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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Michael Mosley - Blood sugar diet Part2

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Not2bObvious · 23/03/2016 15:17

Bsd part 2

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Sputnik · 19/04/2016 19:02

Yes toast is the ultimate comfort food, and really quick and handy, can't be beaten. I'm trying not to think about it though, and when I do, remind myself that I gained 5-6kg over the winter because I couldn't keep away from the toaster! Next time I have it will be a big treat, hopefully I will stop at 1 slice, but I'm not sure I can trust myself yet!

Surprisingly though I'm not craving anything in particular with this WOE, just occasionally feel hungry in general. Even going from drinking wine most nights to drinking 2 nights a week has been easier than I thought.

Peasandsweetcorn · 19/04/2016 19:28

I have been rushed off my feet for the past two days, yesterday at home with 3yo DS and today at work. Whilst I've been hungry, I've had little access to food so have been able to keep within to 800 (I think).
This is day 7 for me so I'll weigh in tomorrow. All of the holiday bloat has gone and I think my hips are looking slimmer and that I may have an indentation in my bizarrely shaped knees. I certainly felt a lot more comfortable in today's outfit than I did when I last wore it a couple of weeks ago.
I am feeling inspired by all the fitness chat. I don't think I'll find time this week but must do over the weekend.
I do wish you lot hadn't mentioned lovely warm toast. You know exactly what I'm drooling at the thought of now! My fellow commuters on the train will be giving me odd looks soon!

Sputnik · 19/04/2016 19:44

It's all Breadandwine's fault, troublemaker!

mootime · 19/04/2016 20:13

Ooh I really could murder some toast....
And some wine...
Wine is my big craving on this and frankly I've been rubbish at resisting it.

I've had a bit of a reality check that despite the fact that I've lost a fair bit of weight I still need to loose 12lb to be in the normal weight range. I've never thought of myself as "that big" (even though the mirror says different!). But I've lost a stone now, and had lost 2 stone since last baby before that (one straight after baby and one on LC Bootcamp last year before I lost the weight I've relost now doing 5:2.

This means that I was really obese, and because I used to have dodgy scales (that were out by a stone) that has never really dawned on me. In my head I'm just a bit bigger that the skinny me that got married. But in reality I was 15stone and that is really very big for my height.

Sorry if that's rambling. In some ways it shows me how far I've come, I've lost 3 stone in 2.5 years... But also how far I have to go, another 2 stone to get to what used to be my "plump" weight. How did it get to be this bad???

Anyway, we've got butternut squash with tahini for supper which will be yummy. Just need to get the 2year old next to me to actually go to sleep

TonyOrlando · 19/04/2016 21:45

All this talk of bread...please stop! I made some flaxseed buns the other day, it's not the same! H3l3naGraham is gram flour low carb? I want to make a fake pizza but I'm drawing the line at a cauliflower base (because I'm lazy!)

Good news, since 4th April, I've lost 4 inches off my hips Shock Still a lot to go but my belt appreciates it. I'm regretting those slices of garlic bread (shhh) yesterday and that wispa today (rubbish day at work.) Still those 4 inches are enough to motivate me to stop reaching for empty food. I probably should start think about shredding.

Thanks to everyone, this thread is really inspiring and motivating.

poisonedbypen · 19/04/2016 22:01

How do you make gram flour flatbread, please? Gram flour is chick pea? I think.

H3l3naGraham · 19/04/2016 22:17

Hi poisoned and TonyO - yes, gram flour is low carb & best way to find recipe is to log onto the recipe part of the BSD site, if I could reconcile my iPad, bberry & laptop, I would post it here now, but am technically challenged. VVVVV sorry, honestly it is simple. Gram flour can be bought at healthfood shops. Cheap as chips.

peas - please do explain about your knees.... Do you have a strange line across one like mine do...?

moo - I have no idea how I got to 14st .... But now I am at 12.5 & I feel slimmer (that is what matters!) , chins & tums have gone, you'll do it too - one morning you'll wake up & feel like you are like the person inside your head!

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H3l3naGraham · 19/04/2016 22:26

Hope this works, copied from BSD site, gram flour/chick-pea flatbreads:

Ingredients
• Chickpea flour ( Besan) 9oz
• Water( enough to make a thin batter)
• Olive oil- 1 tbsp
• SeasoningI use chilli flakes, celery seed, pepper, onion powder, choose your own to taste
Method
Put chickpea flour in bowl, add enough water to make a thin pancake batter whisking well as you go 

Add seasoning , and then leave for 2-3hrs, when ready to use whisk in olive oil 

Heat frying pan on medium heat, if not nonstick lightly brush with olive oil 

Swirl batter into pan , and cook till brown and crisp, turn over and cook the other side 

Freezes well 


PS i don't leave it that long to settle, like pancakes, until you get the knack, some are wee, some are like felt-boards, others are perfect!

yumyumpoppycat · 19/04/2016 22:49

Not2b they give toast and tea in England too, toast and tea are 100% why I have a weight problem, ok maybe 90 % - chocolate also shares some blame Wink funnily I usually ended up giving my toast to dp after childbirth, the one time I could have eaten it guilt free Confused I do remember a very delicious starbucks sandwich my brother brought me in hospital the day after i had ds 1 and I can still remember how amazing it was 10 years later! Best. Sandwich. Ever.

