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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 6

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 07/03/2017 15:40

Continuing thread for the blood sugar dieters......

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tobee · 29/05/2017 16:08

Week 3 weigh in for me. So either no loss or 1lb loss this week but 4lb loss for me. I know it's not much compared to some. But there we go. I am still happy enough Smile.

Had 3x people's birthday celebrations this weekend but only had 1 glass of wine. Probably too many cals but good carbs. I thought after nearly 3 weeks of no alcohol I thought one glass would go to my head but it just felt fine. Not omg I miss it so much either. Grin

tobee · 29/05/2017 16:08

*meant 4 lb loss altogether.

Bringmewineandcake · 29/05/2017 18:25

1 and 3/4lb loss for me this week, that's 6.5lb across the 2 weeks. Not as much as I'd have liked but better than nothing. I've started logging it on MFP too rather than a notebook.
I'm currently enjoying a tuna, cheese and pistachio salad which is v yum and only 241 cals Halo

thenewaveragebear1983 · 29/05/2017 19:19

Evening all,
Hope you've all had a great bank holiday.
I'm now at the end of my 3rd day of holiday and not a lick of ice cream has passed my lips, I'm basically just being very, very good. Went to a theme park today so went on lots if rides and walked a lot too.
This is practically unheard of for me! If I wasn't drinking wine every night I'd probably come back lighter than I went but, as I am, could even maintain at this rate. What a result!

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HmmmHashtag · 29/05/2017 19:36

I've read and re-read the book, and prepped my food so am raring to go.

I noticed in the book there is no mention of ketosis @PinkBlossomTree ?

It also says you can enjoy a drink as long as it's only one or 2 units which has made me very happy Grin
I thought I'd share this as I have saved it to my phone Smile

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PinkBlossomTree · 29/05/2017 19:45

Thanks hashtag. I will confess I haven't read the book. I was about to buy it on Amazon yesterday but thought there wasn't much point as I'm only doing this for a further 2 weeks. (I may go back on for a couple of weeks after saying that)

That's strange as your body would naturally go into ketosis under a limit of carbs.

In the book does it have a g per day carb limit?

I'm just personally working to 800cals and under 50g carbs.

Also hashtag does the book continue after the 800 cal diet? Does it talk about way of life after as this would interest me greatly as unfortunately that's my downfall. As soon as I finish a diet it piles back on.

Is it really good and worth a read? I do like MM I think he talks so much sense.

Flibbertyjibbit · 29/05/2017 19:46

End of day 3, feeling OK - went out for a nice walk. Skipped breakfast today and split my calories over lunch & dinner so felt both were a substantial meal.

Does anyone else do 16:8 more than twice a week?

Flibbertyjibbit · 29/05/2017 19:49

I bought the book on amazon as it was just over £3. I found it a good read - read it in 2 days. After the 8 weeks it is based on low carb Mediterranean diet with no calorie counting, or possible 5:2 so 2 days with 800 cals.

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 29/05/2017 20:05

I aim for 16:8 everyday

thenewaveragebear1983 · 29/05/2017 21:07

There isn't a carb limit in the book. It is more that if you avoid the specific foods that aren't allowed and stick to 800 cals, you will naturally achieve a low enough carb count. The plan is about regulating insulin and doing so by eating foods that don't spike your blood sugars.

The menu plans are good, but if you follow your own recipes you must really use those plans as a guide- eg. If he uses porridge oats on one day a fortnight, that does not mean oats are 'allowed' - it means one meal out of 42 should contain oats. I see lots and lots of incorrect advice, particularly on the Facebook groups, where people are making oat cookies and having them every day, or having them every day. That is not the plan.

You are best to avoid pasta, rice, grains, potatoes and sugar pretty much constantly. He does use occasional quinoa and wild rice, but again, it's one recipe out of a whole week or fortnight. If you do this, and stick to 800 (or even 1000) - plus avoid fruit except berries/apples/pears etc as mentioned in the book, you would find it pretty hard to exceed 50-70g carbs.

I suppose it depends on what works for you. I know I can exceed the calories, but that I have to be very mindful of the carbs, especially those in dairy. I know that for me, fruit is pretty much off limits, especially apples and pears as they make me especially carb-crazy.

