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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet and fast800 thread 20

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 26/06/2020 10:41

Thread 20, can you believe it?

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justanotherneighinparadise · 22/07/2020 08:43

I have had two bad experiences with Bare Naked Noodles, which is annoying as I don’t mind the taste of them at all! If I eat them at lunch I wake up in the night with the most horrific nausea that keeps me awake for hours. I have read similar reviews online. I have three packs in the cupboard but I’m scared of them now 🙈🤦🏻‍♀️

Kimlek · 22/07/2020 08:44

👋🏼 @fufulina your camping weekends sound fab and you did brilliantly. Well done you staying well and truly on track. I think your maintaining plan sounds good but you’ll have a better idea once you’re there. I too have to weigh daily. I like to see the nuances. I was 10.1.8 one day last week and I’ve have missed it if I’d weighed weekly. I like to monitor what I can get away with 😉
@NibbleQueen dust yourself down and forget about it. The eggs and bacon are very much BSD so that’s all good. To combat the hangover drink lots and lots and lots. Don’t succumb to the carbs. Something meaty & succulent? Pan fried chicken, steak, good quality burger or sausages?
Yes @outwest ambivalence not good! Are you close to your goal too?
Well I’m blinking well 10.4 this morning but it’s to be expected. I’m not sleeping.... get 4-5 hours a night. Bloody peri menopause! So my cortisol will be high, oestrogen low and causing all sorts of hormonal nonsense.
I’ve got an hours tennis; an hours dog walk but then I’ll be sat on my backside as going into work for a couple of hours this afternoon. I’ve been stupid busy with the kids and house this last week or so and haven’t planned any meals. Need to try to do that ASAP.

NibbleQueen · 22/07/2020 08:49

Thanks @Kimlek! I was thinking along similar lines, to combat the cravings for calorie-dense food with fatty protein. A burger sounds lush! Will have to see about low-carb buns in the shops.. Hmm also Kimlek it is interesting what you say about stress and cortisol levels. I have wondered if I've been finding myself plumper during lockdown in part due to stress. I've put on a lot of weight around my middle and never really carry it there. Of course it could also be due to eating and drinking too much and exercising less...

Kimlek · 22/07/2020 08:51

@justanotherneighinparadise how interesting. To be honest you’re not missing much as totally tasteless but quite useful if there’s a yummy flavoursome bolognese. You’d be better of with courgetti. The noodles are just vegetable based aren’t they? A veg I’ve not heard of. I’m now going to research said veg. I also bought some black bean spaghetti - I’ll post a photo. From Aldi/Lidl. Bear recommended it. I’ll post it on the recipe/food thread too. It was tasteless but a good spaghetti texture and black like the squid ink spag- very cool!

Kimlek · 22/07/2020 08:55

@NibbleQueen avoid the buns. Some folk use mushrooms instead of a bun. In the states they do the juiciest burgers with sauces & pickle wrapped in lettuce leaves. Massively messy with juices and sauces running down your chin (and on my case elbows) but the perfect burger in my opinion!! I can’t quite replicate the flavour at home but something like that?

NibbleQueen · 22/07/2020 09:27

@Kimlek that sounds good, I agree pickles are essential for a good burger! I'm currently yo-yoing between the thought of that or perhaps a spicy stir-fry from the Thai takeaway. Spice seems to help and I'm happy to skip the rice as the one we order from comes with tons of veg. I'll have to see what mood strikes me come lunchtime Smile

WeKnowFrogsGoShaLaLaLaLa · 22/07/2020 10:03

I was right, I maintained at my "official" weekly weigh in compared to last week.

But my daily weigh ins show I've gained and lost 4lbs in that week. It's all very interesting. The effects of alcohol and a hungover subway footlong. 😂

Todays plan:

Ending a 23hr fast at lunchtime with a Mexican chicken/halloumi/pepper hash thing and a protein shake (always have a protein shake on weights days)
Dinner I'm having lamb and greens.

Exercise will be a BodyPump workout before lunch and 22km cycle afterwards.

Have a great day all. 😊

outwest · 22/07/2020 14:02

@Kimlek About 3kg from target, have lost around 16kg since May. Think 70-71kg is probably sweet spot, but bit of an unknown variable at this point.

WhatWillSantaBring · 22/07/2020 14:23

Morning all. @fufulina - you could be me!!! Exactly the same BMI, and I'm so close to a healthy BMI that I can smell it. Except that I keep getting tempted by cookie dough (lots of baking going on to keep the DC entertained) so gained 0.3kg overnight and have (predictably) been plunged into a depression that I'll never get to goal.

Your transition plans sound very sensible - and I have also been writing down a list of things I'll do (like weighing myself every day).

