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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood Sugar Diet thread 11

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 03/06/2018 07:56

Here’s the new thread for the BSD followers. Everyone is welcome to join us. Here’s a quick recap!

The BSD is a low carb, Mediterranean style way of eating, with the primary aim of stabilising your insulin response when you eat. You achieve this by: eating fewer carbs, cutting out sugar and sweet tasting foods including most fruit, and by following a low calorie plan that reduces your visceral fat meaning that everything functions more effectively. Less insulin means less fat storage (in a nutshell, although more info can be found on this online). The diet was designed to reduce T2 diabetes symptoms (or even reverse it entirely) but can also be used for weightloss.

Eat:
Meats and fish
Oils
Eggs
Full fat dairy products
Nuts, seeds
Pulses/ beans
Veg that grows above ground
Limit fruit: apples, pears, berries- in moderation, with meals, with fats

Occasional alcoholic drinks allowed (spirits, red wine are preferable to beer, lager, etc)
Tea and coffee, herbal tea etc.
And water- drink lots of water!

Avoid
sugar, sweets, and ‘naturally occurring sugars’ such as fructose, maltose, honey, agave, puréed dates etc....

Potatoes of any variety
Pasta
Rice
Breakfast cereals (occasional steel cut oats are ok)
Breads/ flour based products

Exercise:
Michael Moseley recommends HIIT workouts to increase calorie burn and help to tone up, and recommends walking more (increasing your steps weekly until you hit around 10000 a day)

Mindfulness
MM also suggests a programme of mindfulness, meditation, practised for a few minutes each day.

How to follow the plan:
8 weeks BSD- 8 weeks, follow the guidelines above- 800 calories a day. You don’t need to count carbs grams because the diet is naturally self limiting.
BSD 5:2- for a more leisurely weightloss journey, or as maintenance, or once you’ve done an 8 week stint, you can play around with a combination of increased calorie count, ‘free eating’ and fasting days (800 cals) until you achieve your goals. Many of our long standing members now follow this approach.

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APlaceAtTheBSDTable · 19/07/2018 14:02

Happy birthday bear ! Your dedication to BSD and exercising this last year has been amazing and inspirational. Have a lovely time celebrating with your family Flowers

I have fallen completely off the BSD wagon. We get the keys for our new house tomorrow so I should be packing everything up ready for the move but my DB was diagnosed with cancer at the end of last week and I'm devastated. There's no doubt I'm an emotional eater because I have dived into eating tonnes of rubbish. Logically I know that going up a dress size will make me even more unhappy so for the umpteenth time this year, I'm going to restart BSD either tomorrow or next week.

I'm going to catch up on the thread now.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 19/07/2018 15:35

Oh place, sorry to hear about your brother. Flowers I can imagine moving house is last thing on your mind too. Sending you best wishes.

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ChocEggNoThanks · 19/07/2018 16:26

Dear Place so sorry to hear about your brother ❤ Be kind to yourself at the minute. It's great that you recognise the tendency to comfort eat and that weight gain will make a bad situation worse but sometimes it's a necessary evil when the shit is hitting the fan. In that situation I would probably allow myself a 'controlled binge' rather than just hoovering up everything in sight. So I would have 2 packs of crisps but not gobble all the crisps in the house if that makes sense. Do what you need to do until things settle and look after yourself.

abitoflight · 19/07/2018 16:56

DK if everyone else is doing this already but going to try roast radishes over the weekend
I'd never thought of cooking them but apparently v tasty and can also be braised or pan roasted

Seasidedreamer · 19/07/2018 21:31

So sorry to hear your news place. That’s really tough. I’d get the house move over with and then try and get back on track. I’m an emotional eater too, it’s so hard to control at times.

Hope you’ve had a great birthday bear

Closing the kitchen at 778 cals/ 68g carbs. Still very hot here and struggled a bit today. Treated myself to some of the Oppo ‘healthy’ ice cream though- delicious. Not sure of its BSD credentials but no nasties in the ingredients and tasted decadent. I had the chocolate and hazelnut (think Nutella- ish but not sickly) 80cals, 9.9g carbs, 5.1g sugar per 100ml. Had a bit of a job to track it down but the stockists are all listed on the Oppo website.

Hope everyone has had a good day.

Snowglobes · 19/07/2018 23:12

Oh place that’s awful! Sending huge hugs!!

