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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 9

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 18/01/2018 20:16

Shiny new thread for the blood sugar dieters!

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veryveryquietly · 10/02/2018 14:05

Woo good such determination in the face of tasty beigeness winky ! Go you!

Londonista I am also freezing. Always. Multivitamins helped, but I read somewhere it's common with this and sim diets. I'm hoping spring will help...if it ever comes.

winkywinkybumbum · 10/02/2018 14:59

Bear just noticed your post. Sorry I missed and then gloated Blush

thenewaveragebear1983 · 10/02/2018 17:41

That’s ok winky! It’s nice to hear success stories, it keeps me motivated. It’s my dinner party tonight so I am semi-off plan, plus I had intended to make a sugar free version of my dessert but I forgot. So looks like I’ll be indulging tonight and then regretting tomorrow!!

Yes to being freezing by the way, I often wake in the night feeling a bit chilly. I do take a multivitamin with iron, because after my first round I did feel quite depleted and got an absolutely stinking bout of laryngitis which I did think was as a result of cutting out fruit and having such low calories. Every subsequent round I have taken a daily multivitamin as a precaution.

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bridgetreilly · 10/02/2018 21:35

I have been taking multivitamins too, and I think it's a good idea. When you're cutting down your diet so much, it would be easy to suddenly become deficient in something.

I've been a bit cold, but mostly because it is FREEZING, rather than because of the diet, I think.

veryveryquietly · 11/02/2018 19:01

Hope your dinner party was lovely bear

Made the pancetta, broccoli and tomato gratin from the BSD recipe book (not the diet book, but the book of additional recipes). Very moreish but I have dutifully divvied it up and put the excess servings in containers for lunches this week.

(Basically, it is the following for 4 servings: chop up into florets a head of cauliflower and a head of broccoli. Steam or boil both briefly, so still crunchy but softer. Saute 100 g chopped pancetta. Put the veg in a casserole. Sprinkle the pancetta on top. Mix 100g each of soft cheese and creme fraiche, 1 tsp mustard, 50 g grated cheddar, 2 chopped spring onions, and some cayenne, and spread on top as best you can. Top with sliced tomato. Sprinkle with parmesan and Munchy seeds. Bake it until you can resist the cheesy smells no more.)

In other news, I may now be addicted to chili-flavoured Munchy seeds.

veryveryquietly · 11/02/2018 19:07

bridget thanks for the Tesco scouting. The antipasti and the pork meatballs sound delish, esp with some ready roast veg. Sound like great things to have on hand for can't-stand-to-cook days.

ICJump · 11/02/2018 19:35

Well I’m 8.5 kilos down after 4 weeks!

I had a silly food day yesterday where I didn’t add everything up so I over ate massively. On the plus side last week I hit my goal of 5 active days a week in Fitbit! I’ve also increased my step goal to 10000.

I’ve brought some new flavour shakes for breakfast. As I was so bored of the one I was having. The new vanilla one is gross and more calories and I feel less full :(

User5trillion · 11/02/2018 19:39

I am planning on starting after pancake day and doing this for lent. I have low carbed before and attempted the bsd, but it didnt stick! I have been trying and failing at dieting since new year and enough is enough. Still not lost my baby weight and ds is 5! 15.5st and nearly 40Sad plus short.

I am planning on skipping breakfast - as it just makes me hungry and I am used to it.
For ease I was planning on having a small portion (100g) ff greek yog and 25g of hm low carb granola - its very filling.
Then for dinner make soups- during the week atleast, I love soup. Then I will have a low carb protein shake after my evening exercise.

On weekends I will probably cook a low carb meal as I will be sick of soup by then.

Last time what threw me on bsd was the weighing, counting and recipe planning. I totally over thought it and got myself in a right tizz. I am currently not drinking and don't take milk on my 8! Coffees a day, I do get used to drinking lots of water just havent been.

How does that sound as a plan? Oh experienced ones? Wink

thenewaveragebear1983 · 11/02/2018 19:48

It’s all gone a bit wrong for me this weekend! Too much wine, not enough willpower. I dragged myself onto the treadmill and later we went out for a walk, so my steps are up, but my other weekend resolutions like actually sticking to plan have not exactly happened. Today I’ve not counted calories but have had low carbs, and I’ll be starting again tomorrow. I don’t think I managed a single day at 800 calories last week, and certainly my average calorie intake is way over 800. I feel very bloated and quite uncomfortable.

