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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

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Not2bObvious · 25/06/2016 11:17

Shiny new thread for the BSD'ers. Best thing you can do is first read the MM bsd book do you get a full grasp of what the rules are but in a nutshell:
800 calories a day
No bread/pasta/potatoes/rice
No processed food, no alcohol
As close to no sugar you can get
Full fat, no low fat
Protein to keep you full
2-3 litres of water a day
10,000 steps a day (work your way up)
HIIT if you can 2-3 times a week

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 16/09/2016 20:19

Oh, and here's my dinner! I'm definitely finding my mojo, i haven't counted cals today but that's 2 days zero sugar. I'm going to stick at just no sugar til Monday then try to do a full week at 800 calories to see if I can shift the half stone I've gained over the school holidays!
Dinner was chicken breast, mushrooms in s cream and garlic sauce, roasted peppers and courgettes and a few sautéed potatoes. And a glass of wine - tis Friday after all!

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notsoold · 16/09/2016 20:19

Thanks bear we have birthay right to Xmas!!!! Interesting ideas regarding savoury but you touched on the neeve regarding sweet. They will know because the taste is different and so wll I.
Should I take the day off and eat on the day?

Loungingbutnotforlong · 16/09/2016 20:58

Hello- so that was a good week done- felt fantastic all week- not hungry, within control. Just had Indian take-away (thank you DH!) but I kept to the meat and veg sauce and only a tiny bit of rice. Feel ok about that- if I am going to stick at this long term, I do need some occasional lee-way. Have a meal plan for the weekend, so hopefully it won't go off piste! Have a good one!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 16/09/2016 20:59

Well. I shall try and be objective so as not to lead you astray. If you're going to make a mock sweet with puréed dates, cacao, butter etc etc, then I would just say to allow yourself a piece of cake. The calories in the sugar free version will be as high or higher. If you think you could manage with berries, yoghurt, then I'd say stay strong and do it. You could do meringues with fruit and whipped cream (like individual pavlova) and then not have the meringue yourself?
I didn't have any days off in the first 8 weeks, but that was through lack of opportunity not iron will.
I think whatever you do, do so with intention. Plan your food, do your healthy spread and allow yourself one treat, rather than just a free for all. That way you hopefully won't get the guilt the next day! Also, you don't have to do every party, you could pick the really special one to have a night off and stay on plan for the others.,
I have my baby boy's 1st birthday so I will be having cake- life's for living after all and if I plan for it then hopefully i will get back on it easily the next day!

pfrench · 16/09/2016 21:38

I have worked out a day off a week - that's just how it's worked out with family stuff and parties. Think that's ok considering it's a lifetime thing. I'm not pre diabetic, this is all about weight loss. Just had a Thai green curry but no rice or noodles. Lots of calories but no carb.

I've officially got 2 weeks left, but think I'm going to keep going for another 8 weeks with a slack day of 1300 cals. I'm also going to play with carb meals post runs. Weigh daily to see how things work.

notsoold · 16/09/2016 22:17

Thanks !!!! That is what I was coming to think as well.... and will use our ideas and guideline bear....
pfrench this is my second lot of 8 weeks ( or two months in my case). Easier this time around. But I am still hungryHmm

pfrench · 16/09/2016 22:29

I'm only hungry about an hour before a reasonable meal time, which is probably alright. I've started dropping in a snack at 3pm (I'm a teacher, so breakfast at 7.30, lunch at 12, dinner at 7.30) - a few nuts and an easy peel satsuma. Makes any hunger easier/non existent.

Lndnmummy · 17/09/2016 07:14

Hi everyone, I have not been updating for a while but things are foing really well for me. I started at 75.8 and today weighed in at 71kg so hopefully by Tuesday which is my 3 week mark I will have lost 5kg!

I am being treated by a friend to lunch today so might go over calorie wise but will still do low carb. Have also booked in an hour powerwalk. That is how I try to do it. If it js something really special then do it but plan in an extra walk.

This diet has revolutionised how I feel about food. In leas than theee weeks I have gone frm thinking about food all day every day to now just see food as fuel. It is remarkable. What works for me is two meals a day, lunch and dinner and then water, coffee and herbal teas in between. No afternoon sugar slumps all gone!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 17/09/2016 07:30

That's great Ldn, well done!
It's one of those beautiful crisp autumn days here today, the moon was still out when I got up this morning though! Planning a busy day of sorting out kids toys and clothes, a few trips to the tip and up into the loft, and a good tidy and clear out in the garden.
Porridge for breakfast yesterday did me absolutely no favours as I was hungry all day as a result so today it needs to be protein! Eggs probably. Have a great weekend everyone!

Rachcakes · 17/09/2016 07:42

Morning! Can I join you guys?
I've ditched booze for September and started PT sessions as I have 3 stone to lose. He's started me on this eating plan - I'm a week in. So far, so good, but interested in hearing how others are finding it.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 17/09/2016 07:45

Welcome rachcakes, how are you finding it so far? There's a good mix of newbies and old timers on here so if you have any questions then just ask!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 17/09/2016 09:31

Breakfast! Grilled mushroom, goats cheese, grilled bacon and a poached egg. Hope you don't mind my pictures, I find it really helps me keep on track and make a bit of effort with my food. When I stop posting you'll know that means I've relapsed!

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Rachcakes · 17/09/2016 09:40

It's OK actually. I thought I'd find it harder than I do.
I'm an awkward one, as I don't like eggs or fish, so I'm worried I'll get bored, but I'm hoping this thread may broaden my horizons. I only have to do till the end of September before I can introduce a little bit of dairy again.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 17/09/2016 10:02

Yes, I would have really struggled without dairy especially in the early days!