Oblomov18 · 20/07/2018 07:20

Sorry to hear that Place. Cut yourself some slack, and just get back on it, after house move etc.

veryveryquietly · 20/07/2018 07:25

Oh place congrats on the house but very sorry to hear about your brother. I hope it's a type that is manageable and that the treatment is one of the less brutal ones. Agree with everyone above, please just be nice to yourself and don't worry about BSDing unless it is a worthwhile distraction.

veryveryquietly · 20/07/2018 07:29

Messy day yesterday, did very well until 7 pm, then ate some Haribo. Scary how many calories even a small package has.

Somehow another lb down this morning though, which I will not question but happily accept.

I do see a light at the end of the tunnel re: work stress in next few weeks though, and hopefully stress-eating will reduce as well.

ponygirlcurtis · 20/07/2018 08:19

Sorry to hear about your brother, Place. Flowers If you can, fill yourself up with tasty, nourishing foods but if you can't then don't worry about it. You have other things to think about right now.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 20/07/2018 09:24

Little post-day-off weigh in this morning, and I’ve managed to maintain, which is good. To be fair, my food was all BSD friendly yesterday, so it’s only the cake and wine I was over, and even then I showed restraint! Now it’s 2 weeks tomorrow until we go away so I am all geared up for 2 strict weeks- and if I’m still plateaued after that, I’m calling target. I’m thinking realistically if I maintain at this weight despite dieting hard, and also despite having some treats, then I might be better to accept that, than push for another 4-5lbs off that’s going to be a challenge to achieve and maintain. We’ll see....

I have some new running trainers and a running book so I’m going to use my treadmill today to start doing some speed training to mix up my workouts!

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Snowglobes · 21/07/2018 04:05

bear I’m going to be devils advocate and ask why you think 4/5lb loss would make a difference. 10st 5/6lb is good. You’re a size 8/10, which is slim. Many moons ago I was size 8/10 - I was slim but never fit. You run. A LOT. So are fit, not just slim. Do you not think you are setting yourself up? Addicted to weight loss? Pushing & pushing? Can you accept a size 8/10 that’s fitter than ever & has a good grip of food, nutrients and sensible eating? Do you not think (or even recognise) that you’ve made it? You should be applauding yourself!! I’m applauding you. In my mind you’ve made it. I want to be bear.

Lallypopstick · 21/07/2018 06:42

I've had a couple of off plan meals over the last few days, including pizza last night. Frustrated at myself not least because I feel really dehydrated and slept terribly afterwards.

Back on track today. Will be Week 5 of the plan on Sunday.

Lallypopstick · 21/07/2018 06:43

Place so sorry to hear about your brother.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 21/07/2018 07:02

Snow yep, everything you’ve said there is correct! It’s only a number, I know; I could weigh myself on different scales and be 5lbs heavier or lighter anyway! It’s just a personal goal I’ve set myself that I want to achieve, and I fully admit that I probably sound quite unhealthy about it. I could understand if I was dangerously skinny but I’m not, my bmi is 23.5. I think I am a bit addicted to weight loss, or rather addicted to having that little bit of control over something. I’m a lifelong habitual dieter from a family of habitual dieters, and I’m the only one of us who is actually slim! Not sure where I’m going with this really, just rambling....

But anyway- your words are very kind, we are our own worst critics aren’t we? Quite frankly I’m a bit scared to take my eye off the ball too much, and the uncertainty of maintenance concerns me a bit, whereas losing is prescriptive- do this, and this will should happen. I’m not sure what I’ll do going forward, but with the school holidays stretching ahead it’s quite likely that I’ll gain a little over the time anyway.

When I started this, it was my third attempt at BSD- and I promised myself a year. A year of regular exercise, following the diet, and see where I ended up, so in that respect I’m not done yet. I’m still learning, and with regards to the running I have barely scratched the surface of what there is to know- I wonder if maybe next year my focus will be more on improving my performance and entering races/runs rather than my food.

But anyway snow- what are you doing up at 4am?! Are you still on holiday?

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TheAmazingShrinkingWoman · 21/07/2018 07:22

Hello. I'm still here. Managing some days, not managing others. Maintaining this week which is a miracle. Very busy at work and home. Bit low. Cannot wait for the end of term!

DandelionAndBedrock · 21/07/2018 08:43

Be kind to yourself, Place.

I had such a frustrating evening yesterday. A really good day avoiding all the end of year cakes and treats at work, but then my gym class was cancelled and my evening plans fell through and DP was out so...I sat on the sofa and ate a LOT of chocolate. More chocolate was consumed in those 3 hours than the last 3 months put together. I felt bloated and cross with myself, and still do this morning. Especially because I was so close to another milestone loss.

