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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet and fast800 thread 20

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 26/06/2020 10:41

Thread 20, can you believe it?

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TopCherry · 20/07/2020 14:08

Messed up at lunch, just had 100g olives, (forgot it was meant to be 40g) and a whole mozzarella and 100g of cherry tomatoes..... I'm at 780 cals already (Inc yoghurt and fruit this morning)! Oops!!! Just an avocado for tea I think!!!

CanWeComeIntoTheOutNow · 20/07/2020 14:33

Hi all. Have been listening to a meditation on Insight Timer each night. It helps me get to sleep and I think it's helping my self control around food. Despite my period starting today (and there being chocolate biscuits and buttercream iced buns in the house - thanks exh) I have managed to stick to no sugar, no refined carbs. I even wqtched my boyf eat a white chocolate Magnum and didn't steal it. Go me.

Chocolate cravings hit pretty hard this morning so I had coffee with cream which actually helped a lot. I just need to stick this bit out for a bit longer then I can get back to the 16:8 more religiously. Have been breaking the fast early for the sake of a hot drink with some milk in because I just couldn't face them black this week.

It's a progress thing. Even if I can just stay off sugar I think it'll do me favours.

WeKnowFrogsGoShaLaLaLaLa · 20/07/2020 16:08

@PhoenixMama - I break it down and do 2x22km, one after lunch and one after tea. Each takes about 35 mins/one episode of criminal minds. 😂

PhoenixMama · 20/07/2020 18:32

@NibbleQueen There is quite a complicated equation but I think generally it should be max 50g if you're looking to lose and I think a lot of people try to keep it under 40g...If I can get around 35g I always lose!

outwest · 20/07/2020 19:23

Must say haven't paid much attention to carbs and weight has still come off (though not in straight line), but maybe carbs have been naturally constrained as consequence of always using low-calorie recipes from recipe book? Probably better not to ignore carbs as I have.

Closing the kitchen at 796 cals for the day.

B: Black coffee (2)
L: Roasted Red Pepper and Squash Soup (150)
1 small slice sourdough toast (103)
Scraping of butter (74)
S: Apple (71)
Hazelnuts 10g (66!)
D: Bulgar Wheat Risotto With Chicken and Artichokes - and startling innovation of peas! (330)

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 20/07/2020 19:31

outwest I like the idea of making risotto from healthier ingredients. I quite like buckwheat, which I think isn't a grain? Tricky to cook as there's a fine line between undercooked and mushy.

outwest · 20/07/2020 19:59

@ilovemydogandmrobama2 Never tried buckwheat, but as you say many of these things, including bulgur wheat, can end up mushy very quickly... First time we tried wild rice (also not a grain) it was disaster in opposite direction, needed far more water, was essentially uncooked.

Avogato · 20/07/2020 20:21

Hi @NibbleQueen !

I’m not going to bother exercising until I can go to the gym on Saturday, so just going to stick to 800 calories using recipes from the 800 book. Had smoked salmon omelette today and don’t feel hungry (but that could be because I ate like a pig yesterday!). How about you?

Thanks @PhoenixMama for sharing your success story and massive congrats for that weight loss- that’s so impressive. I also know how hard it is to maintain as well. Thanks for the tips too

Justasecondnow · 20/07/2020 20:48

Hi all, Still on it, finding tracking everything so dull. Not actually minding sticking with diet but adding it all up. Blah.

Anyway today had:
Grilled bacon and tomatoes with a boiled egg & mushrooms
Cod and chorizo casserole
Ten pecans
Milk for tea

950 cals so a bit over, cannelloni beans in casserole so carbs prob a bit over too (see failure to count). But like outwest as most of my meals are from the BSD recipe book so low carb by default and def avoid the major culprits (flour, potatoes, rice, pasta, sugar) so I think I’m ok. I hope. Having said that I had been counting them all up before my week off so should get back in to it.

Other than that good day been out for run which was nice and burnt at least a 1000 calories with house work (not really.... but really but feels like I should have!)

And hi nibble queen after losing a stone I’m close to your weight and aiming for 9.7 so not what you were looking for I think.. but I’m fairly hopeful about losing last half stone tho!

