Blood sugar diet thread 6

[thenewaveragebear1983]

Continuing thread for the blood sugar dieters......

I can sort of, doesn't mean I listen to it though!
From the old Paul McKenna hypnosis thing, I learned that real hunger is gradual, and gets gradually more persistent, whereas emotional hunger is urgent and sudden (and it's only when you come to at the kitchen table surrounded by wrappers that you realise!)
Real hunger is also easier to ignore weirdly, as in things take your mind off it. Emotional hunger/ false hunger pangs/"mouth watering" as you put it is more difficult to ignore.
From my training in drug rehab, that sugar craving/ feeding frenzy call to arms is your body's cry for a little hit of dopamine to get you through and it is very difficult to ignore because it's part of our hardwiring, out animal instinct, to seek out dopamine hits throughout the day (from sex, food, exercise, joy) but once we learn we can get it from a hobnob we're essentially a very lazy species.

On the subject of 'rehab', this is my kitchen - it's like breaking bad for BSDers in here today.

Bear, they look amazing! You have willpower of stone!!

Not so good in the last few days, not chronic, but bits here and there and a glass of red wine. That's because I have been crying a lot for the last week because of shit that happened before. Dh is also very sad. But we will get through this!!

I hope the sadness eases oblomov

I made a bloody awesome supper tonight - stir fried prawns with steamed pak choi and snow peas. I normally bugger up the stir fry flavours but somehow fluked it! It was so delicious!

Clocks in at 270 for the whole meal.

I'm holding steady so far this week, no further loss since my weekend gain. Still telling myself it's a WoL etc etc, but it's hard!

Oblo

I have resisted the cake, it's weird, because they aren't 'mine' I just don't even think of eating them. Maybe I should try it with other food too?!

I'll have gone over today though; probably up to 1000 when I sit and crunch the numbers. I'm going to weigh myself tomorrow as I haven't all week, but I feel like I've lost weight if that makes sense? Looser round the waist definitely. I've Continued to weigh everything today, it is definitely helping me to stay on track. Weigh it, check it, write it, eat it. It's made me very aware of how many times I was under-guessing, or just simply not counting, because i wasn't checking properly.

Not sure what to have for dinner tonight, I am feeling like maybe just something light and salad.

Bear fair play for not caving into temptation.

I am not hungry at all today, I've had some soup I made and total comes in at just 270cals and 22g carbs.

I have drank lots today, so maybe that's why I'm not hungry. But I have been busy to and fro 4 times to the school today. I've actually burnt off more than I've consumed according to my fitness watch.
Jeans are feeling a bit looser in the legs and that's amazing for me as I am very much bottom heavy.

Oblomov it's so hard to eat well when you're upset. Be gentle on yourself and don't worry about BSD.

Steamed salmon and a bit of salad for tea. Ending on 871 calories today. Could quite happily polish off the biscuits in the cupboard but I won't.

Those cakes look amazing!

I need to be more organised at the weekends. I've planned the meals for this weekend though and DH is being very supportive so fingers crossed.

I hope you feel less sad soon @Oblomov be kind to yourself

Oblomov . Hope you feel better.

Nothing else to add tonight. Average kind of day. It's a way of life, isn't it.

Sorry to hear that Oblamov.

Thanks for that very interesting info bear.

Had to go to the supermarket this pm (I go just after lunch to avoid danger). Towards the last bit of shopping I was congratulating myself at not being disturbed by the cakes, bread, biccies, choccie etc. then right by the exit I saw an enormous packet of salty snacks and nearly shouted out "crisps!!!" as my (not so) inner Homer Simpson took over. What's that they say about pride comes before a fall ? Resisted though !

Morning all!
Weighed in this morning at 11.12.8 (so 4.2lb down since Monday) which is brill, a total of 11 ish pounds since starting this round. I've had several weeks of maintain/gain/loss so that's a good chunk off and new numbers.
Just need to keep my head in the game for the weekend. Today is PTA Fayre so I'm busy all day which should help.
Chicken satay kebabs planned for tonight with salad (and wine!)

Still no change on WI this morning. I know I had a great first week and that my average is fairly good, but this is quite dispiriting - if I can't lose consistently on 800 cals a day what on earth will it take? I'm hoping for a whoosh!

I am going to keep going and give a good chance but I hate it when all that effort doesn't result in the just rewards...

Well done bear - great results. I hope the Fayre goes well.
Flighty have you checked your measurements? When I stalled, I also checked my eating window and changed it so it was more condensed.I hope you start to see more losses soon.

Yes, I did measurements couch and they haven't changed since the first week either. Oh it's just so annoying!

Hello ladies. I've been lurking on your thread for a month. You gave me lots of inspiration so I started the BSD last month. Have managed to lose just over a stone. Was going to give myself the day off today but looking at the scales showing 10st 1, something starting with a 9 is so tantalizingly close I have bought myself yet another fish and some salad . I can hardly wait .