I have forgotten the name of the poster who asked, but yes. You really should read the book, even if just as a motivator.

With regards ketosis, I don't know much about it but I know from my gestational diabetes days that it carries some unpleasant side effects and isn't necessarily the best option for everyone.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 29/05/2017 21:19

Just done a very simple google about ketosis- so yes, it appears that you may naturally fall into ketosis doing this plan. I think that the reason why it isn't advocated and encouraged by MM is that to achieve it properly, you must aim very low with carbs (eg under 20g) and also restrict protein to approx 1g per kilo of body weight, and both of these contradict the plan somewhat.
I suppose if it's something you want to do to boost your weightloss then it might work, but it somewhat loses the health benefits of the Mediterranean style eating for me; the meat and veg, salads etc being the majority of my diet. I'd have nothing left to eat!!

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PinkBlossomTree · 29/05/2017 22:10

That's very interesting bear thank you.

I managed ketosis at the end of day 2. On day 3 I took a ketone stick and it was positive.

I have completely avoided bread pasta ect and fruit. I can't eat fruit as it makes me very hungry.

My carb intake most days are under 20g as I'm eating a lot of non carb veg.

My worst day was 47g on day one as I had a huge bowl of mixed veg.

One thing I've noticed during this diet over all the others I've done in previous years is that my hunger is non existent. Normally I'd want to chew my arm off. Ha

thenewaveragebear1983 · 29/05/2017 22:33

I am amazed that your carbs are so consistently low! Do you eat dairy? It's the dairy that always pushes mine up, I only have yoghurt, cheese and milk, but it does seem to push me up towards 50 ish g. I couldn't consistently do 20g and restrict protein.

It's about balance isn't it? I like the formality of this plan, and as a rule I do ok if I'm strict, and i can be strict 4-5 days a week. But I also like that I can relax a bit, like this week, and still stick to the principles, and still feel 'on plan'. I don't think the restrictive nature of ketosis would work for me, but perhaps it could for someone else, although I'd imagine there are more specific tailored plans/keto diets that might have ketosis as their primary goal which might be more effective than this if it's ketosis that works for you.

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tobee · 30/05/2017 00:03

Does anyone here eat cauli mash or rice, courgetti or shredded cabbage for pasta, potato, rice, noodle substitutes? Just never see anyone mention it. I use them all the time. They're ok , aren't they?

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 30/05/2017 01:07

tobee The book has lots of references to cauli-rice etc. You're fine! We have it occasionally with the skinny chilli

PinkBlossomTree · 30/05/2017 09:55

Tobee - I have the barenaked rice & noodles occasionally it needs something saucey with it as they are bland. Morrisons do a Indian pillar cauli rice but I've not tried it.

Bear - yes I don't have much dairy. Dash of milk that's pretty much it apart from once a week I have a smidgen of cheese on a flat mushroom.

I've never achieved ketosis by myself before now as I have done quite a few shake diets. I still have a lot of products left as I do quite often use them on 5:2 as the calories are their and I don't have to work them out but the carbs in each shake / soup is 12-14g. I tried Atkins did the 2 week all meat high fat and didn't work couldn't get into it no weight loss and it cost £££ in all the meat.

I've been having a think, this was supposed to be 4 weeks for me as I need to come off for a party but I've got 15lbs left from now so I'm very tempted to continue this plan until I get there. I want to go 7lbs lower than I have before and I don't think I can achieve that without continuing. 5:2 is amazing but my weight is all over the place and I put on so easily.

So I may be around for the duration.

PinkBlossomTree · 30/05/2017 10:06

Yes I think it's a balance on this, it's only stainable if it works for each individual and it's very very flexible so it's great.

Thinking about it MM has done very well with this plan as you can accommodate it to suit you, nothing's banned but the diet principles are there.

I just now need him to write a bulletproof book on how to keep the weight off and I will be happy. As I'm stuck in the same pattern year after year of pile it back on.

Slimthistime · 30/05/2017 10:13

Week 1, day 4
Also ate some bread when couldn't sleep last night!
Weighed myself this morning, 1.5lb down. Dieting in the past I've lost half a pound a week if that so hopefully a good start!