Lndnmummy · 17/09/2016 10:05

Please keep the photos coming bear, it is inspiring!

APlaceOnTheCouch · 17/09/2016 12:53

bear your food looks amazing. I love seeing your photos.

yumyumpoppycat · 17/09/2016 16:01

Hi Everyone - happy Saturday

Sorry Twinmamma I just saw your message when scrolling thorugh, welcome to the thread - hope you are feeling better now.

Lnd you have made fab progress well done on sv, and nsvs.

Newaverage I agree with everyone else it is inspiring seeing your pictures and Grace's on the other thread too. In fact its all rubbing off as I had my first sub under 800 daypossibly ever! I was treating it as a fast day and aiming for 700 so failed in that respect I only had some tea and coffee and sugar free gum after lunch but was working after lunch then cleaning the house in readiness for my dad coming at 8.45 this morning Shock

Am higher cal today (started diet in Jan) so hope I am not jinxing myself by saying but this morning I was under 10 stone again for the first time since holiday. Hooray!!!!

Rachcakes I am surprised a bit surprosed a PT is reccomending this diet but you should get quick results! Would you mind if I ask how he/she reccomends eating around workouts? Yest I had a small breakfast (1 egg and stir fry veg), then a HIIT shaun T Insanity max 30 workout, then a piece of my mums lemon drizzle cake (oops) with raspberries then lunch shortly after was salad (watercress, spinach, rocket, corriander, cucumber, olives, peppers, avacado, salami, chicken). Trying to add a pic of my fave stir fry veg and yesterday's salad but its very red and green so feel silly!

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yumyumpoppycat · 17/09/2016 16:27

Oooh interesting for anyone looking to change things up a bit, I just clicked on amazon look inside for the new recipe book and quinoa and wholegrains are ok (not really brown bread though as may have added sugar), brown rice is ok but looks like at a push. Lentils and beans too as we know.

Thinking about your porridge newaverage and interestingly I have read a few things online suggesting it is better to have carbs in the evening so poss a small helping of these things might be ok at dinner alongside meat etc? Guess its all about experimenting. I have found I am ok with one slice of Genius gluten free multigrain bread (quite a bit of fiber) so long as I pair it up with nut butter or an egg (and ideally some veg when I can be arsed ). Carbs are a prob for me and I lose well on low carb but find it hard to stick to so i haven't made low carb a priority with this diet, esp as they tend to be fairly low anyway to allow for filling food on low cal budget.

Sorry for essay Blush

thenewaveragebear1983 · 17/09/2016 16:52

That's interesting about the evening carbs. I do find sometimes that I struggle to sleep on this plan. I'm a lifelong insomniac anyway, but I have bouts of extreme sleeplessness. They coincide usually with totm being due, but I also find that after a few days very low carb I am a little bit wired for want of a better word. Which means I have a few terrible nights and early mornings (once I'm awake I am up) which then drives me to the carbs biscuit tin plus makes the days very long to exist on just 800 cals. Vicious circle. I might try having 'supper' of porridge instead of breakfast, as I actually find it easier to wait til lunch to eat but I'm often peckish in the evenings and have no calories left in the bank.
Food for thought.....
Also, your food looks nice, I love those stir fry packs for convenience, but damn those little slivers of water chestnuts - I cannot abide the texture of them and I always miss a few when I think I have picked them all out!! I could do a Chinese tonight actually, I feel like I need spicy satay sauce!

yumyumpoppycat · 17/09/2016 17:35

That's why I love that one peppers, shoots, shredded cabbage and carrots no water chestnut!

Worth a try with eve carbs esp at time of the month and if it helps you sleep.

Rachcakes · 17/09/2016 21:15

Yum yum, he tells me to have a good amount of protein at each meal to give me strength and energy. He's a huge fan of HIIT because it continues to burn fat for a couple of days after the workout. I'm only three weeks in with him, but he's good. I'll let you know how it progresses as I switch to step 2 at the end of this month.

Can I ask, did anyone get the rage in the first couple of weeks? I'm not sure if it's PMT or this diet but I feel like I could start a fight with myself in an empty room Blush

pfrench · 17/09/2016 21:51

Oh dear! 1400 cals today.. but 2 hours skiing and 54g carbs, so not too bad. Have no idea how a wagamamas starter of a tiny bit of duck wrapped in 3 gem lettuce leaves with shredded onion and cucumber comes to 400 cals, but that's what MFP says...

thenewaveragebear1983 · 17/09/2016 22:10

Just downloaded the recipe book to my kindle, had a brief skim and it looks good. I quite like the idea of rereading the info and refreshing myself.

Loungingbutnotforlong · 18/09/2016 08:22

Love seeing the pics of food- not tech savvy enough, though, to post my own! Yesterday felt quite autumnal- do you think it will change your eating/meals? I am only 3 weeks in, but have been really enjoying the salads (with copious cheese and hummusWink). I wonder if I can still face a bistro leaf when it is cold and rainy outside.
Had my usual Saturday blowout- not good- but straight back in it today.
I'm actually much hungrier when I woke up today.
Have a target of buying myself some new underwear if I can get under 10.9 for a week, so need to keep on it! Grin

dewdrop68 · 18/09/2016 08:55

Hi everyone. I know I'm really late on the bandwagon, but I'd really like to join in. We have some history of diabetes in the family, so I'd really like to reduce my blood sugar levels. Which book do you use?