It’s my first big slip up since starting, and we go on holiday next week, so I’m hoping it is the shock I need so that I behave myself when we go away.

Bear I completely understand what you mean with your running. I’m starting to get good at some gym classes I couldn’t do before and that sense of achievement is addictive.

Snowglobes · 21/07/2018 13:44

bear - I understand. We just need to remember to congratulate ourselves don’t we. Here’s to you achieving your personal goal of an extra 5lbs!!! I also think your kids are benefitting hugely too!
unfortunately we fly home today so back Sunday am. Been a fab holiday but shocking BSD wise. We’re returning to building work albeit the kitchen will be intact for a while. I need to make sure we don’t pack away scales (food or body)!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 21/07/2018 16:55

Dandelion me too. I was good all day and then ate quite a few Thornton’s chocolates which really were not very nice. They tasted very greasy and had no depth of flavour. Obviously I ate several, just to check Hmm

This morning- a nice 10km run on my current favourite route which has 3 hilly sections of at least 1km each uphill. It’s a real punishment run! Weighed in after that at 10.4.8 which is pretty good, although I always weigh less after running so is probably not a true weigh in. Today- lots of BSD food but no calorie counting, and tonight Dh and I are out for our anniversary/birthday meal so I’d imagine a few cocktails and probably dessert will be taken on!

And then back to it- 13 days til holiday. I’m going to try my back to basics, hide the scales, weigh and track everything strategy as that seems to be the way I keep on the straight and narrow most effectively, and if anyone else is up for a few weeks of strict BSD-Ing that will definitely be encouraging! Menu partly planned already but I need to do the calorie counts - and that’s it. Sounds so simple doesn’t it??!

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DandelionAndBedrock · 21/07/2018 18:31

I’ve just had a wardrobe clear out and a shopping trip, which prompted some before and after photos. I was also very brave and, for the first time, went back to my pre-BSD diet taken the night before I started, wearing my underwear. Put it next to a photo after spin this morning and am feeling a bit better about myself.

Going to reward my medium/long term efforts with a gin and sparkling water, I think. We’ll ignore the short term mishap.

Seasidedreamer · 21/07/2018 20:33

Had a reasonable couple of days. Ended up unexpectedly at Carluccios for dinner last night - they had some really good BSD friendly options. I’ve also tried to up my fibre by including more pulses/ beans. I do find them filling and easy to include.

I also have had a wardrobe clear out and bought some new makeup. Hasn’t half lifted my spirits. I applaud you Dandelion for taking proper before photos. I avoid the camera at all costs but have started looking at myself with a bit more attention and reminding myself how lucky I am to be fully functioning!

Good luck for the next 10 days Bear. You’ve done amazingly well. Be kind to yourself! I’m also from a family of constant dieters so I understand where you’re coming from.

Anyway- start of week 5 for me tomorrow but going on holiday to the south coast for 9 days on Wednesday. Hopefully (and fingers crossed) because we are self catering i’ll be able to stay on the relative straight and narrow.

Snowglobes · 21/07/2018 20:41

Sat at airport lounge eating rubbish and drinking wine! I’m definitely up for a very strict few weeks/months bear!! Please post your plan. I love all the recipes & ideas.
I haven’t taken any before or after photos but bravely donned a bikini on holiday and now rapidly deleting all the photos I’m in!!! Blush

DandelionAndBedrock · 21/07/2018 20:55

Snow don’t delete them!! Keep at least one, even if you don’t look at it for a while. It has been 3 months since I took mine and I am so glad.

I didn’t take measurements because I was too ashamed and I regret that now.

Under good old internet anonymity I am happy to post my before and after, although the before pic is in my bra and pants. Is that allowed?

veryveryquietly · 21/07/2018 21:30

OK day, 924 cals, 50 gr carbs, so happy enough with that.

KevinTheYuccaPlant · 21/07/2018 22:11

Very sorry about your brother, place Flowers

bear thank you for the advice to up the carbs a bit, I now feel much less like murdering people Grin Today was the first day I didn't see a change on the scales (they only measure in whole lbs over 10 stone), but given I'm 7lbs down in 5 days, I'm not going to complain.

Just slightly over 800 calories today and yesterday, but only by 20 or so, and average is 783. I'm managing to drink more and am feeling less hungry as a result.

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