now? Time is flying by!!!