Blood Sugar Diet & Fast 800 Thread 22

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Blood Sugar Diet & Fast 800 Thread 21

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Hi, noticed the thread was full so started this new one. Link to previous one above.

@Squaretoe Truthfully it took me 2 weeks before I started actually feeling better. My tips would be go heavy on the protein, add salt to everything & drink 3-4L of water a day!

@PhoenixMama thank you, I’ll buckle up for the next week and a bit! It’s not pleasant feeling hungry obviously but it’s manageable and I feel like I’ll be able to stick to it.

I'm also on day 4! I haven't felt too bad hungerwise. I mean I've felt hungry but it's not felt unmanageable. The worse part has been missing a lot of things that were just habit e.g. l loads of tea and coffee with milk, a biscuit after dinner etc. I've really enjoyed the meals so far.

@PhoenixMama why salt? 🤔

Bugger. Shite day today. Was fine until dinner then I was tired and headachey and just could not be arsed so ate half a pizza from the freezer. Then ate 3 squares of choc.

I have lost no weight at all this week and feel flabby and bloated which given I have been exemplary since Saturday is just not fair. I am so close to giving up I really am. I can't keep going on without some kind of result. I am not hugely enjoying the food - I find it repetitive and I am not feeling particularly energised. To be fair I rarely feel hungry and it's stopped me snacking but I have no joy in food.

I am considering moving into 5:2 for a bit maybe. But if I don't lose weight on 800 cals I'm not going to if I eat more am I. So fed up and really quite down.

Oh and I have measured and I am slightly shrinking but it's health driven for me and I need to reduce my weight I really do. I

Day 4 - didn't weigh today... I just didn't feel like it.

I think I was worried that it might not be a loss or it would be a maintain and it's been a tough couple of days on the fast800- it's a tough diet, strict and it requires a lot of headspace for me atm as it's so new.
That being said, I feel much better, honestly, than I have in a while. I feel almost inspired or something and really positive.

@PhoenixMama Hope you're feeling better- well done on your loss...how amazing will it be to be in the 170s!!! Hope you were able to stay focused today and if not, tomorrow is a fresh new day!

@texican HURRAY for the 9s- I'm desperate to see the 9s too, it's been 3 years.. sigh! Your success is inspiring me too, can't wait to see the number on the scales go down

@funtimefrank How long have you been doing this for? It's really not unusual to plateau for a week - 10 days, as long as you stick with it the weight will come off. I know it's hard when the scale doesn't move regularly but as long as you're trending downwards and not up it's working! As always make sure you're drinking 3L+ of water a day, getting salt & tracking your did. If you want to post your macros for the last couple of days (not counting today) that might help see where things could change?

@Squirrelblanket Salt because otherwise you retain water, the salt helps your body flush everything out.

My day went off the rails like I thought it might. Chinese takeaway for dinner because I'm just so exhausted and feeling crap. Turning in momentarily so I can get a good night's sleep, run tomorrow and trade my normal Friday night tortilla pizza for healthier choices!

Thank you @PhoenixMama .

I've been doing this since 2 jan and have had 4 days 'off' so this is week 5. My issue is I don't have a starting weight - I was around 12 3 ish before Christmas, could feel I put on a block over Christmas as all my clothes got very tight and I could feel rolls of flab so I suspect it was probably a 5lb gain over December.

Weighed myself for the first time on Saturday hoping to have shifted a reasonable amount but only got down to 11 13 so between 4-8 lb max in a month. I have lost an inch on my waist and 2 from my hips. And I'm only a shortie.

In terms of macros we'll ignore today but last 2 days:

Carbs 35g (18%), 40g (20%)
Fat 46g (53%), 45g (51%)
Protein 56g (29%), 59g (29%)

This is pretty typical. Carbs always under 50g and mostly from veg with one portion of fruit a day and a bit of dairy (I am a pescatarian but eat veggie a lot)

I probably am a bit short on water - I drink a lot of herbal tea and a couple of normal tea/coffee but it's probably not 3 litres. I do take magnesium for sleep already and salt highly unlikely to be an issue.

@funtimefrank So let's take the best case scenario, which is before this week you've lost 8lbs or 2lbs a week - which is brilliant! How many other 'diets' give you that? You've also lost 3" of fat! Also brilliant! So it's not failing you, you're just having a plateau week which is really normal - I have one within every 6 weeks at least.

Looking at your macros I would say you are significantly over on fat and under on protein. I did this too in the beginning.

Try aiming for: Protein 40%, Fat: 35%, Carbs: 25%. You're nailing the low carb, you just need to swap your protein & fat percentages.

Also remember your cycle will definitely play with your weight, I can fluctuate by over 5lbs!

Hope that helps?

Day 5 and I’m still thinking about food all the time 😂 another loss this morning though so that’s 6lb off since Monday. Just broke my fast with an omelette and 500ml fizzy water and I now feel actually full for the first time all week!

