Is 4 kids too many?

[Mumsie2024]

Hi, would like to know your thoughts?
is 4 kids a step too far? Currently have 3 kids and thinking I’d like a 4th but not sure if it’s hormones!
What's the verdict?

No. Still grotty.

How many were in your own family growing up? And how many did your parents and grandparents have? A lot more than 2 I'm sure. So get off your high horse, you probably wouldn't be here had they not had big families.

Personally don’t think anyone should be having more than 2 these days as there are far too many people around as it is. Irrespective of wealth.

Probably yes.

But these days people have more disposable income than they had 30+ years ago. People were poverty stricken back then and still survived. Who are you to say how many kids people should have? As long as they are loved and provided for that's all that matters.

WTF?
I haven't ignored any other posters. I am talking about MY kids' opinions of growing up in a large family. Which are positive.

As it happens I am also from a large family and my siblings are a wonderful gang that I love knowing. My life has been enriched by having 3 siblings instead of 1. No doubt at all.

The planting a tree example was just an example of simple pleasures that are free, since the few posts above (yours, in fact) were suggesting that small families "prefer to invest more time and effort in a more controlled environment as parents in order to cultivate bonsai". Mine are growing a massive horse chestnut. It amused me.

Blue shoes is obviously a troll answer should be ignored from now on!

*and should

Well the planet is fucked but never mind “love is all that matters”. 🙄🙄

Oh, I thought it was all about the financial stability of your adult children but now it is about saving the planet?

Such a ridiculous argument. Maybe go argue with the millionaire jet setters who buy new trainers every day and eat caviar for lunch..oh and farmers, farm animals and meat eaters ..large businesses the list goes on 😵‍💫
The fact of the matter is we need to replace the elderly or we will have no nurses or carers to look after our generation . Not enough food or resources. But you keep your blinkers on.

Why are they? They just feel strongly about huge families.

It's ok, I am one of 4 kids too, and 2 of my siblings have no kids, so I have just taken one sibling's allocations.

My 4 don't use much more resources wise than a family of 2. We don't do much in the way of plane travel. They used hand me down clothes, bikes, toys, etc.

A family of 2 different sexed children each getting new clothes and toys and taking a holiday abroad each year is easily using as many resources as us.

The vegans are back 😂

@blueshoes
Sounds like a rose-tinted wet dream from the parents' angle.
Ask the child what they think. Actually, why bother because the child's perspective of growing up with a big family on benefits can never be as important as compared to their parents thinking they have big hearts.

My children's views are their own, they are unsolicited and, unsurprisingly, they describe a commonality of shared memories.
I don't just believe they have big hearts, I see it in their daily lives.
They have experienced life with me on benefits for nearly a year.
Two are Oxbridge, one hopes to be and the other is still deciding.

🤣 Again, nobody on MN has one or two because they like to have fancy holidays or they'd rather have more free time to do hobbies. It's always for very worthy reasons. Saving the planet and financing the adult lives of their barely conceived children are always the answer. I guess everyone likes to have a hero narrative 🤣

This argument is pathetic. Just because there were big families in the past does not justify the same in the present.

If you were born of rape, does that justify rape?

I meant to quote this post of Thornybush: How many were in your own family growing up? And how many did your parents and grandparents have? A lot more than 2 I'm sure. So get off your high horse, you probably wouldn't be here had they not had big families.

You wish. I have been around for a while, opining on a wide range of topics.

Yes, people who stop at one or two do think about such things. We have been saying that so not sure which thread you are on.

It’s all relative, people with 3 or more kids could have more spending power and a higher salary than those with < 3. Just because someone has more than 2 kids doesn’t mean they don’t think about their affordability. You are presuming everyone earns the same.

Yes, too many

OP thinks that Elon Musk gives good advice...

Unless there are major changes in housing affordability trends, there is no way kids today are going to afford a house without parental help.

So I’m presuming you are in the woke brigade?

What’s the woke brigade?