Blood Sugar Diet & Fast 800 Thread 21

[NotDonna]

Here’s a link to our previous thread.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/fasting_diet/3950031-blood-sugar-diet-and-fast800-thread-20

Whenever i start to waiver i think about how unhappy i felt eating all that stuff and how it made me feel and it keeps me motivated.

This is such a good point. I feel the same.

@carbhunter I was reading that and thinking ‘where did she find the TIME to eat all that?’ - but that’s just a reflection of changes I’ve made here, because I know I’ve had days where I’ve eaten that much. Do you feel kind of free in a way?

Not sure if i feel free. I definitely feel more like an adult in control of my choices. I felt like a bit of a victim before, like i couldn't help myself so there was no point trying? I was fed up with myself whereas now i feel quite proud. It is still hard, but i am hoping one day soon it will be easy and become second nature!

@carbhunter I know what you mean - my sugar and carb cravings are gone - I felt like I couldn’t escape them before. However I feel like my friends are trying to push me off the wagon at the moment - I’m worried that if I break it’ll be a slippery slope, but I really want to crack the weight loss!

I’m 9lbs down so far and on Wk3 D2.

Some brilliant NSVs on here! It is really rewarding and positive looking at this thread.

I’m not sure where to go from here. I think it’s time to stop 800cals as I’m getting a bit crazy and it’s not good for me (mentally). I know this as I’m a bit anxious about stopping and then suddenly gaining loads of weight. Clearly this is quite irrational.

I’m thinking of holding on to 16:8 but eating in a more relaxed way at the weekend and continuing with the fast800 principles but no weighing during the week. I think part of my nervousness is that I feel really good and energetic on this woe having found the first week very difficult (like audrina) so I don’t want to risk having to go through keto flu and all that all over again. But I know I can’t stay on 800 Cals as I’ll get too thin.

@carbhunter is it really bad that I read your post and was instantly craving hot toast dripping with butter I don't think your post was supposed to have that effect

Yes I think 800 calories is useful to start you off and kick you into a new woe and weight loss, but at a certain point it risks becoming too hard and you can lose motivation.

I've fallen into my own pattern of eating about 1000 calories a day and a couple of times a week I have a day of 11-1200 calories. I'm still losing weight and making much better choices but i felt that if I continued to be super restrictive it would make me give up and crack. I think everyone has to find what works for them though.

aceofbase1 seriously hot buttered toast is my favourite thing in life, its my own personal crack.
Hoping that I will one day be able to enjoy it on occasion without going crazy, I haven't trusted myself to have any yet as I'm too scared!

Morning all! Another lb down here, which I'm asked at as I was over yesterday. Bit of dark choc & an tiny choc pot from Coconut Collective. Damn I love those things! (Only 100cals though so better than other possible choices!) Going to be strict today because tomorrow we're out for dinner & I won't be able to have as much going control.

@Purpleraindeer I think it all depends on how long you've been doing it for & how much you have to lose. In my experience of watching people on here everybody has a plateau they hit when their body won't go any further but also often you can stop 800 & be fine for months and then it starts coming back on again relatively quickly.

I think, because of my personal relationship with food & emotional eating I'll have to be really conscious of what I eat for a very very long time before I can just go about my day without thinking about it. Although a lot of my weight gain was down to medication I didn't gain 70lbs overnight, it was bad habits slowly over 10 years. Hopefully it won't take me that long to get back to my goal weight but I really need to give myself the time to undo all of those years worth of damage.

I think you can only try what's best for you & figure out out through trial & error. They're was a lady on the thread last year who did an amazing job of slowly coming off but she did it in little steps. I think she stopped counting limiting herself to 800 Cal's but still put it in mfp, then she stopped counting at the weekends, then she stopped using mfp but tried to stay where she thought was 1000-1200 using what she learned in fast800. And she kept weighing herself weekly and if she went up then she just did a few days at strict 800 to get back. I thought it was really controlled and sensible!

Visiting family today. Eating with them this evening. Think this is best managed with OMAD (one meal a day). Have let them know I am low carb so hopefully will not be presented with pizza or a big plate of pasta! Won’t be able to weigh or monitor every ingredient but surely if I am careful I can keep cals under 800 in one meal.

Looking forward to seeing them.

Had a static day yesterday but had a pint of cider in the sunshine, which actually I didn’t enjoy and won’t do again - of all the habits that are hard to break, it’s alcohol on a summery evening that’s proving the most stubborn. Sunny again today but am determined not to crack, that’s my goal for today. I guess if I was ever approaching ketosis, I’m now not, and I’m a bit cross with myself in fact.

@Purpleraindeer sounds like you could do 2:5 and relax a bit at the weekend and see how you are mentally and weight wise over the following weeks.

I just had the most delicious omelette ever. It was lovely and golden on the outside and filled with chicken, ham, tomatoes, onion and some grated cheddar and mozzarella. I think it's the nicest thing I have eaten since starting.

I'm on day 7 now and thankfully my sleep has improved and the headaches have lifted. I had been drinking 2 cans of Coke Zero a day up to starting this so imagine stopping that was contributing towards the cause of the headaches.

Am expecting my amazon delivery today of scales, tape, strips and recipe books so looking forward to taking my measurements.

Already I am feeling and looking a lot less bloated and puffy and I can see some definition ( which I know has to be there somewhere after practicing an hours yoga every morning for the last 2.5 years) appearing.

