Michael Mosley - Blood sugar diet

[Yddraigoldragon]

Just wondering if anyone has tried this and how it went? I am about ten days in and coping well so far.

I have been low carbing for years on and off, and on 5:2 since Sept which seems to make the fasting easier.

Mootime yes, I guess that's my problem. If I have breakfast I'm starving by 10 (e.g. plain yoghurt w blueberries, or an egg) but if I have nothing I can go till lunch time no problem. So I never eat breakfast (plus I'm always too busy and in a rush getting everyone ready).

But 2 days in a row I am quite a bit short of the 88 mark. I can't eat useful and tasty things like nuts as am allergic to them so struggle to eat enough.

If I ate e.g. 3 small meals I would be ravenous and struggle to keep under 1200.

Brilliant loss, BrownDog

Re variety & spice:
Spice it up - ginger, cinammon, garlic, mint etc

Also, BSD low carb is about avoiding starches as sides, but imo don't worry about a spoon of flour in a sauce or crust. Cauli cheese is fine.

Mumsnet Recipes:
8 tasty low cal recipes from MN FDs - avoid the one with Thai noodles
Also 14 MN low carb recipes - maybe need to mfp for calories here

YumYum Dumbells are a substitute anytime for barbells.
I'd personally keep kettles to no more than 1 session per week, because they are aerobic and tend to stress the system more

It's judging the sweet point on a vlcd:
enough exercise to load the muscles and keep your metabolic rate raised, but not so much that your body is exhausted and increases cortisol.

If you feel tired, try to reduce the duration of exercise, rather than the number of days you do it.
Even 20 mins lifting a few days per week is great
Try to build up to 10,000 daily steps

moo re: the cauli cheese, it was bought ready made from asda but have just checked and it is only 10g of carbs. I am actually well under my personal maximum target of 30g of carbs a day, so am happy with that. However I am fast heading towards 1100 cals. But that is one day, maybe two if tomorrow is the same. It is well under my previous daily intake, and I will get back on the 800 cals asap.

Re: meals, I split the 800 into 2, have lunch around 12.30 and an evening meal around 7. It keeps me in the 16:8 pattern as well. I do get hunger pangs mid morning and mid afternoon but just down up to half a litre of water which helps, and keeps me on course for my 2l a day

yumyum I figure if it gets me through the pmt munchies without resorting to the cakes, full fat coke, pasta salads, chocolates and hot chocolate sold at work (my usual trick), then low carb, higher cals is probably the way to go.

Elvish no ideas for tomorrow I'm afraid, but could you suggest to management that they get a wider selection of food for future days?

lrb I totally agree that if you feel hungry, eat more of the low carb food. You'll remain in ketosis and burning body fat, which you won't if you grab bread or booze etc.
A couple of days per week, even on 1500 cals low carb, could make this WOE more sustainable but still keep you losing steadily.

Ernest, moo Try just having brunch / lunch and supper for your 800 cals.

It doesn't matter if those on BSD 5:2 or 4:3 are well under 800 cals on FDs, because they eat plenty the other days.
However, Ernest on daily BSD, you do need to aim for 800 cals, so you obtain sufficient nutrients. Try these:

Healthy low carb high cal food:
. Avocado
. Hummus, taramasalata, tzatziki
. Oily fish, e.g. salmon, mackerel
. Full fat Greek yoghurt
. Berries with cream
. Drizzle olive oil on salad or roast veg
. Piece of hard cheese
. Cheese omeletee
. Bacon, eggs, tomato, mushroom fryup
. For those not allergic- unsalted nuts, nut butters without added sugar / palm oil

For constipation or to reach 800 (120 cals) !

• 1 tbsp olive oil
• 1 teasp lemon juice

Best to take on an empty tum, so early morning or a few hrs after eating.

So, I've got the book today and have started reading it and just wondering: is this only for pre diabetic and t2 diabetics???
I have problems with sugar and my mum has recently been in hospital with pancreatitis. so thought the diet would be good for me

thanks for the ideas. I have tried drinking a couple of cups of soaked flax seeds. Nervous of doing so with the oil as it sounds a bit ominous and potential for disaster. might have to wait for a day I'm not working

Mootime definitely try eating lunch. I do that but try and leave it as late as possible. Today I ate lunch early and regretted it, getting through the afternoon was tougher!

Lunch ideas: today I had a huge coleslaw made with red cabbage, fennel and carrots with a dressing of lemon juice and greek yougurt, with some left over salmon from last night. It keeps well so would be fine in a lunch box and goes well with lots of things (I think. My family makes fun of my excessive coleslaw consumption). Yesterday was raw veg and hummus with a bit of cheese, also very easy, quick and portable.

Earnest there must be something you fancy to bring you up to 800? Chunk of cheese, yogurt, an extra bit of oil here and there?

Today was quite tough but I managed to get through it, that makes 3 days in a row of 800 or near enough.

