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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

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Not2bObvious · 27/04/2016 21:42

BSD Part 3

Will add in decent tips section tomorrow - have it all typed out, just need to log in from a proper computer, not phone

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Peasandsweetcorn · 27/05/2016 09:38

Just to echo everyone else, H3l3. Thoughts are with you & your friend.

Back down to 10st2 this morning. I was reading the "if you're 5'3", what do you weigh" thread earlier & realised I really should be 9st something.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 27/05/2016 09:42

Morning all. Well, the carbs got me last night. It wasn't pretty. I'm not proud of myself. The scales have punished me. Line drawn and new day started......
I hobbled to the doctor this morning, she prescribed me an antibiotic for my septic foot, so hopefully I will be able to resume my fitness 'programme' and work off some of last night's damage!
Have a good Friday everyone! Any plans for the bank holiday/ half term?

H3l3naGraham · 27/05/2016 09:48

Morning all! Today is another day & I am astonished that a) have no hangover b) scales are fine despite alcohol consumed & fish & chips for lunch..... Mind you ate nothing last night which will have helped.

Thank you so much for your sweet words, I am going to be super-strong for my lovely friend & help him as best I can through this awful illness.

Freezing here this AM, sun has gone for the weekend & am regretting storing all my jumpers for the summer..... Porridge & berries for brekkie, a freezer-emptying fish cake for lunch (oops, but has to be eaten..) and minute-steaks & roast veggies for dinner. Not a perfect day which won't be helped by a friend's birthday drink tonight, have told sis-out-law we need to go late & leave early; I will, even if she doesn't!!

Not2bObvious · 27/05/2016 10:22

peas I think it depends on your frame etc. No point being 9 stone and looking like skeletor! Better to look well and be healthy.
Down from 11.2.6 last Friday to 11.1, delighted with that, can taste the 10's they're so close. Cheat meal tonight & then tdee for the rest of the weekend. Let's see if I can be 11.1 on Tuesday after the weekend. Glad you're not suffering with a hangover H3l, that wouldn't be good to have after getting bad news

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 27/05/2016 10:52

Today is the last day of my 8 weeks and I have lost 14lbs. I am very pleased 😀

I still have lots to go so will be on this thread forever because it is so good for inspiration and motivation. Without you all I would have lost heart when the scales stuck for weeks and would have forgotten the importance of the eating window.

You are all Star

H3l3naGraham · 27/05/2016 11:09

Well done couch - you and me both will be on this for a while longer then! I know I'll put on some when we go on hols in 2 weeks time & I need to get down to 10.5st not the 11st I have been kidding myself about, my tgt date is end of October, plenty of time. Allegedly, but of course there's tonnes on during the summer to challenge me.... Am just short of losing 2st since January, scales are wavering around 12st 1lb to 12.2.5st and am confident will hit the 12 inside the next 2 weeks.

We need to visualise all the fat we've lost, should contact all posters on this stream, add it up & marvel at the mountain!!! Grin

thenewaveragebear1983 · 27/05/2016 11:39

This is 5lb of fat. The muscular stomach behind it is NOT MINE

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Not2bObvious · 27/05/2016 12:12

Super work place! That's a great result. Are you going to relax it a bit?
I'm a little worried if people keep at this full pelt long term, it should be modified to ensure not starving or getting sucked into an ED. no fear of that here for sure but as I've moaned said before I don't know how I'll stay at goal once I get there. I'm kinda doing, in theory, 4:3 at the min, 800x4, tdeex3

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Elvish · 27/05/2016 12:30

11.1 twins again Not2be!

I had a really hungry day yesterday and I was traveling for work so there weren't many healthy options. I tried to keep it reasonable and had a peanut protein bar, mini chunk of cheese, popcorn and carrots. Ended the day at 1,145 cals and 75g of carbs. So not great but a lot better than it could have been.

Tracking it all really helped as I was tempted to have a glass of wine with dinner, but once I realised I'd not done as much damage as I could have I didn't want it so much. This is a bit of a new thing for me - damage limited rather than taking the what the hell approach and going mad.