I Do wonder though how on earth you maintain it once you lose it? I cannot imagine my life on so little food (and most importantly bread and pasta) forever more.

Flighty that must be so frustrating. Fingers crossed you suddenly start to lose

Round, welcome!
Maintenance is the hard bit. I definitely struggled with it and regained some weight, but then I did return to entirely 'normal' eating. I think a small introduction of carbs (ie one portion every couple of days) and daily increase in calories to something more appropriate for your actual weight/height is the way to do it. If you have more to lose you can do a second round.

I know it's totally true that Michael (or at least his wife) lurks on this thread, so come on MM, release a maintenance plan book!!!!

Did any of you get the freebie magazine in the Fail about the new gut diet by the way? It might be of interest, it isn't a weight loss plan it's a health boosting plan that may result in weight loss by boosting the gut bacteria.

I just re-measured myself and there is a change there from last week so thank you couch for the suggestion and reminding me to do that.

I still disgruntled at not losing lbs, but inches will do me for the moment!

I understand flighty it's all about the numbers for me! Glad to hear there's inches going though. It's a strange question but do you keep your scales in exactly the same spot? Mine can literally be 3-4lb heavier in certain spots on the floor! You need to find the sweet spot

Oh absolutely bear! I put them on the same spot - and if I don't like what I see I may have been known to move them around to check!

I used to be an obsessive weigher - multiple times a day. But I did have a stress-induced eating disorder at the time. Those days are long gone, and I work hard to present a positive message for my daughter so I tend not to constantly weigh myself when she's around.

My mum is a wonderful woman but she does have massive issues with weight and image which has fed into my own relationship with those things. It would devastate her to know that and I wouldn't ever want to hurt her, but she's always super-happy when I've lost weight and gets very ears-pricked-up about ANYONE else having weight loss success to be able to suggest it to me. She puts fat and disgusting together almost as one whole word - fatanddisgusting - in relation to eating a lot of food, or a bit of cake, without ever having stopped to think about how that makes me feel. And that's weird because she is thoughtful and feeling and intuitive. I tend not to think about it too much because it's screwed up and painful.

And I'm breaking the cycle with my girl.

Funnily enough I was having a similar conversation with my dsis the other day. Our mother has always been on a diet, for her entire life, and is still overweight. I have dieted now for my entire adult life except when I've been pregnant, and am still overweight. Pattern emerging?! We both see that bring brought up in a household of dieting and falling off the wagon had left us with this very warped sense of food.

My daughter has her fathers physiology, so is tall and thin, and I hope hope hope that she forms a healthier relationship with food than I have. I am very careful about discussing 'diets' with her around, and it's a close call between encouraging healthy eating and being on a 'diet' isn't it?

Oh it really is difficult. Mine is 9, tall, and thin, but she started on about being fat when she was about 6, it was heartbreaking. Someone at school had said her stomach stuck out, which it just didn't! She's as thin as a reed! AND so what if it did! It was just awful.

Now she is pretty able to see that I am eating fundamentally different stuff to her, but we talk about balance, and how it's important to get a range of things, and healthy strong bodies. They're doing something about sugar and healthy eating at school at the moment so she was refusing orange juice this morning. So then we had a conversation about a small glass being ok, though a whole orange would be better, and why if she'd had sweets or a biscuit/bun for snack then it's fruit for pudding.

And THEN we had a really interesting conversation about what they had to eat in Little House on the Prairie - lots of protein, very little refined carbs, no potatoes, no pasta, no rice etc. And very little in the way of fruit and veg - and how different it is from what we have now.

My mum hasn't been overweight very much really - though she always thought she was. Mostly she 's always been slim to thin. So it's doubly hard that she doesn't really get it because she hasn't been where I am.

Thank you all.

Well done Bear.
Flighty, I'm sure you'll get a whoosh!!

Ds1 is quite aware of my no/low carbing and I don't like that. I don't think it's right. I try to play it down.

Bear I have been reading the gut diet. its very similar to other gut diet plans I have seen, and also similar to paleo. Very restrictive potentially for phase 1 with exclusion of coffee, grains, pulses, dairy certain veg and added to this fasting or 5:2 is recommended. The actual research about the gut is interesting to read though, some very interesting stuff on gut bacteria imbalances causing cravings. MM does mention BSD quite a few times and says med diet is his favourite

PS I have only read parts so might have it wrong!

Hope all doing well

I might still give it a read. The coffee thing is quite interesting- I drink 3 cups a day but strong ones from my pod machine, and I have wondered if it's too much. I've heard too much can give you a sticking out stomach from the cortisol, like a stress reaction I suppose, so maybe cutting down would help? Is the book out yet?