Thursday night is takeaway night in our house so I made sure I had a nice plate of food ready and eaten when their food arrived so I wouldn't be feeling deprived. I even treated myself to a piece of dark rye sourdough ( imagine calling that a treat) within my calories and now as I am off work for the first time in 6 months with no kids around I am heading to get my toes painted and my eyebrows tinted and waxed. As I'm not spending money on Coke Zero and cake I might as well spend it on making myself look and feel better.

Hope everyone is pleased with their week and looking forward to the weekend.

I had a good weekend away, scales went up, iffy return on Tuesday (all good apart from cake) but in control again on Wednesday. I still have 2lb to lose to get back to last Friday's weight but it's ok. Think for the first time in my life I truly understand that the weight didn't go on overnight, it won't come off overnight. I don't want to be fat anymore but I don't want to be miserable either. Will stick to the plan most days but if I don't a couple of days a month that's ok. The overall trend is down and that's what I want.

Audrina I had headaches first few days as I was missing coffee but they pass quite quickly. Have a good weekend.

I just made myself a bowl of roasted cauliflower as a snack- who am I?

*PhoenixMama

I just made myself a bowl of roasted cauliflower as a snack- who am I?*

I had the most amazing and simple tea! Cauliflower rice fried off on a high heat with no oil, peas and diced pork, soy sauce and salt and pepper and garlic. Oh my it was delicious and I swear it tasted like chicken fried rice!! I would never know that the majority of that meal was veg it was so filling. Greek yogurt with mashed strawberries for desert and I feel like Ive eaten like a king tonight

I've also been having the konjac noodles in a stir fry and I'm really enjoying them too.

Tomorrow night I think I'll have the same meal but throw some onion and peppers in and dark chocolate for after

So my smart scales arrived and this morning I am exactly 13st with BMI of 28.6. So I need to lose just over 20lb to get to my healthy range. I don't know how much I've lost in the week since I started but happy enough to use 13 st as my starting weight. Going to do a yoga class at 9 and a big shop after to make sure I have enough choices not to make bad ones. So far I have stuck to the 800cals.

I have been going over the 800 as some other posters have mentioned and it hasn't hampered my weight loss. I'm not eating carbs at all though so that probably helps. I'm averaging about 900 calories each day.

So today I've hit the 1 stone loss mark 4 weeks in and I'm over the moon. I have another stone to lose to get back to my pre lockdown weight and then I want another stone to take me back to a size 10 I'm plodding along hoping I can make a significant dent in that by Christmas and then I'll allow myself a week off over Christmas and then back to it.

I read that we are supposed to restrict calories for 8 weeks but has anyone else gone over that?

Love the sound of you cauliflower dinner @aceofbase1.

Lovely day with my daughter yesterday. OMAD probably allowed me to keep at least below 1000 cals. I had a lovely Thai tofu and cashew chilli stir fry and no rice. My daughter had got in zero alcohol seedlip and tonic for me which I had before dinner and a zero alc beer. Lovely day. She’s just made me scrambled eggs, mushrooms and smoked salmon for breakfast. Yum. No plan for the rest of the day so need a think on that.

No change on the scale but feel ravenously hungry & spent all of last night wanting a glass of red wine!

Will be drinking a bit today as with 2 different groups of friends but will be good tomorrow and back on it on Monday!

That pork/cauliflower sounded lovely aceofbase. What sort of pork was it? Did you just stir fry it and then put cauliflower in to make it like special fried rice?

Jolihollibobs - how did you make your Thai tofu dish? It sounds nice too.

Can you tell I’m looking for new food options?

I made a cauliflower dish with paneer cheese last week and it was delicious. I recommend paneer. Yummy.

Had a go off diet last night and had some m&s Chinese dinner and a glass of wine. Immediately got really tipsy, then ate cheese and biscuits and generally stuffed my face. Had a hangover this morning 16/8 and a bit more self control today!

@Purpleraindeer it was just a plain piece of pork loin and I cooked it in the oven in tin foil and then once cooked I sliced it up into small pieces and then added cauliflower rice, pork and peas to a front pan and just fried it for a few minutes before adding the soy sauce

@Purpleraindeer I wish I had made the Thai tofu cashew dish but I had it in a restaurant as I was visiting family and wanted to treat them.

I’m doing cauliflower steaks tonight as a first time. Got some amazing looking King oyster mushrooms to cook in garlic butter to go with them. Noting a lack of protein but not sure how to address that and I have just stood in the kitchen and mindlessly wolfed a load of cheddar. So that my protein sorted. The rest of the family can have chorizo on the side.

Hi just wondering how posters fill the emotional void that eating certain foods fill while on fast 800. For me I notice it at the weekend afternoons or nights especially. I associate these times with relaxing and treating myself after a long weeks work and being on top of everything. One of the ways I have up to now treated myself would be to pick up nice cake or chocolate or biscuits and enjoy them on the sofa with a cup of tea or a Coke Zero. While I'm not necessarily missing the food I am missing the emotional, comforting satisfaction that I used to get from this. I will already have done my daily exercise, cleaning, shopping etc by this time of day and I am in danger of just ordering nice treats online ( skin care, yoga clothes, candles) to fill this void if I don't address it in some better way. Knitting or crochet are not my thing ( cack handed) and I do meet some of the void by browsing mn and other sites ( hence the urge to order stuff) so just wondering if others have found something comforting to do to replace this feeling. Thanks

@mysweetaudrina
I don't have many answers but totally recognise your point! I have replaced the sweet treat I craved at the end of my evening meal with a cup of tea WITH MILK IN! It feels like a huge luxury after a day of black coffee and herbal tea.