@Squaretoe your losses are amazing! The book says hunger abaits after 2weeks - I still get really hungry before I break my fast and in the evenings

Went slightly over my calories tonight, nothing crazy and all healthy salad veg and some healthy protein plus some extra oat milk in my hot cocoa (which is just Cocoa ,hot water and oat milk, but still nice and comforting!

@shreddergodo I’m quite shocked by the losses to be honest! I did hammer the carbs last weekend though (family birthday) so I’m guessing there’s a lot of water being lost this week.

I love this thread, I read through it a lot during the day when I’m having weak moments!

@PhoenixMama Thanks for the salt tip!

End of day 5 for me. The day has been fine but I missed having a Friday night beer or glass of wine. My husband is having a few beers so I'm in bed watching Netflix to distract myself. This first weekend is going to be the hardest for me no doubt.

I’ve got two more days until I’ve done two weeks. I’m more like 1000 a day but that’s much more achievable for me. Well done for those sticking to 800! And well done on your losses.
I’m having terrible restless legs so not sleeping very well atm.

Morning everyone

@Squirrelblanket the first weekend is definitely the hardest. I hadn't done an alcohol free whole weekend in about 5 years and the first was slightly 'uncomfortable' as in I missed it but just the action of the habit and joining my partner in it. After that though it has been easy and I've barely thought about it, although I have had Saturdays off. Saying that, last night I had a glass of wine with dinner. I'm actually quite annoyed with myself - it's been a hard and emotional week, my partner and step daughter were having a drink and I'd made our fave red Thai curry dinner. All usual triggers and I thought I would have a glass of wine with my dinner because I 'wanted' it purely in my head, like I 'deserved' it. I really didn't enjoy it. Halfway through I was going to give it to my partner to finish...but I didn't, I drank it even though I wasn't enjoying it. I'm not sure why but this proves to me that my better habits are still not ingrained after a month. It was slightly self destructive feeling - although I know how melodramatic that sounds over one glass of wine!!! I did keep it just to one 175ml but I was annoyed with myself that I had continued to itch it despite consciously noticing I didn't want it. That's what got me here in the first place!!!

A nice treat yesterday morning was a couple more oz off so I'm half a pound into the lower stone now which starts to feel a bit more secure. It also marked the definitely lost a stone mark and I took some 'during' (not after yet) pics to go with my before pics and can definitely see a difference. All going in the right direction.

@Squaretoe I do the same - and I read back over all the old ones too. I find to helps to keep my head firmly in the game!

Have a great Saturday everyone. @funtimefrank keep on keeping on, you'll get to where you want this way, even if the time is frustrating. One of the quotes that I saw that has helped me is "if you keep going you won't regret it". I use the same sort of mantra about exercise ("no one ever regrets doing exercise"). Maybe I just have a thing about regrets!!!!

Day 6 - And first weekend. So far so good (haha only 9am)... not weighed again, I don't know why I'm so afraid but I think it's just feeling like it might disappoint me and then I'll be off the wagon.. So silly.
I'll weigh on Monday in stone and lbs that's the plan.for some reason, it hasn't felt that 'difficult'. I also haven't been exercising at all, because of my knee I sit down a lot so I'm not expecting the losses you guys are having... but still I'm sure I'll have gone down a little, I mean I already can see that I'm leaner and less bloated at least...
anyone else scared of weighing? or just me haha

@texican I've had so many moments like your wine moment over the last couple years, doing things purely out of 'defiance' or like 'well it's here might as well'. I actually stopped eating dinner, even though halfway through last night, because I wasn't enjoying it and felt a bit grossed out by it (it was a normal dinner of salad and some protein). I think it's not melodramatic, I think this diet has really helped me see those moments where I seemingly force things on myself for some weird reason- I sometimes think they are reactions to other feelings (tiredness, sadness) and that I will feel 'better' if I have things that I am 'depriving' myself of when really a good sleep or a good cry would be so much better!

Weekends are always the hardest on any diet aren’t they? I missed my toast this morning!
DH is working over the whole weekend, he’s on a twelve hour call today and tomorrow so his boss really kindly sent pizza to the house, including sides for our DC. Really lovely of him however I am finding this torturous! He even sent Diet Coke which is my favourite thing in the entire world
Being strong though even though I want to scream
How’s everyone’s weekend going?

Afternoon all! Back down to my lowest this week which means I've officially lost 1 stone! Had a small bourbon last night which was lovely but also didn't feel like I needed it, just wanted it and I did enjoy it.

@texican & @shreddergodo This diet is very good at making you look at WHY you want something. I've had so many realisations about how my insecurity plays out in craving a sugar high because it momentarily gives me that boost that feels a bit like confidence until it passes and then I'm back with my emotions again. It's always a work in progress but sometimes just realising what I'm doing feels like a change rather than doing it mindlessly.

@Chunkymonkey123 Sounds like you need magnesium! You can get an oil spray that really helps with restless legs and/or muscle cramps - makes a big difference for me!