If you're interested, I started a thread to find out what healthy habits slim people have - I've found it fascinating - but one of the things that many naturally slim people say is that they never weigh themselves - instead, they go by their clothes. I think that like fuflina , I cannot see myself, and I also know that i can lie to myself about my clothes getting tight. So although I knew I was overweight (to the point of obesity) I look at the pictures of myself last summer and I'm shocked at how fat I am. Similiarly, when I'm overweight, I look at photos of myself when I'm slimmer and can't believe I was that slim as I don't remember feeling it at the time.

I think the abili9ty to judge your weight/fattiness accurately is a key difference between slim people and overweight people, because if you can tell that you've put on 5lbs, you can instinctively adjust your eating to deal with it, but if you can't tell (or worse, can "lie" to yourself despite what the scales say) then that 5lbs can easily creep up to 10lb and beyond, and then to lose weight requires a diet and/or major lifestyle change, rather than just "cutting back" a bit for a few weeks.

outwest · 22/07/2020 14:58

Re scales, found that a set of wifi scales (in my case, Fitbit Aria) that sync data to Fitbit or other account is very motivating. It gives charts, etc. to provide clear view of where current weight is in relation to own history. Bit expensive, but have not regretted it. Have been weighing myself every day since starting diet. Can now see that quietly taking the (unconscious?) decision to stop weighing myself a couple of years ago was what allowed me to gain weight so quickly.

Dinnerfor1 · 22/07/2020 17:26

I feel the same with weighing. As soon as I stop weighing frequently, the pounds creep on and I live in denial. It doesn’t help that I have a range of clothes in varying sizes, so I can always fit into something. Perhaps when I reach target this time I need to get rid of the larger clothes. I also think a lot of people who are consistently slim have a better off button. My mum has always been slim. She never over eats, always stops when she’s not hungry. I’m always amazed that she will often eat half a biscuit and save the other half for later!

Today I came off plan completely since the first time since starting the Fast800 in April. I went to visit a friend and she’d made lots of pizza, garlic bread and cupcakes. I thought it would be really rude to refuse anything so thought I would have a little bit of each. However I was a bit disappointed that my off button deserted me and I ate far too much. I was hoping this woe would have helped me find more restraint. I don’t know if it’s a coincidence but I was so tired when I got home and slept for two hours on the sofa! I need to make sure I get back on it tomorrow as in the past days like this have led to me getting totally off track.

PhoenixMama · 22/07/2020 17:38

Hi gang - feel like we're all having a tough day! I hear you. I'm bloody stalled again but I'm also stressed out of my tree and so busy. I sat down at my computer yesterday in my pjs and no make up for a 'quick call' and got back up at 7:30pm. Not good!

Def over today as I've been starving (bad night's sleep!) but hoping I can sort it out tomorrow by being really strict (no dd tomorrow night) and then I'm out for dinner Friday for the first time since lockdown which will be a write off so I'll be good all weekend and try to lose!

Justasecondnow · 22/07/2020 18:13

Hi all, and nice to see you back fufulina you’ve been doing so well- 8 inches in particular, amazing! Forgot to post yesterday’s effort. Which was a low carb ploughman’s affair for lunch and Spanish chicken for tea, plus milk for tea and sugar free jelly (ok and two cocktail sausages and 5 crisps courtesy of the kids picnic tea). About 900 again?

Today had grilled bacon boiled egg and avocado. BSD skinnny cottage pie for tea. About 850 cals today, carbs around 50 Was craving chocolate but the urge had subsided thank goodness! Struck by how not hungry I’ve been last 2 weeks - poss I’m eating more then I’m realising or I’ve finally got used to it. Did take a good few weeks!

Hope everyone had a good day.

outwest · 23/07/2020 06:44

Had a great day yesterday - low calories, limited carbs, good exercise - right up until mountain of syrup sponge pudding after dinner. Still had calorific deficit, but total too embarrassing to disclose. Must try harder. Pudding Wednesday obviously a weak spot.

Having said that, weight hit new low yesterday, so still creeping in right direction overall.

NibbleQueen · 23/07/2020 06:53

I had a few failings yesterday. Husband is a complete feeder and brought home bao buns and chocolate cream cheese spread, which I was compelled to sample.

Weight 9st12.8

Going on hols next Wednesday so was tempted to go on the plan properly after I'm back but it's nearly a full week until then so I might as well get a head start!

I made a batch of lentils at the start of the week and don't want to waste them even if they're carby. So that's lunch, blueberries with a dollop of Greek yoghurt around 3pm, salmon and broccoli for dinner (with probably a bit of dark choc for after)

WeKnowFrogsGoShaLaLaLaLa · 23/07/2020 08:39

Good morning everyone! Daily weigh shows another loss today so I'm happy. Loving the happy weigh app for showing the downward trends and giving me mini-goals.