Also hi avogato your not a final space fan by any chance?? I also use that recipe book loads. Pretty pleased with it so far.

And welcome back WeKnowFrogsGoShaLaLaLaLa your pizza topped chicken sounds nice!

Dinnerfor1 · 20/07/2020 21:34

Hi all, I’ve been lurking for a while but thought I’d finally say hello! I’ve been doing Fast800 for 13 weeks, so am currently trying to transition into 5:2 but sticking to low carb. I’ve lost 3.5 stone so far. I still have a way to go but I’ve got my bmi down from 41 to 34 which I’m really pleased about. I had a bit of a panic about my health at the start of lockdown, which kickstarted me into finally sort myself out. I’ve also been doing workout videos (weights and low impact HIIT).

outwest · 20/07/2020 23:22

Welcome @Dinnerfor1, that's good progress. Now I am in week 10, hope to have lost at least 3 stone by week 13 (currently down around 2.5 stone). Also wondering about transition/maintenance strategies...

Kimlek · 21/07/2020 01:08

Wow!!! Lots of newbies, delurkers and returners and we all seem pretty on form! Go us!
Someone asked about success stories and when there’s not much to lose. I think this way of eating works well for most people regardless of how much we have to lose. I know just on this thread that there’s a huge range of losses and goals. What’s also great is that you can tailor it to work for you and your mindset (not a cake eating mindset though). I had a go at this in 2018 and lost a stone (12 to 11) in 8 weeks, possibly quicker but reverted to wine & cake & gradually put it all back on. Restarted in Jan this year at just over 12st (5ft 6) BUT this time I wanted to go slower, steadier, less strict and make it a way of eating rather than a ‘diet’. So my focus has been more on BSD principles and much less on calorie counting although I do have weeks where I have the impetus to plan & count. At 10.2 I’m a couple of pounds away from maintaining and want to focus on keeping it off this time and it being a way of eating. So for me it’s now about staying around the 10st mark whilst upping my fitness.
@nimblequeen I’m not familiar with life-sum but it really doesn’t matter what app you use. If you’re sticking to 800 cals your carbs are likely to be low without paying too much attention. If your cals are higher than this or you’re following the principles or doing 5:2, I agree with others that if you want to lose it’s helpful to keep carbs below 50g
The podcasts sound fascinating @justanotherneighinparadise I’ll be looking into those!

Dinnerfor1 · 21/07/2020 12:18

Well for five days I’m not counting calories but am still doing TRE/ low carb. So I imagine I’m still in calorie deficit. Then for two days I’m being a bit stricter and counting to make sure I don’t go over 800. I still need to lose another 5 stone. I’m about nervous about this phase as I’ve lost 4 stone with slimming world before and then just put it all (plus more) back on.

NibbleQueen · 21/07/2020 13:26

Going on hols by the seaside next week so I expect that'll be rather wine/beer/chips/ice cream heavy. I'll be back in full force after that attempting to be lower carb as suggested... Though I'm not expecting much weight loss the first couple of weeks as I'll be offsetting holiday indulgence... Which will be SO worth it, IMO

houseRefurb · 21/07/2020 14:43

Considering adding some strength training to my exercise routine.
Have done TRX, weights etc in the past, but, with a trainer.
Anyone has any recommendations of a basic set of equipment to use at home: thinking of kettlebell, dumbell sort of thing;
Clueless about the weights to go for.

So many retailers seem to be out of stock. Any one has any recommendations on where to get these?

TIA

houseRefurb · 21/07/2020 14:45

Kimlek great to hear your experience of a second-go at this WOE.
Relate to so much of that..

TopCherry · 21/07/2020 18:21

Can I ask a question? With this diet do you loose more fast the bigger you are like other diet/ exercise regimes?

Dinnerfor1 · 21/07/2020 18:52

I would imagine that’s the case for most diets, as the larger you are, the bigger your calorie deficit will be.

outwest · 21/07/2020 21:12

Closing the kitchen at 788 (k)cals.
B: Black coffee - 2
L: Ham and cheese omelette, a favourite - 340
S: One apple - 71
D: Vietnamese Sea Bass recipe from Fast Diet Recipe book, but with much fattier salmon, so estimate much more than original 185 calories, also used much less ginger this time, big improvement - 315
Veg and salad, but no oil or butter used - 60

Hope you lot all had a good day.

