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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 12

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 31/07/2018 08:10

Shiny new thread for the blood sugar dieters. Info to follow.....

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GingerAndTheBiscuits · 24/09/2018 20:57

I think my problem is texture rather than taste. I could feel my stomach turning over at the thought of eating the yoghurt Confused I have issues, ha! I love pretty much all veg though so it’s no hardship filling up on that. Yesterday was poached eggs on spinach with some No Bull veggie sausages (low carb, high protein, 95cal for two) and dinner was Vivera veggie “steak” with cremefraiche and red wine sauce, steamed spinach, asparagus and green beans. It was lush. Today was soup for lunch and found some leftover skinny chilli in the freezer from my last attempt at BSD, with cauliflower rice, half an avocado and some feta. Have planned meals for the week to try and keep on top of things. Dinners are easy, it’s just lunches I need to work on - some of the salads at the start of this thread look like they’ll hit the mark

thenewaveragebear1983 · 24/09/2018 21:04

That all sounds yummy ginger. I like the sound of those sausages too. I’m assuming you are vegetarian then?

I sometimes wish I didn’t like yogurt, I can honestly eat it by the tub full! You could always have a tbsp double cream on your fruit?

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GingerAndTheBiscuits · 24/09/2018 21:14

I like the yoghurt part (preferably over chopped bananas and chocolate chips - d’oh!) just not the fruit! Yep, veggie here so meat options unavailable but most meat replacements are low carb

thenewaveragebear1983 · 24/09/2018 21:37

You’ll be fine without the fruit I’m sure, as long as you’re getting your veggies. You can still have apples? I take a multivitamin to compensate for the lack of vitamins from eating virtually no fruit. When I do eat it, it feels like such a sweet treat, although over the summer I started eating it too often and it did set off my sugar cravings.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 25/09/2018 21:17

Another ok day for me, I didn’t calorie count again, but to be honest I barely ate until about 5 as we desperately needed shopping and I had the dc off school poorly! I ended up having 2 babybel for breakfast, a frozen portion of casserole for lunch, and then fish with lentils and peas for dinner. Some yogurt and frozen fruit, and then while watching bake off I’ve had a small piece of cheese and some oatcakes. I’d hazard a guess at 1200 cals today, which is ok.

I feel rotten to be honest, horrible glandular pain in my neck and chest and half expect to be quite unwell tomorrow! I have done 13k steps (5.5km run). I might dare a cheeky weigh in tomorrow, I will be very interested to see if my week of trusting my appetite has worked or whether I have gained. I don’t know whether I will continue with not counting cals- I have enjoyed the freedom of it in a way, but I miss the security of it. (I suppose the proof will be in the weigh in, no point doing something that makes me put weight on!)

Tomorrow I am planning to run first thing again, although that will depend on how I feel. I’m having joe wicks lamb and coconut curry for dinner, lunch will be eggs and smoked salmon.

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onanothertrain · 25/09/2018 21:53

I'm away for work for a few days and really struggled for dinner tonight at the airport. Had a vege burger and chips but didn't eat the bun or all the chips. I'm guessing 1200 calories or there abouts. Not sure on the carbs....
Hope tomorrow is better!!

IJustWantToWearDungarees · 26/09/2018 12:11

Sorry to hear you are feeling pants bear. I think it is much harder being ill when you are on a diet - you can't even have comfort food to make you feel better!

I have had a thoroughly awful week. Weighed in today (end of week three) and I have lost nothing at all. I have had a couple of small blips ( a couple of Lotus biscuits) but nothing major so I am incredibly disappointed. I have felt absolutely ravenous on just 800 calories, too, and very weak. I have been having a nap in the middle of the day most days, just to get me through. Was so upset after getting on the scales that I immediately ate a bagel - which of course I now hugely regret. V cross with myself.

