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2015 Running Thread Part 7

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Anglaise1 · 03/09/2015 10:59

New running thread...
running total for September so far:
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custardcreamdreams · 20/10/2015 16:58

Cross-posted with Suzanne

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lastqueenofscotland · 20/10/2015 16:59

I'm glad I'm not the only tape up and carry on one!

Going to go out with club tonight and see how it feels, will then make informed (basically if my foot doesn't fall off were racing) decision from there.

suzannecaravaggio · 20/10/2015 17:04

I think much of it is trial and error Custard, but I have no experience of in run fueling.

I need to wait 4-5 hours after eating or I feel too uncomfortable to run, so I don't think I could ever cope with distances where you need to eat during the run :(

Anglaise1 · 20/10/2015 19:08

Custard fueling really depends on you personally. You can read guidelines everywhere but what suits one person won't necessarily suit another. Your body can run for 2 hours without needing food or water (unless it is very hot) and some people run marathons without taking anything at all. I prefer not to eat or drink if I can help it because I get terrible GI problems.
Matt Fitzgerald's book The New Rules of Marathon and Half-Marathon Nutrition is very informative and a good read.
Hills aren't for everyone but I enjoy doing them...I much prefer running uphill to running down steep hills.
Suzanne having seen the wrinkles of the Ironman woman on Sunday I will definitely be more meticulous about high factor sunscreen in the future.
13 miles from me today, unintentional because I thought we started gym strength training sessions with the club this evening but we didn't so I ended up running too much!
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emummy · 20/10/2015 20:12

custard walking is always a part of my hill runs!

Wtfmummy · 20/10/2015 20:22

Hope you don't mind me joining but I have just started up running so would love to follow this thread for tips and tricks. I've ran twice in the past 4 days, 2 miles each - had to stop 4 times the first time and only twice the second time - small achievement but felt good!

I've signed up to do a half marathon in March. Do you guys think I have given myself an unachievable target or is this doable? Planning on running every other day and just slowly increasing the distance..

I'm not a natural runner, definitely carrying a good 1.5 stone more than I should, have 3 DSs, littlest one is 10 weeks...pelvic floor muscles aren't quite what they used to be! Confused

cinnamongreyhound · 20/10/2015 21:00

I love a mug emummy!!

Thanks Anglaise1, was just frustrating as my road 10k in August was 57m something so that's a huge difference! Sorry you had your gi probs. One of my club mates has done the round Norfolk relay 'leg of death' the last two years and does better than a lot of me and I think that because of her weight in the sand, although she's quick (20min 5k).

It was the smallest mars bar I've EVER seen Loueytb3, had to eat it quick so as not to share the two bites with ds's!

Hi Wtfmummy, I have 3 ds's too, 8, 5 and 6months Smile please feel free to add your miles to our running total in bold at the end of posts.

4 miles in the dark from me with two others and my doggies, had a row with dh before I left so ran quickly to start with then my friend had tummy pain so we walked a bit then she managed to carry on 918.76 including Wtfmummy's miles.

lastqueenofscotland · 20/10/2015 21:19

Welcome wtfmummy

About 5 miles all in from tonight intervals. Post tib felt awful but ok once we got going and by the end wasn't an issue.

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Anglaise1 · 20/10/2015 21:34

CinnersBlush so sorry, I didn't twig that your usual 10k time is under an hour, just not Sunday's! It just goes to show how you can't compare different races for PB race times. I'm going to do my 3rd 10k (my 2 year anniversary of first ever race) at the end of November. I hate the race, it is largely around estates in a town near Rennes and not pretty, but it is a benchmark of whether or not I've improved since starting running. Last year I was borderline anaemic and 2 mins slower than my first race time which was frustrating because of all the training I'd done.

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custardcreamdreams · 21/10/2015 15:51

Thanks for the advice and book recommendations Suzanne and Anglaise. I am ever so pleased you said that emummy!

Angry miles are the best Cinnamon :)

Hi wtfmummmy. I started c25k Feb last year and was up to hm distance by July so I do think 5 months is achievable. I would see how it goes. Power to you getting out there with a ten week old, I barely dragged myself to the shower back in those days!

cinnamongreyhound · 21/10/2015 16:02

That's alright Anglaise1, I don't expect you to remember everyone's race times Grin

Ive entered Cambridge half, yay!

Purpletoes · 21/10/2015 17:39

Welcome wftmummy I am like you and cinners my DD is 8 months now.
I too am carrying some extra weight but it's going slowly. Still eating too much chocolate Blush. I haven't run any races longer than 10k but am looking into one or two. I have tried for years to take up running properly but this is the first time I have managed to stick at it. And I love it!

I have a race on Sunday. Local cross Country league. 9km with apparently a killer hill at the beginning of course and its a 2 lap race! Will see how we do. Haven't done cross country since school.

Only 3.1 from me had club run last night. But it was shorter than usual as we did some pyramids in the middle. Actually right outside my house so on jog back to club I detoured home early as DD is teething and being a bit of a madam. DH was most grateful! Wink

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FiftyNineOhEight · 21/10/2015 20:35

Cinners are you going to do the CBR again next year? I am planning on Bedford half in December and then something in the spring Smile.

