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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Michael Mosley - Blood sugar diet Part2

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Not2bObvious · 23/03/2016 15:17

Bsd part 2

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Not2bObvious · 05/04/2016 06:32

Good idea Mellow and let's face it, it's still cheaper & better for you than joining a slimming club - think of all the money you'll save on artificial sweeteners! Scales reading 11.4.6 today, tomorrow's my official WI so hope to at least sts to have lost 3lb in W2P2. I think, neatly whispering it, I might get to 10'something by the end of part 2. Of course I could just mean the end of this thread, that buys me time 😁

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ICJump · 05/04/2016 07:02

I'm struggling today. Have drunk loads of herbal tea and even had a beef stock drink.

I think it's because I've mainly been at home today. So maybe more temptation.

Thanks for the info about milk. I'm going to stop at 3 coffees this week and go down to 2 next week. Probably good to cut down in the caffeine anyway.

agteacht · 05/04/2016 07:53

Hi all
First week complete. Good start with 4.5lb loss over days 1-3, scuppered then by carbs and trip to Ireland, resulting in 2.25lb loss overall.
Annoyed I messed up so early on but still happy to see a loss at all! Will be sticking to it much more rigidly now for my second week so hope to see a bigger loss...

On running, shame to hear it's not the exercise of choice for this. However i can't recommend c25k highly enough. It's pretty life changing. I have gone from not being able to run AT ALL to plodding along twice a week at a pace of anything between 34 mins after work on a Tuesday to 30 mins for a Saturday 5k park run!

Whilst it might not drive weight loss it can only help overall health, and is a huge confidence boost when you manage to do it! So if you're considering it, give it a try Smile

Starting body control Pilates next week to see if that helps further, I'll let you know!

Everyone's doing so well, hugely inspiring Smile

welshbubba · 05/04/2016 08:15

Hopefully your weight gain is just fluid obs -weird though and sooo frustrating. Well I've lost 0.8 lb so still just off the 21 lb mark. Onward and downward everyone.Smile

Not2bObvious · 05/04/2016 08:27

Well done on the 2.25 ag, was it a great weekend? So close to that 21lb welsh, very exciting - did you say you're also close to breaking into a new stone. I cannot ever remember being 10'something. I was 9.4 at 19, and then 11.2 at 23! Remember nothing of in between except meeting my dh and eating/drinking out a lot. Tired today but determined to drink lots of water and stay on plan. Food planned, hoping it stays nice so I can get a decent walk later

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H3l3naGraham · 05/04/2016 09:54

Hi Obs - must be gutting to see a rise, you have gone the extra mile, but hang on in there, it will resolve itself, don't give up when you have come so far!

I am miffed this morning, spotted it last week, but DH is losing faster then me......on same food.... Grrrrrr - I seem to have the metabolism of a snail Sad

Welsh - sending you heartiest congrats at the 21lb Thanks

Agteacht - we have all strayed, get back on there, NOW!!!!

Just about to leap in the shower & go walkies - missed yesterday as was discombobulated, have decided that I need to shift my lardy ass & do it in the morning, then do work type stuff in the afternoon, otherwise it's too easy to procrastinate........

H3l3naGraham · 05/04/2016 09:57

oops - IC - if you check out the BSD site, you will see that the long-term ears ie 8+ weeks, recommend a fatty nibble, eg almonds, a small piece of cheese if you are desperately hungry, they have all gone with high fat snacks & it does seem to help with the munchies and hasn't impacted their overall weight loss

I would prefer to have my main meal at lunchtime but DH prefers night, which is why I get hungry mid PM, so I eat a small amount of almonds with a hot drink.

Good luck

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/04/2016 10:31

Morning all!

Obs, oh no! That sucks. I bet it whooshes off again, though.

I have lost three-quarters of a pound in 2 days. Off to M&S at lunchtime, Mellow - DH was too lazy to make lunch this morning. I'm pretty sure I'll manage to find something low-carb, possibly with beans.

Not2b, I had a similar transition when I met now-DH - I was 8 stone in 2004 aged 20, after 6 months living in France with almost no money, eating very little and walking everywhere. I didn't pay much attention to my weight, moved in with DH, ate a lot of takeaways and chocolate, got driven everywhere, stopped clubbing and eventually bought scales in 2008 to discover I was 10 stone 10. I went on a diet and joined a gym, got down to 9 stone 6, then hovered somewhere between 9 stone 10 and 10 stone for quite a while, and then got pregnant. 3 pregnancies later I'm back to 10 stone 11. And this is down from 11 stone 5 after Christmas! I just want to lose it and never have to do this again.

welshbubba · 05/04/2016 10:40

So for some reason I decided to weigh myself again after breakfast Hmm. I had yogurt and blueberries and a cup of tea and had had gained nearly 2lb!! How is that possible?? Confused

H3l3naGraham · 05/04/2016 10:42

Me again..... Mellow & 2extra - watch those M&S salads - dressings have sugar & many of the salads also contain wheat, their soups whilst yummy also often have nasties lurking in them, they like sugar do M&S, they even have sugar in their cooked, chilled chicken slices & in their prawns... The naked, cooked ones without any sauce......

On a more positive front Ot2b, you were 100% correct, new posh frock arrived this AM, 2 sizes smaller than I normally wear & it fits like a dream........ Now stuck, do I send it back & get a 14 in the hope that I will be a 14 come October, or keep it & get it altered......