I had a really nice dinner, defo agree with previous comments that is key for making the low cals work.

Thanks Bigchoc, I am surprised about kettlebells so that's good to know. I did a 25 min squat and lungetastic workout today.

Everyone is doing really well!

Uphill as I understand it the diet is not only for diabetics or pre diabetics, but for those at risk of becoming so. On the website there's an NHS test that assesses your risk.

Uphill It was designed to reverse T2 or preT2, but would also really suit anyone who is only starting to becoming insulin resistant, i.e. some way from danger.
Classic signs of this are:
. carb / sweet cravings
. tending towards apple shape, with fat accumulating around the waist.

However, even someone without any blood sugar issues should lose well on a daily 800-cal diet and the low carb with beans & pulses makes it healthier and more doable than a typical vlcd.

Dr M warns that the BSD, like 5:2 is not suitable for anyone with a past or present diagnosed Eating Disorder - but someone with an ED really needs professional rl help, whatever their diet.

Really enjoying the comments. Especially interesting the idea of fasting, not eating 3 meals.
I was doing quite well, was being very strict, until last night, when after a very nice frittata (dh says why do you call it frittata? It just a posh omelette!!) , I went out with my friend and consumed 2 bottles of dry white wine. Oh dear. Oh well. Onwards and upwards.

Frittata

Hi all. Thanks for the tips.
I'm not fasting today but I'm going to try tomorrow and will def try a small lunch. And see if that helps me get through.
I'm proud of myself for managing to do my normal Thursday morning cafe trip with friends and kids and be the only one without a croissant.
Small NSV!

Well I managed to resist the pizza - but sitting here with my hummus and veg watching everyone else eat was really hard . There is loads left over and I still really want a slice, even if it is cold.

I've also been awarded a large bag of Maltesers as a thank you, which I have shoved in the bottom of my bag and I will feed to DH later.

That's brilliant Elvish, that's some commitment. You've just strengthened your will power.
I haven't had bread, potato, rice or pasta in 10 days & it's not that bad. Putting loads of thought into my food, it's definitely paying off. Down 7.4lb as of today 😁

Stay strong, Elvish You've done very well to resist the pizza - a real weight bomb of carbs & fat.
Just like that croissant, Moo

I'm sure MrElvish will appreciate the Maltesers - don't have even one, or you'll inhale half the packet and lick the wrapper, too moreish !

Congrats on your SV, Not2b Excellent progress.
Avoiding starches really helps burn fat on the BSD

I could've murdered a slice of toast yesterday but today was absolutely fine, other than that I'm not missing starchy stuff.
As I'm pretty much on 2 meals a day I was missing the breakfast I often used to have - greek yogurt, nuts and pomegranate - so had that at lunchtime today. That kept me full all afternoon and dinner was lentils, smoked mackerel and slices of raw pepper, was pretty good.

Does anyone know WHY you can't do this while breastfeeding? I was all geared up to start but I'm still bfing my almost 2 year old. What will happen if I have 800 cals for 8 weeks and carry on breastfeeding? (he has all the usual meals and snacks)

That's a good low carb regime, sputnik

Eggs Daily 800 cals could interfere with your supply, but the advice may apply more for those BFing in the first 6 months. Is your lo drinking much still ?
On standard 5:2, we suggest BFers can have slightly higher calories on FDs, but those feeding toddlers find they don't usually need the extra cals.
So, on the BSD, maybe you could try daily 1000 cals and see how it goes ?

Thanks for the advice bigchoc and for all the wisdom on the exercise thread too! It makes sense to drop some swimming/running. Would it make a difference if I ate a little more on those days (maybe a protein shake straight after) if I carried on, or is it bye bye for 8 weeks?! Agree with what you said that it would improve performance in the long run though - I'm 3.5st too heavy at the moment. Going to try press ups tomorrow when hopefully this period headache will have cleared.

Today hasn't been great - 1100 cals, 68g carbs and only 58g protein. Had milky coffee and 25g nuts for breakfast; cottage cheese, salad including some probably carby cherry tomatoes and butter beans for lunch; peppadew peppers with cream cheese, olives and artichokes for dinner with some fried mushrooms. Milk in tea and coffee.

I obviously can improve but tricky in the absence of meat, fish or eggs. I've got some low carb protein powder on order from Ocado - may give that a go once a day.

well done to all the losers and moo and elvish amazing willpower! My office had homemade doughnuts, chocolate fudge, maltesers, minstrels, meringues and hobnobs today all just sitting out by the tea and coffee 😩

I really wanted toast this morning Sputnik, I so nearly ate half a slice the DC had left as I was clearing the breakfast plates. It's the type of thing I usually do, bits of toast, half a fish finger...

I'm feeling really full after my evening meal, chilli with cauliflower rice. Now I just need to get rid of this headache and I'll feel brilliant