Today's plan:

TRE: 18/6(ish - may be more by lunchtime as tea was early last night)
Lo-dough pizza for lunch if the bases arrive in time and salt and chilli beef stir fry for tea.

I'm also doing a body project workout and I'll cycle 22km today.

Have a good day everyone.

justanotherneighinparadise · 23/07/2020 08:41

Hey everyone. Checking in. There has been a loss but it’s very very slow. The scales are going down though and I’m never hungry so I’m just going to keep plodding on.

I’m still absolutely loving listening to the podcasts I talked about. I find it hugely helpful and informative.

PhoenixMama · 23/07/2020 09:36

Well after posting yesterday that things were in hand I massively fell off the wagon - rose, chocolate, rice, corn cakes - it was an unmitigated carb fest. Scale same as yest but dammit I want it moving! Going to have a very very low carb Sat & Sun but not impressed with myself!

outwest · 23/07/2020 09:36

Weight down again today by thundering 100g.
Feel like I dodged a bullet, but let's see what happens. I'm about due some flat/up days.

Dinnerfor1 · 23/07/2020 09:57

I’m going to try and do OMAD today, partly to make up for yesterday and also because dinner is going to be fairly high calorie (sausage casserole with lots of green veg). If not I’ll have some picky salad bits for lunch.

Justasecondnow · 23/07/2020 18:58

Hi all, another good day today I think.

Butternut squash and red pepper soup
Salmon and veg
Milk in tea

But then I always find being good easier on a Thursday as it’s weigh in day on Friday. Still not properly tracking everything. But using BSD recipes mostly and avoiding carbs and small portions. If I’ve lost tomos I’ll stick with it and view it as road to maintenance. If I’ve put on I might have to go back to more accurate tracking. Fingers crossed!

Fortitude to those who’ve slipped off the wagon a bit. Really agree with what I’ve read on here about how the slip doesn’t really matter rather it’s how you get back in a good headspace (or not I suppose) that will impact weight loss. Feel free to remind me of this tomorrow if I’m sulking if I haven’t lost!

Justasecondnow · 23/07/2020 21:37

Ps. justanotherneighinparadise got in the podcasts you recommended - really interesting and motivating!

outwest · 23/07/2020 21:57

Slinking back into the room, I close the kitchen at 774, slink back out.

NibbleQueen · 24/07/2020 06:48

9st11.6 today
Yesterday was pretty carby due to fruit about to go off but reasonably healthy and closed the kitchen just under 900cals

Lentil and radicchio salad + kiwi
Blueberries and greek yog
Salmon w pesto and broccoli, few squares of chocolate and half a mango
Cycled for 1hr/18km

Today am toying with the idea of an Indian takeaway. Will probs go for a chicken Jalfrezi and a salad

fufulina · 24/07/2020 07:32

I love this thread! @Kimlek I am convinced that sleep and stress impacts weight loss massively. I got a Fitbit early on in this woe / maybe week 3 - and it does this brilliant slee analysis. I must do some digging to see if there is a correlation with good losses and sleep. Of course sleep could be a marker for something else (hormones?) which are the underlying reason?

@WhatWillSantaBring hello body twin! Well done so far. What is your ultimate goal? I’ve decided to go full on aim for the weight I really want to be rather than settling. Am aiming for 65kg, which I’ve not been since I was in my twenties! I’ve just started really dropping weight again after three weeks of slow movement - it is so much more than calories in/calories out. My body was definitely ‘taking a rest’ at the lower weight and settling in to it. And in that time although weight didn’t change dramatically, my body did - bones emerging, shoulders changing shape. I think it’s fascinating.

Really interesting chat @Dinnerfor1 and @outwest about daily weighing. Totally agree that the unconscious (conscious?!) decision to stop weighing, or the day I decide not to because of a massive weekend or holiday is the day I raise the green flag on eating all the carbs. It may not happen that day, but the gates open and it starts. The self sabotage!!?? Why?!

@Justasecondnow the NHS tells me I have another inch and a half to come off my waist before I am no longer at increased risk of all sorts of stuff. Have always been an apple but just before I started this I seemed to have triggered something metabolic - my middle went off the scale! My hips were one inch bigger than my waist! Egg on legs! And oddly, my boobs - which normally deflate really quickly - haven’t deflated as much as I’d expect. Odd.

So onwards and downwards. Still doing my daily ‘religious practice’ with this thread, the book, BSD forums and noting weight, BMI and how I’m feeling. And just so delighted I started this. Must remember this feeling and not get complacent.

Have lovely weekends everyone.

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