To make matters worse, I have started my period again - the second in three weeks. I guess maybe my hormones aren't used to it yet? I am seeing my consultant later so I might ask his advice - if I can't lose weight on 800 calories, what else can I do? V miserable today. 🙁

wowfudge · 26/09/2018 12:12

Don't be disheartened - are you counting absolutely everything you eat or drink and weighing foods when you prep meals?

wowfudge · 26/09/2018 12:15

I've started BSD again properly after trying and failing to get back into it earlier in the year.

Any suggestions for a 250 calories lunch please? I had chicken, mixed salad and houmous yesterday. Medium sized supermarket round the corner from work and tea all sorted for later.

wowfudge · 26/09/2018 12:17

Might as well get all my posts in in one hit! A chopped apple in yoghurt is a great way of adding bulk, sweetness and vitamins without too many cals. The book says to steer clear of melon and tropical fruits I think.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 26/09/2018 14:39

Wowfudge welcome back. Do you want a lunch to make at home and take, or to buy out? From home I would do a huge salad, feta cheese, a bit of dressing (but don’t Dress it in advance or the vinegar will cook your salad!), maybe a hard boiled egg? For lunch out, I don’t know- do m&s do some lovely salads? Or somewhere like pret?

Dungarees that’s rubbish and sorry you’re feeling so disheartened. I would chat it through with your consultant, but be prepared for them to tell you you’re in starvation mode from eating 800 calories- they will likely advise you against doing this diet because it’s hugely misunderstood. In terms of suggestions for you, I don’t know. Would you like to post a day’s food so we can maybe advise? However, if you are achieving 800 (or even if exceeding it a bit) then that alone should result in some weight loss in 3 weeks. So I’m a bit stumped! I would never advise someone continue with this plan if they are a) miserable, or b) hungry all the time or c) not losing weight, so I’m not just going to cajole you and say ‘stick with it’. If you want to continue the diet, in the meantime, why not do a bit of a ‘re-feed’; as in, don’t count calories, but cut out all the foods that aren’t on the plan, and have as much meat, eggs, cheese, salad etc as you want for a few days. Reset yourself a bit, read the book again, and then start over fresh in a few days- just to break the feeling of being so disheartened as that must be making it very difficult.

I’d maintained when I weighed this morning, which is ok, but I have to admit I thought I may have lost a pound or two. I’m due on on Friday/Saturday, and normally I’d be an eating monster by now, so I am definitely feeling more in control than usual this week, as I haven’t been grazing at all. Today I’ve been struggling a bit just with temptation more than anything- I’m like
‘Oooh cake’
‘No!’
Two seconds later
‘Ooooh bread’
‘No’
And I’ve done this probably 50 times today already. It takes a lot of mental energy to keep saying no and to keep having the same very dull conversation with myself, but I will persevere!

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wowfudge · 26/09/2018 15:10

I got a tofu bento box from Waitrose - had rice in it but calorie wise was 280 and the best of what they had left. If I have kale with salmon for tea, that should keep the calories and carbs down.

wowfudge · 26/09/2018 15:11

My mother suggested I might like some of her old smart work clothes. That was the encouragement I needed to get back on it!!

IJustWantToWearDungarees · 26/09/2018 22:09

Thanks bear and fudge - sorry for the wallowing this morning! I have had a day of complete self sabotage but I will be getting back to it tomorrow. Am determined to give this a good go without giving up completely.

Your prediction was right, bear - I was told that 800 calories was too drastic and I should maybe trying Slimming World instead. To be fair, one of my issues was fatigue, which is a side effect of my illness, and they made the point that my energy is likely to be lower if my calorie intake is lower, which I kind of get. I am going to stick with BSD for the next few weeks and hope that this is just a blip, though.

Because I am not confident with it yet, all of our meals have been coming from the BSD book. So, a typical day might be:
Breakfast: spinach and pea omelette
Lunch: beans with Worcestershire sauce and handful of mozarella
Dinner: halloumi and courgette kebabs

We are weighing absolutely everything, and my husband is losing loads - he has already lost more than a stone. I am wondering if the return of my period is just massively skewing my results, and when it finishes I might have another big drop? I have lost three inches around my waist and nine pounds in total since I started, so it's not all bad news - just dispiriting to have seen no movement this week.