For the week going forward, I’m going to keep with my shakes for brunch, and have the bulk of my calories for dinner. I haven’t Meal planned as such because I am hoping to use up some freezer stocks, in a bid to save money. Luckily I do have quite a variety of frozen portions, but unfortunately not all of them are calorie counted so my totals might be a bit inaccurate.

Have a great week ahead everyone!

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veryveryquietly · 11/02/2018 20:15

Hurrah IC pretty fab!

ElanorGamgee · 11/02/2018 20:24

Bloody brilliant IC 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.

bridgetreilly · 11/02/2018 23:54

User5, it sounds like a lot of liquid and not much 'real food' to me. I get you about all the weighing and counting, so my recommendation would be to use the recipe book, or just work out a couple of easy to cook meals that aren't soup. Stirfries are easy, quick and full of good things. Or omelettes. I'd worry that you wouldn't be getting enough protein and fat to feel full and stay healthy.

User5trillion · 12/02/2018 00:12

Thanks bridge, I was planning on making soups with coconut milk for the fat and use home made stock. Having lchf ed for a while I always add chicken or chorizo or bacon plus green veg like leeks, broccoli and cauliflower to make it substantial. I make a hearty soup! I have the cook book and will use that for weekend meals. Between cooking for the family and working it seemed the easiest and laziest way of keeping under the calories.
I don't eat eggs but love a stirfry, good tip thanks

bridgetreilly · 12/02/2018 10:00

Oh good. Protein and fat in the soups sounds like an excellent plan.

londonista · 12/02/2018 10:10

More disappointment this week at weigh in, as expected. I'm only 3 pounds down in a week. 2 weeks in and I've lost 8 pounds.

I had high hopes though for more, as I'd been following the plan to the letter. I haven't had a single day where I've gone over 800, and yesterday for instance I was 650 cals. I am definitely weighing and calculating everything correctly - even the celery I weigh!

I am feeling so despondent with this now. I am going to stick with it because even if I lose just 1-2 pounds a week that's still something, and at the end of the 8 weeks I might have lost a stone, which will be good. It is so discouraging though, as it's quite an extreme diet, and all that crap he goes on about in the book, I was expecting something more significant.

I'm sort of aware how bonkers I sound - a loss is a loss, I know. Just, I feel like it's a lot of sacrifice, I'm pretty much constantly hungry.

I don't think it's the diet, I know me and my fat are very good friends, I am always a slow loser, if I lose 5 more pounds I will be at my 'median' weight, the weight I've been for most of my adult life. I never ever seem to be able to get beneath that weight, so sticking to this plan might push me past it.

Anyway, onwards and upwards. Hope everyone has a good week.

APlaceAtTheBSDTable · 12/02/2018 10:41

londonista try changing your eating window to see if that helps. Also check your measurements. You may be losing inches rather than weight.
I'm still struggling after my fall. I haven't been able to walk much at all. I'm bored and feeling sorry for myself so have been eating rubbish. Probably averaging about 950 cals but all the wrong type. If I've managed to maintain this week, I'll count that as a victory.
bear was your dinner party fun? Having a good night is worth a BSD wobble, I think. Flowers

londonista · 12/02/2018 11:02

@aplaceatthe BSDtable yes you're right, I do feel better, and a lot less blobby. I have been doing a lot of weights classes as well, as I always worry about losing muscle, not just fat when I diet, so it's going to be slow for me.
I am carrying on, will see if changing my schedule helps.

Oblomov18 · 12/02/2018 11:32

Morning everyone.
I'm starting again. I'm going to really try.

I spoke to my best friend and she's been doing this since last summer, has lost 3 stone, has completely given up all carbs, and all sugar. She finds this really easy and is only eating 2 meals a day. Sometimes only 1 meal. Which new Doctors, based on Mosley, are recommending, like a stricter version of 16:8, so you are only eating in a very small time window.