I wasn't hungry yesterday, if I hadn't been awake till three I'd not have eaten more. I took a pill at 3 which I should have done at 11pm but it's very hard to get them prescribed so I tend to save them.

Anyway I digress. Is watermelon okay on this diet? I like it in salad but feel it might be on his banned list.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 30/05/2017 10:49

I think watermelon (any melon) is banned, sorry!

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Oblomov17 · 30/05/2017 11:37

Morning.
On bank holiday caravanning here. In the constant rain. Fabulous!! Hmm

Yes, I eat cauliflower and courgetti a lot.

Welcome all newbies. Am laughing at image of Flighty falling into the bread!

I think we need to be very careful what we claim to be the 'rules'. Ketosis may well occur, but is not the focus for MM's BSD.

Plus, his 'maintenance' Mediterranean diet, in the book, does Sound ok. For one we reach goal weight. I'll let you know if I ever reach that bit!! Wink

And agree, with Couch, just because one recipe mentions oats, it's a one off as part of all the recipes, doesn't mean you can eat oats every day.

I have the very occasional puy lentils with roasted peppers and feta.

I have had a few wines and g&t's, but have also been very ill diabetically, and was sick. So not good. But will get back on it strictly, when I get back, to make sure I look my best in that dress!!

Keep on going everyone. We will get there.

Flibbertyjibbit · 30/05/2017 14:17

Day 4, feeling nauseous today - trying to drink more water and keep myself busy. Hoping it is just my body adjusting to the lower calories and not a gastritis flare up. I've averaged about 21g carbs the last 3 days so I'm thinking I could add a bit more veg to my plate but still stay within 800 calories.

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 30/05/2017 14:28

Could be carb-flu Flibberty. It's a bit of a shock to the system

Flightywoman · 30/05/2017 16:53

We went out for lunch today to our favourite burger place where I had a chicken dish - not breaded or battered - and I chose to have it with salad, no chips! ADMIRE MY IRON WILL!

I've calculated as best I can without knowing exact quantities or brand names and I reckon I'm pretty much on limit for calories today, which is fine because it was all very filling and I'm not planning much else for the rest of the day.

Half term is HARD!!

Perdyboo · 30/05/2017 19:48

Can I say a massive thank you to this thread and people sharing their stories of their results. I am 5ft 10 and on Friday weighed in at 16.5.5 bmi 33 bf 45% for goodness sake. Apparently the ideal weight for my height is 9.1 to 12.4. The last time I saw 12. 4 I was at school doing sport every day. I am not diabetic but need to sort my eating shit out. I had gallbladder out last year and I also had episodes of pancreatitis. Some food groups still make it burn, badly. The voice in my head has been prompting me to sort this all out.
On Friday I was on a long train journey and read the BSD book (drinking cappucino, eating rocky roads and galaxy Blush) Since Saturday I have followed the plan to the letter and am loving mushrooms with creme fraiche mustard, salmon and eggs. Hubby who cooks is very supportive and we have meal planned. I am the queen of self sabotage and my adult life has been filled with cycles of getting down to 15 stone, feeling great then fecking it up. I'm also one for not eating all day then eating all the wrong stuff on the way home so 16:8 is not for me. I am also a great binge eater. There I said it.
I weighed in today because I needed to know this headache is worth it and I am now 16.0 bmi 32 bf the same!!!
So, if you are still reading, please can I join in. I'm quite sure I'll be fine this week, possibly next and I'd love to see any results you lot have been having but heads up I will need some definite hand holding in a couple of weeks because I really need to break the cycle this time. Many thanks for reading :)

PinkBlossomTree · 30/05/2017 20:23

Welcome Purdy. What a heartfelt post.

My advice would be just take each day as it comes.

I'm a secret binger normally and I'm a cereal dieter but going right back to basics is good for me.

That's a amazing weight loss in such a short time, should really give you a boost as that's incredible. Imagine what the scales will say in a week/months time.

I'm going to charge my kindle and order the recipe book download as I need to try and get my head round the med diet. It's all a bit alien to me as it's been drummed into me for years to buy low fat everything. I don't even know if I've tried olive oil. It's going to be a whole new world but hoping I can get some meal ideas for the whole family as I'm currently having to make 3 different teas as DH won't eat what I'm eating.

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