Stop thinking about bread!! {slaps self}

Had an 'off' day today but On It Like a Bonnet tomorrow!

Peasandsweetcorn · 19/04/2016 22:51

H3 everyone else in the entire world has the same shaped knee cap except me. They have one, smooth bit of bone on their knee. Mine seems to be made up of at least three if not four bits and appears wider than everyone else's. This isn't an issue to do with being overweight. I noticed it when I first when to secondary school when I was 5'3" and weighed less than 8 stone and played loads of sport. A few years later I noticed my knees were different heights. I try & avoid looking at them as I can't understand why they're so different!
I did get very excited at the swimming pool a couple of years ago when I spotted someone with similar knees to me.

yumyumpoppycat · 19/04/2016 22:52

..lol re george clooney vs an egg sandwich H313

yumyumpoppycat · 19/04/2016 22:54

I have very unsexy legs and knees :{{ they look ok from the side but too much like ms Trunchbull in Matilda movie from the front.

Not2bObvious · 19/04/2016 22:58

I'd nearly have another baby for the tea & toast🍞🍼👶🏼 Ok maybe not😖 I'm afraid I've had a few rich tea, isn't that shocking carry on? Bring me the bonnet, I need to hurl myself on it! I went for a walk earlier and ended up in the supermarket...looking at stuff like an odd one. Spent some time ogling the wine, then a few minutes contemplating the chocolate & crisps section. I didn't buy anything and was probably lucky I didn't get stalked by a store detective. What passes for entertainment in my life right now...

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yumyumpoppycat · 19/04/2016 23:33

We will all have to cling on for dear life!

Michael Mosley - Blood sugar diet Part2
Breadandwine · 19/04/2016 23:52

B&W are you trying to start a riot Blush

It's all Breadandwine's fault, troublemaker! Blush

While it's true I'm covered with shame and embarrassment - it was Graham who mentioned it first:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, have no bread in the house

I hope you realise I'm constitutionally incapable of ignoring such a plea! Grin

But I admit I didn't consider the wider implications of my response! Blush

However, consider this:
None of you BSDers will be on this WOL forever. There will come a day when you either revert to 5:2, and/or graduate to maintenance. In both those cases, bread will no doubt figure to some extent.

In the meantime, keep your eyes on the prize and ignore idiots like me! Grin

In an attempt to recover some lost ground, I have a couple of suggestions as to how posters can reduce their wine intake.

What helped me was to go completely dry for a month - well, I lasted 3 weeks until we went out for dinner with friends. However, this showed me that I didn't need to drink every day. The second thing I learned was that I could gradually reduce the amount I drank - simply by appreciating every sip. Previously, I would pour myself a decent glass of wine to have with dinner - then, not long after, there would be half an inch in the bottom of the glass - and I hadn't noticed!

So I slowly reduced the amount in the glass, took smaller sips, and it wasn't long before I only had half a small glass a night - perhaps 50-75ml. But I was enjoying every drop.

I then saw a BBC Trust me I'm a Doctor-type programme which showed that even 21 units of wine a week affected the liver adversely. (Specifically, over a four-week period, the liver showed increased rigidity of 25%.) So I took BigChoc's suggestion on board and went 2:5 with alcohol - only drinking at the weekend.

In about 5 months I've gone down from 21-28 units a week to around 6-8 units. Apart from the Dry November attempt, it's been very much a case of 'small steps'.

I had a bit of a NSV in this regard last Sunday. Whilst mowing the lawn at around 5pm, I looked at the time and thought, "Ah, 5 0'clock, eh? Time for a chilled glass of water shandy." Then I realised it was a Sunday and I could have a beer, instead! Grin

And very nice it was, too! Smile

TonyOrlando · 20/04/2016 05:57

Thanks H3l3naGraham. I'll swing by the shops tonight.

Not eating sandwiches for dinner has meant I've cut out a lot of unhealthy fillings. I've really been enjoying cooking from scratch and meal planning. Can't believe I've stuck at it for 3 weeks.

Obs2016 · 20/04/2016 07:03

SmileGrinBread? Are we talking thick white loaf turned into a bacon butty.
I haven't eaten bread for ages, but at the end I sure will treat myself to something similar.