I haven't run for ten days Shock. I have clocked some silly hours at work over the last week or so but now have a week off so I hope to get some miles in.

cinnamongreyhound · 21/10/2015 20:50

It depends how close it is the Cambridge half FiftyNineOhEight, I enjoyed it but really wanted to do the central one and get a spangly medal. It also goes through some of the bits the cbr did like grantchester. 10 days, I'd be terrified I couldn't run anymore, although having ds3 made me a little more sensible about that!

Anglaise1 · 21/10/2015 21:17

When is the Cambridge HM Cinnamon?
Purple good luck with your cross country event. Here in France the races are shorter, a 'long' cross country for women is around 5 or 6km, for men 9 or 10 and the shorter ones, well, even shorter!
They are really intense and more for younger runners too here, the speed at the start in the one I did was around 16kph. And you have to like mud and hills which I do but it isn't for everyone. Our cross country events start in January so we are just starting the training for them. Lots of hills and mud of course!
5.5 miles with the dog.
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FiftyNineOhEight · 21/10/2015 21:47

Cinnamon based on last year's date for the CBR they look like they might be a week apart (they wouldn't have them on the same weekend would they?).

Grin at not being able to run any more. I hope not! I will find out tomorrow afternoon Smile

cinnamongreyhound · 21/10/2015 21:56

They were a week apart the year we did the cbr FiftyNineOhEight. It's 28th Feb Anglaise1, I pre registered so got to enter a day early Grin 7000 runners, so by far my biggest run.

suzannecaravaggio · 21/10/2015 21:57

I recon a 10 day gap would leave you feeling pretty fresh running wise?

KeyserSophie · 22/10/2015 02:07

I would eventually like to consider a marathon once dd starts nursery and I've time to train but am clueless about the fuelling part.

[gets on podium, adjusts mic]. IMO, one of the errors runners make when working up to longer distances is that they fuel their training runs far too heavily - I see this a LOT on a FB forum I'm on where people are recommending gels for 6 mile runs- craziness. These runners don't then improve their ability to burn fat to fuel longer distances (because they're drip feeding glucose in) which is not ideal because fat (your own) has to be your primary fuel source to attain any sort of endurance, and that has to be learned via the long slow run. Then, at the other end of the spectrum you have the " carbs are the devil" people who fuel races by eating neat peanut butter with only 2 hrs to run, which is pointless because it takes your body 3 hrs to turn the fat in peanut butter into energy. It's great for ultra runners (I use it in races over 6 hrs) but not really for anything under a marathon, especially as it requires energy to digest. Even worse, I've seen protein bars recommended- protein is only used as fuel of last resort. You really don't want to be eating them as race fuel.

In races you want to go as close to glucose as you can as this is the fastest and most energy efficient way of delivering fuel to your muscles, but this is GI dependent as not everyone can tolerate chugging down sugar for hours on end. I use a caffeinated energy/electrolyte powder called Tailwind (diluted a bit more than recommended) and then top up with gel cubes/ sweets as I go. Therefore, as people have said, there's a lot of trial and error involved. I often have a Mcmuffin/ cheeseburger before races of 6 hrs plus which I'm sure is in no running book ever, but really seems to do the trick. It stops me getting the gnawing hunger around the 4 hr mark. Most critically though is starting with topped up glycogen levels and a good level of hydration.

In training I would recommend just going for a good quality diet with a reasonably high percentage of favourable carbs (e.g rice, jkt potato, not Haribo) and good protein intake (but no need to go crazy on that).

The marketing of gels/ protein/ electrolyte powders etc has increased massively and to grow the market they are persuading people who don't really need them to use them. I think they have their place, but they're overused.

5 to add from me to make 937.36. Ankle is tolerable but not great. Really hoping it miraculously fixes itself for my 70k race next Saturday.

Anglaise1 · 22/10/2015 07:25

Great post Keyser!
The whole 'fueling' thing has indeed become a huge industry with marketing suggesting you need far more than in fact you do.
I don't use gels or any protein or carb powder, just water or diluted squash. I have a sensitive stomach and threw up last time I took a carb drink so I haven't touched one since. For fuel on 2 hour plus outings I eat at the food stations, either bananas or raisons because they are easy to get down. If doing a long trail race with liited food stations I take my own jelly beans.
Fueling is really a very personal decision.
Fingers crossed your ankle improved before next weekend Keyser. My training buddy has the Diagonale de Fous on the Reunion Island at 10pm this evening. I have my fingers crossed for her too!

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cinnamongreyhound · 22/10/2015 07:34

4 miles from me with my friend and dogs 941.36

emummy · 22/10/2015 09:51

Wee run in the woods. Had boot camp yesterday and legs were pretty stiff so not very fast - but then I never am!
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Purpletoes · 22/10/2015 13:39

4.5 miles from me as my DMIL looked after DD. Did a couple of hill reps in preparation for race on Sunday. So not too fast.
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suzannecaravaggio · 22/10/2015 15:14

11 miles from me, I was slow and I have worse pita since running with my other half although the 2 may be co incidental

It's ok running the odd mile or 2 here and there with him but longer distances and I feel like a Shetland pony trying to keep up with a horseBlush

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FiftyNineOhEight · 22/10/2015 17:14

Still resting Smile

Had a nice 3 mile walk and talk with teenage DS2 who is off for half term - was good to have a proper catch up.

Excellent advice from Keyser