I'm a bit down today and DD is at her dad's so it's just me stuck in the house with myself - never fun. Weather's awful so not even all that interested in going for a walk by myself. We'll see. Food all planned out and the cupboards are pretty empty lol so thankfully there's not much to go off the rails with! Would love to try and lose another 1lb this weekend so going to try to be good!

Thanks @texican!

It's not been too bad so far as my husband is hungover from his beers last night, so there's been no temptation today.

We had the lamb saag from the original recipe book for dinner. It was lovely! Cauliflower rice for me and normal rice for him.

@PhoenixMama YES! It's also a bit of 'me' time as in 'treating' myself when DC is asleep... I'm sorry your down- how has everything panned out so far? I'm also feeling a bit off, got really angry at DH for a few annoying comments (but like, blood boiling rage). Another thing I would usually use sugar for (act of DEFIANCE, an f-you kind of thing...)

Sorry for the TMI- anyone struggling to poo? Not struggling just, slow bowels? I used to be v regular, once a day in the morning and now it's a no show

I ended up weighing (10 st 6, I don't remember what I was in stone which is good because it's just a number. I know my first goal will be to get down into the 9st bracket and then take it from there) but after drinking water and coffee and midway through the day so I'll probably skip tomorrow and weigh in on Monday officially.

Sorry for all the double posts- I keep hitting the send button and wanted to say, I really hope 10.5 is not where I stay and can carry on to at least 10.3 on Monday... I don't know why but I feel like 3 lbs to first target weight would be such a boost in moral.

I think next week I will be stricter with the whole 800 kcal thing as I've been a bit lax with it this week.

I find it so hard though, I think because I tend to eat more than would be ideal in the first meal of the day and then can't be bothered to try and eat 200 kcal worth of food for dinner... but I'm sure probably just going over by max 200kcals so hopefully still have results. I realllllly want to go into ketosis though and get rid of something of the fat I've put on over lockdown. so sick of wobbling around haha.

Thanks for the support guys. I've carried on but haven't weighed myself and still feel bulky and flabby. I did measure my waist which appeared to be bigger then last time. Pah!

However I have had some nice food - tonight I made a takeaway Chinese prawn and mushroom thing for a mighty 200 cals! It was lovely.

Re the poo, yes much less often but actually as long as I have drunk enough and eaten enough veg then not 'difficult'. I find magnesium helps

Thank you @PhoenixMama I will try magnesium, it’s driving me bonkers!
I’ve got the food shop tonight so I’ve planned out another week of meals but at the moment just need to make it to weigh in Monday! Life is so boring at the moment and normally I would be treating myself with food.

Day 7 - 10 st 5 lbs... carb flu in full force, head ache when I wake up 2 days in a row

@shreddergodo Lots of water and it will def pass. Mine lasted about 5-7 days but then I felt much better.

With regards to what you were saying about breakfast & then extra cals at dinner, can you do a smaller, more protein heavy 'breakfast' so you can have a bigger dinner? I know for me that if i eek up to 900 cals I'll still be ok but as soon as I hit 1000 my weight loss slows right down. You'll def not hit ketosis on 1000.

@Chunkymonkey123 I totally hear you on the boredom factor!

Yesterday was a really tough day for me emotionally. I cried at least twice and was so ragingly insecure, but I think its hormonal as I'm due on next week and once I realised that I actually feel a lot better today.

Also, this morning I ran 25mins straight with C25K - I haven't been able to do that in over 6 years! There's a massive hill I have to run up that I couldn't walk up without getting breathless when we moved here 18 months ago, now I run up it in less than 8 mins!

That said I'm still feeling a bit flabby as someone else said, my legs are leaner but my belly is definitely still there. Good news is I've stayed the same so far this weekend (despite having a drink Fri & last night) so hoping I can be really strict today and get under 180 tomorrow...

@shreddergodo I found days 7-10 the hardest definitely. I was so smug days 1-6 thinking I'd escaped any symptoms but then it hit me day 7 for a few days. Headache, complete lethargy, grumpy, wiped. I then felt better for a few weeks and this last week appear to have entered the 'feeling energised' stage - finally! I blame the fact that I was such a white carb addict my sugar stores must have resembled a Tate & Lyle factory!!! So took me longer to move through each stage. It does get better though - sleep where you can for the next few days.

Thanks everyone for your empathy over my mindless drink consumption meltdown. Like you say @PhoenixMama, really I should be glad that I even noticed it at all rather than be so hard on myself for doing it. Taken a good few years of bad habits to put the weight on, not realistic to undo them in a month.

Burger with bacon and cheese (no bun), salad and a couple of sweet potato wedges for the main event today. Then poss scrambled eggs later. Need some ideas for lunches I think as I seem to rotate scrambled eggs or salad and getting a little bit bored of them especially when I have salad with dinner some evenings too.

Well done to weight losers this weekend!