Well. Anyway. I'm dead impressed. And jealous. She finds it really easy. I find it very hard.

But I'm going to give it another go. Try and be strict.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 12/02/2018 11:49

Morning all,
Thanks place, yes it went well. The food was delicious so was the wine but I was hugely penalised on the scales this morning as I was showing 4lb up! Now I know I did eat a lot and did have some sugar, but I did not have 12k extra calories! So I’d imagine at least some of that is water. However, the numbers are important to me so it was bloody annoying to see them back up again.

Oblomov good to see you back!

Londonista I agree with moving your meals around, it can give you a kick start. The other thing I would suggest is to really look at your food intake. Sometimes it’s really not enough to just calorie count- as in, too many carbs, not enough fat, too much protein (you can calculate your optimum protein intake online) can all skew the weight loss for some BSDers. Are you drinking plenty of water too? I have every sympathy because this plan is tough enough, without the added pain of disappointing weigh ins. It will show though; you sound like you’re doing the right things. Do you have much weight to lose? Could it be water retention or totm?

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 12/02/2018 12:01

Saw these in tesco by the way- 100 cals. They do have raisins and dried apricots in but I shuffled all the packets to find the ones that looked like they had the fewest in! They only have 3 or 4 in each pack anyway. I thought they would be good to keep to hand as an emergency snack.

Blood sugar diet thread 9
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londonista · 12/02/2018 12:02

Thanks Bear. Yes I am thinking it might be a combo of wrong foods.
I eat about 3-400 cals of veges, 2-300 of meat, and about 100 cals of skim milk every day. So could be fat I guess, getting hardly any of that.
I am literally hungry every waking minute, even after I've eaten I feel hungry almost immediately. Second week was better than the first, so am hoping it will start to fade.

I am taking heart from your example of getting back on plan. I've got a big 'foodie' weekend this weekend and I'm going to allow myself a day off plan this Saturday. Hoping I can get back on course the following day and carry on. I need this. I'm currently 14st 4lb, so yes, got quite a bit to lose. If I could get down to 13 stone, I'd still be overweight (i'm 5'8") but within reach of a healthier lifestyle. I need to do this for my boys, they need their mum/wife!

Oblomov18 · 12/02/2018 12:17

Yes, Londista, I am frozen all the time. My best friend said she had been too.

Mind you, even if not on this BSD, it has been very very dark and grim recently hasn't it? All my friends (on Saturday night) over a bottle of red, said they had a bit of SAD, because its just been so miserable weather wise recently.

Likes look of Bridget's Tesco stuff.

And I like the sound of Very Very's munchy seeds with cayenne. Which Munchy seeds are you using?

Well done IC.

London, don't be despondent. I suspect you might get a 'rush'.

bridgetreilly · 12/02/2018 12:18

Londonista, 8lbs in two weeks is still pretty great! And although you feel like you've got quite a bit to lose, I think you're a lot lighter than those of us who've had much bigger losses. I started at 17'6, for instance. If you stick with it at the current rate, you'll have lost over 2 stone in 8 weeks. That's awesome.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 12/02/2018 12:19

It sounds like you need to increase your fat, especially if you are hungry all the time. You need to eat fat to burn fat, oddly. Do you carb count? The reason I ask is because I don’t, not actively anyway, but I stick to a rule of: no pasta, rice, potatoes, grains or sugar. If I do this, I generally come in at around 50g carbs a day anyway. It feels alien at first to deliberately choose high fat foods, but if you can, i would ignore your instincts and trust the plan!

Are you finding your skin/hair very dry? I find my hands go very scaly pretty quickly if I’m not having enough fat- not sure if that’s an official indicator!

If you are hungry immediately after eating it could be a sign that you are either very insulin resistant still, or that the carb content of your food is too high, and again, switching some of the veg for fats, or leaving the fat on meat, or choosing fattier cuts will help with that.

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bridgetreilly · 12/02/2018 12:20

And yes, definitely add more fat to the diet to stop you feeling hungry. I promise it won't stop you losing weight. Changing the skimmed milk to whole or semi-skimmed would be an easy way to change some of that, as well as using some olive oil in cooking, or adding cheese or full-fat yoghurt into your diet.

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