WeKnowFrogsGoShaLaLaLaLa · 21/07/2020 21:25

I've done an OMAD day today, had a mixed grill lunch that was lovely. (No carbs, just meat and veg basically)

Weighing in tomorrow and expecting a maintain at best after this weeks socialising.

Hope you've all had a good day!

Kimlek · 22/07/2020 00:21

@houseRefurb I got a kettlebell the other week in Aldi (or it could be Lidl - I can never remember which one we have). Argos? Daft places like supermarkets? Some gyms & physios sell them. Or fill up some water bottles 1 litre is only 1kg though.
If I’m a static weight tomorrow I’ll be happy. Fasted til lunch which was picky bits of half avocado, quorn chicken & pecans (a lot of pecans). Then an Indian takeaway... not too bad with sag paneer and tandoori grill. But then had remainder samosa and several glasses of red wine. I didn’t even really want the samosa.... and 1 red wine would have been plenty. So, if I’ve not put on I’ll be happy. I’m definitely ambivalent about losing the last 3lbs, which is silly as my fancy scales still say subcutaneous fat a tadge high... & mirror agrees.

outwest · 22/07/2020 06:47

I’m definitely ambivalent about losing the last 3lbs

As I close in on target weight feel the old motivation is slipping a bit, in the form of ambivalence you mention. Thoughts of "Maybe this is good enough", etc. Am trying to stick to it without getting dogmatic about it...

fufulina · 22/07/2020 07:31

Hi 👋 sticking my head back in. Three camping weekends in a row done, which involved not enough sleep, not enough water (I pee in the night a few times at the best of times; outraged by a trip across a field to do so), and booze on 5 of the 6 nights away.

I stayed on the low carb plan (bar booze), and avoided all smores, ice creams, crisps, brioche etc and stayed under 1400 cals. In those three weeks I lost 1.5kg - a dramatic slow down in loss, but this morning have had a whoosh taking total loss to 16.1kg. I will finish week 12 on Sunday.

BMI is 25.9 (so close!) so the plan is to carry on with 800, TRE, no booze, no snacks, two meals a day, until I get under 72kg, which is healthy weight. Then reassess the plan for transitioning to ‘normal’ - not carbs eating, but more than 800 cals a day. The holy grail of maintenance. I’ve written out my plan for maintenance - which includes weighing myself every day. I cannot ‘see’ myself so must stay religious about letting the scales tell me. Even two and a half stone down I can’t really see THAT much difference.

I think I will try a couple of weeks of 3:4, then 4:3, then 5:2 and see what happens. By 72kg, I also have another 7kg to lose to get to goal, so I do want to carry on losing.

In non scale news my disaster area of a belly is improving. I’ve lost 8.5inches from my waist and the c-section pouch seems much better. Although it’s still total carnage - am taking that it’s all relative!

Onwards and downwards and feeling good that I can navigate holiday without falling off the wagon food-wise. That’s a massive win. The booze is another story. I think that’s my next hurdle. 5 days drinking in nearly 12 weeks and I do wonder why I bother - it’s not much fun any more. And like I used to be with carbs, one is never enough. The hangover isn’t really worth it. I’m putting that one on a Back burner to address once I’m at a healthy weight!

Have good days everyone.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 22/07/2020 07:46

Started the day with the best of intentions - got Bare Naked Noodles (which are not as disgusting as long as you add lots of flavour) and planned to grill tofu.

Ended up with half a bottle of wine, several chocolate chip cookies, several pieces of tofu and the noodles.

But somehow still 9 st 9 lbs Hmm

Getting into holiday mode as leaving on Friday to go to Scotland and will try to keep to some semblance of eating healthy.

NibbleQueen · 22/07/2020 07:51

Can I ask what folks eat when you're hungover? Had a stressful day yesterday (am selling and buying property) and had an accident involving a bottle of wine.... I'm just tucking into bacon and eggs (not very mediterranean) but I know I'll get the craving for something sweet or carby later on!

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