H3l3naGraham · 27/05/2016 12:53

Oh good grief, that's 5lbs....... I've nearly lost 2 stone, disgusting........ Yeuch, that is so motivating for me, don't want that stuff sticking to my innards, thank you bear need to pin it on my bread-bin!!! Am working out how to enlarge it, print it off & put it above my bathroom scales.

Long-term I will switch to the Med principles, this is going to be a way of life for me & DH now, once we've both shifted the 1.5st we each need to lose, then we'll be 5 days a week Med, 2 days a week more relaxed eating, DH craves bananas, I love my cheese, will work this all in & get a plan for life organised!!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 27/05/2016 13:31

Yes, its quite shocking to see it like that isn't it? My current wake up call is holding baby ds, he weighs 2 stone, which is what I've lost since I started dieting (18lb ish on bsd) and also what I've got left to lose, or could in principle lose and still be within a healthy range interpret this as 'I'm probably not going to lose another 2 stone but carrying him up the stairs or walking with him for any distance makes me realise how detrimental that 2 stone was to my life. You simply don't notice it when it's 'yours' , but its a stark reminder of how it could be/how it was. I haven't really thought much about after BSD, I imagine when I come back from holiday I'll do another round of 800 (properly this time, my average daily cals for may has been 1025) and that should take me nicely up to my summer holiday. It's got to be for life for me, I'm too much of a carb junkie to allow any of the really hard stuff back in on a regular basis, so will most likely adopt a low carb, Mediterranean style, calorie counted maintenance plan rather than allow a once a week day off. this last week has proven to me that I'm not really ready for cake to relax it and have days off, because I can't control myself the next few days; I've been quite down this week, really wanting and not having, then finally cracking and gorging- its been like the bad old days!

H3l3naGraham · 27/05/2016 14:20

It is incredible, isn't it bear - 2st, all that extra weight & what it was doing to our frames, never mind our organs etc. Your honesty is great, I think it's vital that this diet isn't seen as a quick-fix, but the start of a new way of life, or it'll all go back on again. I can shut the treats cupboard - it's not food that calls to me, but wine & like you, I still need to learn that if I have a treat day, this doesn't imply a treat week.....

lookingforhope · 27/05/2016 14:35

Feeling gross here, at trade fair and there has been nothing to eat but burgers . After a 16 hour fast period had to give in and have one as nowhere to shop and have nothing with me. Didn't even enjoy it .It was stodgy and tasteless. What a waste of calories. Angry .Probably blown my allowance for the day and not even had any decent nutrients. This does not bode well for my 3 week trade show next month when I will be working 12 hour days with only venue catering available. Don't want to undo my losses so far. Help Confused

APlaceOnTheCouch · 27/05/2016 15:15

Not2 I've been fairly relaxed on occasion over the 8 weeks so will probably just continue like that. It will probably work out like 5:2 since I seem to slip 2 days per week.

bear that looks disgusting! I must admit I have noticed a real difference with my stomach. It's nowhere near as wobbly as it once was. In fact, I might check my measurements later to have final figures for the 8 weeks.

H3l3naGraham · 27/05/2016 16:11

Hello hope - I was a conference & events director until I threw in the towel & decided to do part-time consultancy work from home, so I know exactly what you mean about the food.....

2 tricks I used to employ were... If there's only sandwiches on offer I used to throw away one of the slices of bread & eat it as an open sandwich. If it's burgers then either do the same, chose the chicken or veggie variant or just eat the burger bit, but I have noticed that even the likes of Birmingham, Bournemouth & Excel have salads on offer at the fast food joints now.

I also used to see what was on offer en-route from the hotel at the local M&S/Tesco Express or whatever & bring my own in, although I appreciate this isn't always on offer, depending upon where your trade shows are, also storing a salad in a coat cupboard that has an ambient temperature of about 90C isn't an option.......neither's eating with a fork when you've got people lurking around the stand. Those were the days... A diet of alcohol all night, junk food all day & virtually no sleep....swollen feet, red eyes, sticky armpits & permanent dehydration...Winkalong with a fixed smile on your face....!!

oolaroola · 27/05/2016 18:36

Well done place I'm about 5 days behind you but will be sticking around too cos I need to do more.