Not2bObvious · 05/04/2016 11:16

Hmm, well do you think it's the type of material/style that will take alteration? And what would it cost to do that? Its a tough one, I have to say I'd be tempted to get the smaller sizeShock

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welshbubba · 05/04/2016 11:35

October is 6 months away. You're bound to be smaller by then!

mootime · 05/04/2016 11:51

Morning all.
Day 2 of restart here and have had to have a proper coffee as I've been up since 3.30....
Hit a bone broth for lunch at 120 cals and then will have a daylesford tagine with cauliflower couscous and salad for supper.

Magically the bloat from my bad week off has disappeared overnight so I'm back at 170 lb. It would be amazing to get back into 16??

I'll try and have a propper thread catch up later!

Sputnik · 05/04/2016 11:56

Obs, sounds like the scales/water/something is playing tricks on you, you can't have put on 6lbs!

Laska your plan sounds fine to me, I take weekends "off", and it doesn't stop me from losing steadily. Wine, pizza (because DH makes it) and even cake (because DD makes them) are usually involved but otherwise I try to avoid refined carbs and stay within TDEE. I've still lost on average 1kg a week.

I'm on day 2 of my second bout at 800, yesterday was a breeze, today not so much, but will stick with it.

Someone was asking up thread about meal timing, I think you have to find what suits you, I do all my eating in an 8 hour window as I find it easy to skip breakfast. I usually eat around 2ish, if I eat earlier I get hungrier sooner and then find myself with fewer calories to play with, so 2 meals works best for me.

H3l3naGraham · 05/04/2016 13:01

HI WELSH HI NOT2B - I think I might have to swap, it's a clingy type of fabric with a lace over-dress and I'm not too sure it will take to altering, size 14 it will have to be then!!! RESULT!! Smile

Just back from walk, note to self, need to walk near loos, drinking litres of fluid is not conducive to any walk of any length more than 10 minutes..... Saw otter though, remarkable!!

Afternoon Sputnik & Moo - you have given me any idea about dinner tonite, cauli couscous instead of lentils, have cauli lurking in fridge permanently, will go nicely with salmon topped with harissa sauce - yummy!!

Note to gods of predictive spelling...... It just swapped harissa for barista.....hmm.... Never had to check what I type as much as this in the past, is it my iPad or the MN App????

H3l3naGraham · 05/04/2016 13:51

Dress swapped, thank heavens for John Lewis, collecting size 16, delivering size 14 Grin. Well chuffed!!!!

mootime · 05/04/2016 13:55

H3. That's great news!

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/04/2016 14:02

H3I3 - oh. I just saw your post, after eating an M&S salad! It was an M&S Nutty Superfoods salad, with quinoa, hummus and cannelini beans with sesame tahini dressing. I read the pack and it said 2.2g of sugars, 9g carbs. That would normally have seemed like quite a lot of carbs for me, but I assumed it was all the beans in it. It was 385 calories. Do you think it will have been ok? I used to operate on the basis of only buying stuff that had less than 3g of carbs per 100g, but I wasn't sure what level to go for with hummus and beans being allowed on this diet. I have binned the wrapper now so I can't check if it had wheat in it (am at work - I'm not going to rummage in the bin!). I sincerely hope it's ok - it was delicious!

Sputnik · 05/04/2016 14:23

Cheddar that sounds ok to me, 9g of carbs seems quite little. Under 50g is still considered low carb. The fact that you are allowed pulses with BSD is one of my favourite things about it, but you do have to be careful with them if you want to stay really low carb, so for example I had 70gs of lentils with my lunch, which was 14gs of carbs. On the other hand they are great for fibre and keeping things moving, as it were, and for keeping you full.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/04/2016 15:00

Thanks, Sputnik! On closer examination it was 9g of carbs per 100g, so a total of 27g altogether. That's still under 50, though - dinner is going to be chicken salad, so I surely won't have many carbs in that!

H3I3, that dinner sounds lush!

H3l3naGraham · 05/04/2016 15:25

Hi ExtraCheddar - am sure the salad was just fine, stick to a max of 50g of carbs per day & you will be ok. There's a difference between net & gross carbs, something to do with fibre, the liver processes fibre but stores the rest, but I am a technical plank and cannot comment with any authority on the science,sorry.

I get very angry with the supermarkets for squeezing in sugar where we'd least expect it. B-stards......

Need to be so vigilant, working from home now most of my business meetings are after 6PM, when everyone else gets back from their workplace, so I can make salads & soups easily, but if I was back in an office again, I would struggle, squinting at the ingredients in a supermarket queue..... Used to eat a lot of sushi/California rolls when I worked in London, but they are out now as white rice = toxic, there was me thinking they were a healthy option.......

Easy isn't it to stack on the weight isn't it......a few California rolls here, a couple of extra gasses of wine there, a healthy tomato-based pasta meal for dinner.......... Oops 3-4 stone overweight.....

Anyone else hear Dr M/The Big Choc on Radio 2 today, talking about gut bacteria & its affect on our weight, fascinating, if a bit grim over lunch.... about pooh & all that......?

Sputnik · 05/04/2016 15:27

Ah that sounds more like it, I was wondering how they got all that in with just 9gs of carbs.
50gs per day is not written in stone I don't think, especially if you go a little over one day then under the next, but I think I lose better if I stay around that level.

Sputnik · 05/04/2016 15:33

Yes I seem to remember from Atkins you were supposed to count net carbs, ie carbs minus fibre. But I think the carb allowance was lower than 50gs so it pans out. Also it's my understanding of BSD that the idea is not to low carb for low carbs sake IYSWIM, but to avoid refined carbs and other things that spike blood sugar.

H3l3naGraham · 05/04/2016 15:37

Yes, Sputnik - simple carbs = devil food, complex carbs = manna .........

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TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 05/04/2016 15:49

Is TheBigChoc Dr Mosley??

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