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Insomnia friends - I will sleep well tonight because I have told my unconscious I will- Part II

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madmouse · 02/09/2010 22:53

Help we left it too late the old thread is full!!! Hope we all find this one!!!

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orangeflutie · 20/11/2010 10:56

Hi

Just got back from doing a few calls this morning. For some reason I put my name down for today. It seemed quite far off when I did it. Fortunately I've not been out
long and am having a quick drink before we all go out to the school bazaar. Becky you're not alone I haven't started Christmas shopping either:)!

Hope you manage to meet up with Madmouse in Oxford Becky. Sounds fun, I haven't been there for years.

GetDown hope your stiff neck is improving and it's great you had a good nights sleep without anything.

Thanks for your support re my DH. It does make me feel better xx

BeckyBendyLegs · 20/11/2010 16:43

DH is taking the DSs to the PIL's for the night - he's just gone. House is horrible. I hate it. I don't find this a treat at all really. I miss them too much :(

GetDownYouWillFall · 20/11/2010 17:03

oh becky!

Right. Indulgent bubble bath, take away, hot chocolate, good book, mumsnet?

Do all the things you never normally get time for.

Just enjoy it!

BeckyBendyLegs · 21/11/2010 10:34

Hi GetDown I did try to relax, just kept finding things that needed doing! Then we went out for Chinese meal at one of those 'all you can stuff down your gob buffets' and then saw the Harry Potter film. Woke up this morning and finally felt relaxed! Egg butties in bed - yummmm! Now I am ironing and listening to The Archers. We're off to get the hoard soon.

madmouse · 21/11/2010 14:08

Sorry I'm leaving the MH section for a while. I've tried to protect a friend, it's gone wrong and I'm very upset. Don't want to be here for now

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GetDownYouWillFall · 21/11/2010 14:52

Oh madmouse I am so sorry! I read the other thread, and really felt for you. That response you got was totally uncalled for. Sad Sad Sad

You have been nothing but helpful, supportive, lovely. Please don't go! From this thread, OR the other one. I know the person you were supporting really values the help you've given.

I think someone else has waded in with their size 9s, into a situation they know nothing about. I'm so sorry you;ve been hurt Sad

HUGS

BeckyBendyLegs · 21/11/2010 17:11

Madmouse please, please don't go. I saw the other thread too and you are such a wonderful helpful person. :( :( :(

HUGS from me too.

PS Not sure if we are going to be able to meet in Oxford on SAt. You'll be with your friend when I'm in Oxford and I don't want to interrupt. We can still do the Museum thing perhaps over Christmas?

kizzie · 22/11/2010 15:26

Madmouse im so sorry youve got caught up in all this - I know you always do so much to support everyone else Sad. Try not to take it too much to heart - although i know thats easier said than done x

orangeflutie · 22/11/2010 17:29

I read the Kibbutz thread and was quite shocked at how quickly it got nasty Madmouse. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion but this board isn't the place for attacking people. x

kibbutz83 · 22/11/2010 18:02

I'm sorry if you all felt that I was being nasty to madmouse... I never intended that. I was only trying to assert myself as I felt that what madmouse did in opening a thread in my name, was poorly judged and unnecessary :(

BeckyBendyLegs · 22/11/2010 19:19

It's not your fault Kibbutz - I am sure you know she was just tryiing to do what she does so well - help someone else. I'm just sad that she's so upset to the extent she doesn't want to be on these threads for a while. We need her!!!! I hope she's reading these posts and at least realises how appreciated she is and how sad we all feel about this :(

Hello Kizzie I hope you are doing ok.

GetDownYouWillFall · 22/11/2010 21:26

Hi everyone. I think kibbutz we have to be careful on the mental health board because everyone who posts here has issues, everyone has vulnerabilities, that's why we're here. It's not like "Am I being unreasonable" where you take your chance at getting flamed or judged or whatever. And to some people, criticism is like water off a ducks back.

I know it was mainly Ennis that did the damage and I don't think she really realised how hurtful she had been Sad But the mental health section is supposed to be about support, not about flaming each other Sad.

If you read what madmouse actually said when she started that thread for you, it was to try and open a forum where you could get support. It was not a criticism of you.

Anyway, hope you are ok madmouse and please come back when you are ready.

Hi kizzie how are you?

I had quite a disturbed night Sad Found out yesterday my cousin's DH has left her Sad She is devastated. They have two little girls. They got married 7 days before me and DH (7 years ago). Feel so awful for her. Kept thinking about them last night and had a dream about them too.

kibbutz83 · 22/11/2010 22:03

Hello Getdown, I just wanted to say that madmouse doesn't really know me well enough to open a thread on my behalf, and perhaps should have asked me first?
I also would like to say that I don't feel your "attack" on Ennis is warranted, as you don't really know the full situation :(
I am well-aware that criticism is not like water off a duck's back here, and we are ALL vulnerable. But I do believe if we have valid opinions about things which affect us, we should be able to discuss them maturely...

madmouse · 22/11/2010 22:24

Hi all

I'm here and yes I have been reading.