Hope although the burger was rubbish the fact that you're not craving the rubbish food and you're not acknowledging it as some kind of treat really shows a change of mindset eh?
I think my mind is still being reset and slowly moving on from empty carbs and sugar being delicious. Having said that there's still plenty of work to be done on my attitude to snacks - I seem to mindlessly graze sometimes and can sense that I'm not even counting them as part of the carb/calorie count! Eek. Just seem to write them off and not acknowledge what I'm eating properly. I guess the mindfulness would help and I haven't done any meditating for a bit.
I'm struggling with exercise at the mo too. Am just knackered a lot recently, stressed with work and can't find the time. It's the weekend though so should be able to squeeze some longer walks with the hound.

This thread is still proving a great source of motivation and comfort for me too - thank goodness for the wise, non-judgemental words of you all. Thank you.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 27/05/2016 20:19

Thanks oola . I rarely make my steps target during the week so try to get lots of walking in on the weekends.

We went out for dinner this evening so goodness knows what the scales will say tomorrow as my carbs are double what they should be. Shock

It's also a holiday weekend and we have two family events. But I am starting to feel that even if I slip, I will get back on top of it again which is quite an empowering feeling. Have a lovely evening everyone.

oolaroola · 27/05/2016 21:29

Ah me too place, I have 2 birthday parties in the next 10 days. Will be making cakes for them but am pretty committed to not having any.
And I feel the same about getting right back on the horse if any slip ups occur.

That's gotta be good right? Like we're changing old habits for good.
Here's to a lot of walking this weekend - cheers!

lookingforhope · 27/05/2016 21:40

Thanks for the tips H3l3na. I feel after today's food nightmare I will be eating a good breakfast and carrying emergency bags of almonds everywhere at the festival Grin But Oola you are so right. Often on diets I grasp at ' reasons' to cheat (ooh I have to eat from this buffet of sandwiches, my diet is ruined, May as well add a scone and some cake' etc) but today I was genuinely cross I had to eat that burger and came home craving strawberries and yoghurt and 'clean' tastes. So won't dwell, back on it tomorrow. Gym session booked and going to do healthy shop and cook some veggie soups and curries. Good luck with the walking, the parties and the weekend ladies Wink

Not2bObvious · 27/05/2016 21:51

Lots of super positivity here, great to see. Had my cheat meal with some white wine but closed the kitchen straight after, water & bed. I am aching after last nights hellish gym class. I thought it was just weights but it had cardio too, I nearly upchucked (sorry for tmi) And there was I thinking I was fit'ish. Tired but pleased I didn't lose the plot today. And the beauty of having my cheat on Friday is I can balance out the rest of the weekend!

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oolaroola · 27/05/2016 22:12

Great stuff not- well done with all that exercise - sounds tough! Also like the image of the kitchen being 'closed' - that's a good one, I'm gonna use it too.

Not2bObvious · 28/05/2016 09:47

I am still ridiculously sore this morning, Day 2 after an extreme workout can be worse. I forgot that, like I forgot I'm crap at extreme workouts! Chinese bloat is showing on the scales but that's my fault for doing a WI. I didn't eat chips & only had a taste of rice so it must be the salt. I have no inclination to get my ass up today sigh....

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 28/05/2016 11:23

You burn calories when you're sleeping Not2b Wink don't be too hard on yourself. Your commitment to 'proper exercise' not just walking which is all I manage is very impressive.

Not2bObvious · 28/05/2016 14:10

No sleeping done but cake baking, soup making, washing, dusting & ironing done. Going to have bath soon in the hope it helps the muscles. I've realised I have only 10 pound to go to hit a healthy bmi, and I've 5 weeks to my holidays. I know it's a lofty challenge but imagine I got to it by then!!! That would be amazing. Feeling focussed. That's so funny we're still weight twins elvish😁

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 28/05/2016 14:40

A healthy bmi is an excellent incentive Not2b That would be amazing!

You've inspired me to check when I would reach that if I continued to lose weight at the same rate. It would another 3 months . . .so realistically I might make it by Christmas lol Grin