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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 12

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 31/07/2018 08:10

Shiny new thread for the blood sugar dieters. Info to follow.....

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 07:47

Salt i use my nutriblender and use a combination of almond milk (or any milk or ‘milk’), avocado or Greek yog for some fat, a few frozen berries, a block of frozen spinach, then I add a spoon of maca powder and a spoon of PB peanut butter powder. It comes in at around 200-300 cals so it’s definitely a meal replacement.

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NiceUnusualDifferent · 05/11/2018 08:42

Day 1, I’ve had geeek yoghurt, some raspberries and 1/2 tsp of chia seeds for breakfast. Normally have several coffees with oat milk and agave syrup but I’ve just drunk water and a peppermint & liquorice tea so far, the liquorice gives it a bit of sweetness.
Planning scrambled eggs with mushrooms & smoked salmon for lunch the dinner will be courgette, bean & bacon from the recipe book.
Weighed this morning at my heaviest since April at 11st 5lb 😮😮😮

Westwing1 · 05/11/2018 10:23

Good luck Nice. No breakfast here, kippers for lunch, big veg stir fry for dinner. Lost 2 1/2 lbs last week, drank a lot of wine over weekend, had 4 poppadoms (lentil flour) and avocado and humous dips last night which I didn't enjoy and were probably 400 kc wasted. However I have kept to it pretty well. Just need to keep going this week but with less wine. Feeling a bit flat. Will make myself go for brisk walk in fresh air.

NiceUnusualDifferent · 05/11/2018 12:29

Thanks West congratulations on the 21/2 lbs!
Felt queasy mid morning but tried to keep drinking plenty of water.
Lunch was nearly a disaster as the smoked salmon I’d bought Saturday was already out of date. Quickly put a smoked mackerel under the grill instead

fromnowhere · 05/11/2018 12:37

So day 1! Pleasantly surprised by how big the portions feel.
Had spinach and pea omelette this morning and just made the halloumi salad for lunch.i have had a couple of hot teas, but mostly just out of habit because I usually graze on snacks in the morning. This really is going to be a mental battle as I don't actually feel hungry but the urge to snack on crap is really strong! Anyone else have this problem?

fromnowhere · 05/11/2018 12:46

Thanks for the advice bear, I took my measurements yesterday. Did waist, upper thigh and upper arm as those as the bits I'm hoping will reduce! Going to weigh myself daily but do measurements weekly, fingers crossed it provides added incentive!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 13:23

From I definitely get that! Particularly when I’m tired or hormonal, and recently I’ve really struggled to ignore it. All I can say is to use it as a learning experience- you know you’re not hungry so why are you craving? Usually for me it’s because I’m bored or feeling trapped in the house (I’m a sahm and by afternoon me and Ds are getting a bit bored!), in which case it’s easier to do something else instead.

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fromnowhere · 05/11/2018 13:53

I always thought it was boredom, but recently I've started to think it's more than that. I don't know why but it's like I'm sabotaging myself by eating and bingeing. Need to work out why as I'm sick of food controlling me, I want to be in control for a change!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 14:28

From do you think it’s emotional eating? Have you taken the time to work out where this is going? As in- ‘when I’ve lost weight....’ but what does that mean? What will be different? How will you know you’ve ‘done it’? Sometimes our fear of the unknown is overwhelming, (imagine it’s like driving somewhere new and you’re not sure what the place will be like when you get there) so our animal brain compensates by seeking out our ‘normal’ (which for me, is food!) for security. The hardest bit for me has been recent months where I know eventually I’m going to need to stop dieting- but I’ve been ‘on a diet’ for 20 years! I’ve never taught myself to just eat normally, because I’ve always been either on or off a diet. I have big issues with bingeing because I have always done it and I have massive issues with food, bingeing is my security blanket.

I’ve been doing some visualisations recently, maybe that would help you? Just literally close your eyes and imagine what you’ll look like, how you’ll be when you’ve achieved your goal, and really develop the image so you can properly see it. Imagine yourself saying no to all those rubbish foods, and how amazing you look and feel. It sounds silly but it can be really beneficial.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 14:36

Sorry for the essay, but one more thing I’ll add is, you say food is controlling you- but bingeing is you. It’s your body’s way of ensuring predictability- “I’m Bear and I cannot control myself around food, and oh look, I’m totally right, there I am bingeing again”. This happens again and again and it becomes the very fundamental core of our personality, and it’s a response to other things in our environment we feel powerless over. “At least I’m right about this!”
Sorry this is a bit deep, but I find it so fascinating, and importantly it is a learned behaviour that can be changed. We just need to write a new set of rules
“ I’m Bear and I run 100 miles every month”
“I’m Bear and I can say no to chocolate” (still working on that one!)

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saltmonster · 05/11/2018 15:11

My first week results! Started 84.2kg, today, 81.6kg so a loss of 2.8!

Yes fromnowehere I definitely think its more of a mental battle when it comes down to it, breaking the old habits of a lifetime vs an actual hunger issue!

Westwing1 · 05/11/2018 15:22

Blimey Salt you must be chuffed! Well done! Good luck From.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 15:26

Woohoo salt 2.8kg? What’s that in pounds?? About 6? Nice one!