Thanks so much for this thread - it is really great to have somewhere to offload and ask advice. Smile

thenewaveragebear1983 · 26/09/2018 22:29

Dungarees. It is low. Ideally, you’ll feel energised from not having sugar highs and lows, and you’ll sleep better etc, but if you’re feeling very hungry there is no harm whatsoever in having more calories of BSD food. It’s only meant to be 8 weeks for a reason, and after the 2 months your Dh will also need to increase his calories. You could go 5:2, or have a ‘no count’ day on the weekend?

FWIW- I increased my calories allowance about 3 weeks ago, and have increased my carbs (still only from the ‘allowed foods’ in the books, but introducing oats some days, squash, etc.) And it’s had no noticeable effect on my weight but oh my, do I feel better. I haven’t binged either, so I bet my overall weekly calories are pretty similar, but I feel like I’m doing it properly not failing every day. Its a marathon not a sprint, so maybe an increase will give you a bit of a boost? If it’s the right foods, you won’t gain weight. I always retain loads of water when I’m due on as well, so maybe it’s that.

Please don’t do slimming world. It’s the worst possible diet for insulin resistants like us- unlimited carbs, fruit, sweetener......

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onanothertrain · 26/09/2018 22:38

Done not too bad today. Scrambled egg and mushrooms for breakfast, goats cheese salad lunch and curry without rice for dinner. No idea on calories or carbs but hopefully not too bad and loads of walking too

IJustWantToWearDungarees · 26/09/2018 22:47

You're right, bear, I think I will just increase my calories for a bit but without resorting to sugar and crap. I really don't want to do SW at all - the low fat, sugary foods have never really appealed - they seem v artificial. I will persevere! 😀

wowfudge · 27/09/2018 15:37

Had a chocolate-related blip this morning, but just had a good lunch of salad, ham and roasted artichokes which was fab for just under 250 cals. Luckily I hadn't had breakfast so I won't go over the calories. Definitely going to remain a blip!

wowfudge · 27/09/2018 16:12

Dungarees you can do SW without all of that - if you read the books they give you it's all in there.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 27/09/2018 16:25

You can do SW, and it can be successful, and you don’t have to eat muller lights and sugar free jelly and all that- but it would be very hard to do that and try and follow BSD principles. For a start, SW is a low fat plan, so all your syns would go on fat very quickly (9 cals per gram of fat, no fats are free on SW, so you could probably use all 15 syns on maybe 30g fat each day)- BSD works because of the high fat/low carb balance and unfortunately SW doesn’t accommodate that.
SW has its benefits, and it could be the right plan for you- I did it for years and did eventually lose a few stone- but it isn’t BSD compatible.

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wowfudge · 27/09/2018 17:21

Actually, the old SW red days wouldn't be bad as far as BSD is concerned.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 27/09/2018 18:37

Well after last nights weird joe wicks curry, I was sceptical of his Italian sausage ragu, but it was blooming lovely. Love those heck chicken sausages as well, they were very tasty!

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 29/09/2018 21:48

Quiet in here this week, hope everyone’s ok?

Planned day off for me, it’s ds’s birthday today so party food and birthday cake and wine a-plenty. Dh’s birthday tomorrow and we’re going out for a meal- probably meal will be ok but wine/dessert/birthday cake again.

Then- 4 really good days back in plan to hopefully lose the weekend bloat, before cruising next weekend!

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onanothertrain · 29/09/2018 23:10

Good here. Survived being away with work without too much damage. Also started ripped in 30 today, think I definitely need to keep the exercise up.
Enjoy your wine bear

wowfudge · 29/09/2018 23:35

Had lunch with friends in a Mitchell’s and Butler pub today - they do cauliflower couscous in a few dishes which means they work for the BSD.

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