I don't want to say much about it other than that I believe things have been pulled out of context and I haven't had a fair hearing.

Kibbutz you said some unkind things, including an insinuation that my attempts to help others are somehow a problem or an issue. In view of the fact that I receive appropriate support myself, from a qualified professional, good friends and people on MN I can assure you that it's not. I just hope that offering a measure of support to others somehow means my experience was not for nothing.

But hey, this thread is home, I don't want to defend myself on here, just want to be myself.

How is everyone? (Including you Kibbutz)

I'm very fragile - struggling with more issues that have come up in counselling and at the moment it means I dissociate a lot and kind of keep disappearing from my body. Something needs to come out but I can't reach it and I'm sleeping badly.

Becky we could meet if it is in any way convenient for you to be in the centre of Oxford by 10-10.30. But quite happy to stick with the original Christmas plan

Take care everyone

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kibbutz83 · 22/11/2010 22:32

Hello madmouse, yes I guess I did... and I had good reason to express those opinions, and I still believe they are justified. These things may one day make more sense to you, as you are so early in your healing still.

madmouse · 22/11/2010 22:37

If you don't mind, for the sake of this thread, I will not respond to that comment

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kibbutz83 · 22/11/2010 22:47

I wasn't asking for a response madmouse, just being honest about how I feel about this situation.
Can I also "suggest" that nowhere on mumsnet does it state that we must all agree with eachother's opinions!

kibbutz83 · 22/11/2010 22:47

ps or be "best buddies"

EnnisDelMar · 23/11/2010 07:29

Hello,

I realise I don't belong in this thread. I have no wish to intrude so I will keep this brief, and please, forgive the intrusion, but I saw my name highlighted and felt I should respond.

You are right, Getdown - I didn't realise that my comments were hurtful, and still struggle to understand how I am seen to have 'flamed' anyone.

I stand by the things I posted and emphatically had no wish to upset or hurt anyone at all.

I also don't understand how I have caused 'damage', but if I have, then I must apologise.

Thankyou Kibbutz for defending me.

I will leave this thread now as I don't believe it is somewhere I should be - it is your place, but being spoken about openly warrants a reply I think.

Best to all of you,
Ennis

EnnisDelMar · 23/11/2010 07:41

(please see revision on other thread)

BeckyBendyLegs · 23/11/2010 08:15

Madmouse I have sent your a facebook email :)

GetDown sure you can't make it up to Oxford??

madmouse · 23/11/2010 08:51

Morning everyone are we still sleeping mostly ok?

Getdown how is your poor cousin?

I get to meet Becky on Saturday yay!

After a chat with my friend last night in the car (and bursting into tears again out of sheer frustration) I do seem to have slept, albeit dreaming all night. So weird to wake up at 7.30 and sti feel shattered!

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BeckyBendyLegs · 23/11/2010 10:34

And Arcadia is coming too!!! Yeah! I'm really excited to meet to of you!

GetDown your poor cousin - that's so sad :( I heard recently about a friend of mine from where I lived near Oxford who is recently divorced. She has two girls too - one DS1's age and the other DS2's age. Very sad.

GetDownYouWillFall · 23/11/2010 12:26

Hi all! I am quite Envy to hear some of you are meeting up!! Unfortunately it?s nearly 3 hours each way from where I live, and don?t think I can?t make it. Sorry. Maybe one day we could all meet up in London? If that is a good place we could all get to? Most places have a train that goes towards London.

I feel so Sad about my cousin. She is a lovely friend, and their girls were both IVF babies ? they have been through so much together, that?s why I just can?t understand it. He has moved out and taken all his stuff and refusing to talk to her Sad Also because they got married so close to when we got married, just makes it even more sad somehow.

I had a dreadful night last night. So much stuff whirring round my head. I occasionally still get these panics that sleep (or lack thereof) is ruining my life. I have been off the mirtazapine quite a while now which is great. But the terrible thing is I am still so tempted to take it! Especially after a bad night. I want to be off it, but I don?t if that makes sense? Arrggh.

Also my church are doing a ladies? weekend away to the Lake District next April. DH really thinks I should go. I?d love to go. But guess what I?m worrying about?.

madmouse · 23/11/2010 16:44

Getdown sorry you had a bad night. But you are doing so amazingly well, you're off your last meds. That's amazing and you will settle down further.

Don't go about worrying about April next year - just look back over the same number of months that is between now and April and see how much progress you have made!

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