H3l3naGraham · 20/04/2016 07:19

Oh my good grief, Liver Rigidity...... Aaaarrgghhh................ Thank you bread&wine I shall hold onto that thought next time I reach for a glass...........

I got down to only drinking 2-3 days a week for close to 3 months as well until last week, but as well as being terrified of diabetes I am equally terrified about liver disease.

So SHAPE UP she shouts at self in mirror.

Love the postings, great bonnet!!!

Off to the big smoke today, lunchtime reception...... (Think liver disease.......)Shock

Elvish · 20/04/2016 07:37

20 minutes hiit for beginners done Angry

thenewaveragebear1983 · 20/04/2016 07:43

Morning toast fans! Bread has never been a big deal for me, too many years of school packed lunches, wafer thin ham on white sogy bread left to fester in a locker with my p.e. kit all day.......
While on slimming world, I used this little 'bread' replacement, thought I'd share. It sounds rank but its quite nice....get some Scandinavian bran crackers from Holland and barrett, or you can use a tbsp of powdered bran. Soften the cracker in hot water and add to a beaten egg, season and dry fry in a non stick pan so it's like a pancake/omelette but very thin. You can then use it as a wrap/fill it with sandwich stuff. Its not bread, but it does the job of bread in certain situations (tastes a bit like egg bread and nice hot with bacon in it....)

Not2bObvious · 20/04/2016 08:02

Morning all. Feeling very yucky this morning, went for a quick walk & when I got home I just felt rank. Hopefully it will pass but something's brewing and it'll either come up or come out - tmi, very sorry but I like to share my miseries/musings as you may have gathered.
End of week 4 part 2 and I've lost 6lb over that time, making my total lose since the 16th Feb 12.6lb
My week off in March set me back 3 pound, I don't regret it though. It proved I could get back on plan even after a significant derail.
I still have weight to lose, I'm 11.4 now. I have 2-3 goals -> 10.11, 10,4 and my dream goal for years 9.11, but I know this mightn't look good for me now.
All in all, I'm delighted to have lost that amount of weight over 9 weeks. If I lose 1 pound a week going forward doing a variation of this plan, I will be thrilled!

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oolaroola · 20/04/2016 08:08

Morning all!

Bread! Aargh! I'm almost dreading the psychological battle to come when i reach the maintenance phase.

Starting week 3 here. Have lost 1 pound in the last week, making 7lbs in total. Guess I've reached that tricky plateau part where your liver is doing something weird? I'm not so good on the sciency bit.
Going to keep on keeping on and try to increase the exercise, I did really well in the first week and not so good in the second. Off for a big walk after breakfast and I'm roller skating this eve so that should make me feel all virtuous.

The psychological part of all this has been the real challenge for me, and in equal measure interesting, like getting to know my body and mind really well. Nearly caved several times yesterday but managed to stick to the plan.

Have a good day everyone!

H3l3naGraham · 20/04/2016 08:31

Hi all!

Elvish - LOL at 3 yr old Grin

New/bear - I shall give that recipe a try what with the 'loo issues' of this diet, have plenty of bran in the cupboard, anything to make it more palatable is worth a go in my book!

Not2b - because I keep going off-piste at weekends (mainly....... but usually 2 bad days out of 7) I seem to be on a sort of default maintenance level, not gaining, only losing a little in last 2 weeks so next week will give me a real opportunity to get back on that bonnet as life calms down for a bit, am aiming 2lbs nxt week & thereafter, or I'll be sending my new red party frock back before October....

oola - I have plateaued too, but of my own doing, so it will be interesting to see how my brain gets on with a bit more discipline next week, roller-skating would make me feel virtuous too, once I was discharged from hospital!!!!

Right, train to catch, brisk walk to station required.

mootime · 20/04/2016 08:41

Morning all. Feeling better after my evening of self pity! DH very sweetly keeps going on about how well I've done so far.

Liver rigidity is a scary prospect.

My brother who barely drinks has fatty liver disease and is 4 years younger than me. I hate to think what my liver looks like.

Going to walk kids to nursery, then work then a meeting half way through the day which I'm genuinely looking forward to after two days housebound with eldest DS

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 20/04/2016 09:15

Buggered up again last night - those Tesco giant triple chocolate cookies are like crack. I came home all innocently from an evening at my sister's and there was a packet staring me in the face - damn DH!

Weirdly enough, this morning, my 2lb weight gain had gone again despite the aforementioned cookie and handful of Haribo and 2 Ferrero Rocher so I decided to be extra specially exercisey and went out for a run. And it was gloriously sunny and I ran through the fields and it was wonderful! I did week 1 of the Couch 2 5k, so it was less running than walking, but it's the thought that counts. Unfortunately I dropped my phone, cracked the screen and now the touchscreen isn't working, but hey ho. I'm kind of hoping that if I don't touch it it will magically repair itself.