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saltmonster · 05/11/2018 15:28

Thanks!

Google says its; 6.17294 so yep six!

Feeling good, enjoying going on walks that I've began and going to try a bit of beginners yoga that I've found on youtube tonight, feels like a whole new me this week.
Know most of its water weight, but still feels a decent start and spurs me on to keep going!

onanothertrain · 05/11/2018 15:55

Well done salt
from I'm like that this time round, constantly looking in the fridge and cupboards even though I'm not hungry. In my first 8 week stint I found it easy to stick to 800 calories but struggling this time not helped by work from home half the week!
I think I found it easy because I felt fat, I knew it was only 8 weeks and there was an end in sight.

NiceUnusualDifferent · 05/11/2018 17:59

from I’ve felt like that all afternoon.

Salt that’s brilliant! Well done.

I struggled mid afternoon and some almonds and cheese have put me over, so annoyed at myself. Feel tired and headachey so going to have a bath and lay & read. Finished day 1 on 940 kcal

fromnowhere · 05/11/2018 19:00

Well done salt! That gives me hope!

Bear, I think there is a lot of emotional stuff going on with my eating habits, too much to write down here certainly. But the key thing is learning a new way of eating and habits around food. I do try and use visualisation, but then the negative self saboteur in me comes out and I binge.
I know all the reasons I need to change, I just need to get on and do it!
Anyone, thanks for the support to everyone on this thread. Day one done and I've done 850 calories. Pleased with that Smile

thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 20:14

There’s a book called ‘never binge again’, it was free on kindle recently and possibly still is, which might be helpful for you from, alongside this plan. I find that just being aware of it, and why I do it, gives me a bit more control over it (sometimes at least!)
You will also hopefully find that once you cut down the carbs, your desire to binge should fade somewhat.

I’m closing the kitchen today on 1100 cals and 52g carbs, with 18k steps (5.5km run) - which for me is a very good day! I’ve really maxed my protein today, and eaten more veg (and no cheese!) and that seems to have helped.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 20:19

And yy to the emotional eating habits- I am coming to the conclusion that I’m so screwed up around food, and it’s so tied in with my emotional state that I don’t think I’ll ever be ‘free’ of it. And it’s very sad actually, that I don’t think I want to. I get great comfort and security from calorie counting and from the feeling of success when it goes well. I know this is a very ‘unhealthy’ state of mind though. I blame mother. It’s very interesting reading the current thread about ‘can your children help themselves to food’ , there are two clear camps regarding children’s behaviour around food, and no right answer, but reading it it makes me realise how so many of our emotional connections are formed through the medium of eating!

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 05/11/2018 20:19

Can your kids help themselves to food? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3413446-Can-your-kids-help-themselves-to-food

In case anyone was interested!

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onanothertrain · 06/11/2018 18:29

Better day today, 775 calories and 40g carbs.
Does anyone have any ideas for low carb vegetarian soups??

thenewaveragebear1983 · 06/11/2018 18:59

I’m closing up the kitchen on 1400 cals Blushand 89g carbs BlushBlush- but actually everything I’ve had has been on plan (except a mini pork pie, eaten in haste, repented at leisure as it was 250 calories!!). I had some Thai spiced roasted veg for lunch which took the carbs up, and then had some Greek yogurt in an individual pot which I wrongly assumed to be 100g, when it was actually 200g! So from today we learn to always check before we eat!! Feeling good though, 18k steps again (5.5km run)

I’d like another sub 1000 day tomorrow, which is totally possible, because my Dm is visiting and I find it much easier not to graze when I have company all day. Will sit tonight and plan my whole days food out including a snack so I don’t get caught out.

Re; soups- I don’t know really, I don’t eat them as I am absolutely rubbish at making soup. It never ever ends up delicious, always watery. I have had lentil and veg before which was nice, Or pea and mint? (But be mindful of carbs)

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fromnowhere · 06/11/2018 19:10

I'll see if I can find that book about bingeing bear, I definitely think it helps to try and be objective about it all and try to understand the why.

Had a good day so far, got to get home and have dinner yet, but feeling positive I'm going to come in under 800 today. Surprisingly haven't had any cravings for carbs today, don't believe I've beaten the addiction that quickly though, perhaps I'm yet to be properly tested!

Haven't tried any soups yet onanother but keen to batch cook some and keep in the freezer as an antidote to hunger when I get the munchies! I do find carrot soups a bit depressing, perhaps there are some nice mushroom ones to be had?

fromnowhere · 06/11/2018 19:13

On another note what does everyone do about bad breath? I find not eating for a few hours gives me terrible breath. Been having loads of sugar free gum today but I feel like that's not a great solution. Should I be chewing on mint leaves or something? Confused

thenewaveragebear1983 · 06/11/2018 19:23

From is it like a ‘pear drops’ sort of taste/smell? If so, you could be in ketosis? I find I get a stale dry taste in my mouth, but it’s almost always because I haven’t drunk enough water. Sugar free gum is ok but you might find the sweetener makes you crave more sweet stuff?

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