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2015 Running thread part four

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OhOneOhTwoOhThree · 16/03/2015 22:27

Just saw the old thread was nearly full and didn't want us to run out Grin

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Tiredemma · 22/03/2015 19:50

cross posts

1283.7 + my 3.4

1287.1

cinnamongreyhound · 22/03/2015 19:50

Thinking of trying to get a last minute place in St Neots HalleLouja IF I feel up to it as quite a few club mates got last minute drop out places last year. Sorry you didn't feel so well but glad you were seen, you finished and feel ok now. I don't use gels but jelly babies in hm, usually only 3-4 though.

HalleLouja · 22/03/2015 19:52

I had one Jelly Baby in my last HM and survived fine. This time I had two sports beans and a sweet. Apparently some of my club mates have three gels in a HM.

I may yet be giving my St Neots place up as its DHs 40th birthday the day before.

EdithDickie · 22/03/2015 19:59

Well done Halle, sounds tough. Hope that you are feeling ok now and well done for finishing.

Suzannewithaplan · 22/03/2015 20:21

one Jelly Baby
two sports beans and a sweet

I've read/heard that just a taste of something sweet can give a performance boost, anticipating the imminent arrival of fuel in the form of carbs your body dips into the reserves that it was keeping for emergency use only...something along those lines anyway

Suzannewithaplan · 22/03/2015 20:29

Maybe more muscle is the key
well I guess it could help, but then more muscle = heavier = greater impact forces, etc etc
Possibly more to do with getting them all to function optimally and for all the small supporting muscles to be doing the right thing?

I also think it may be to do with scar tissue in the muscle, foam rollering is supposed to help with that I know, but then again does it really.
Surely massaging inflamed and scarred tissue would just make it worseConfused

so much of what we believe is going on in the various tissues when we have gripes may be just conjectureConfused

EdithDickie · 22/03/2015 20:41

Absolute minefield Suzanne, so many possibilities. Just hope you find something that helps soon.

originalpiratematerial · 22/03/2015 21:08

Just marking my place on the thread - I WILL be back! Look forward to catching up with everyone.

Anglaise1 · 22/03/2015 21:58

Just back from a lovely restaurant, ate Very goid pizza and tirimisu. According to official email from marathon I was 179th woman and 2922nd overall out of 11800 who finished (a lot of runners didn't finish the race)

Anglaise1 · 22/03/2015 22:05

Halle congrats on your HM. I think your way of feeding is right. Unless you are racing for over 2 hours you don't need any food/carb suppléments (gels etc), and you don't need to carb load prior to the race either.

familygermsareok · 22/03/2015 22:23

Well done to all the racers, some great running Smile.
Fantastic time Anglaise, and congrats on PB Edith.
Really well done for finishing Halle, 13 miles is a long way to run and sometimes it is easy to forget just how hard it is till you are doing it.

Congrats to everyone Grin

LaughingM · 22/03/2015 23:42

Wow, well done anglaise - all your hard work paid off! Great time. I bet Italy is a great place to be for post-marathon celebrations as well. I would be in a food coma by now if I were you!

Great work on your half marathons halle and cardiff! Busy weekend on this thread!

I've just done my longest ever run of 9.3 miles. I really, really enjoyed it - new route which was about as trail like as I'm ever going to get in London (Hampstead Heath) and it was great fun staying off the paths and just zigzagging all over the place. I did walk up a few of the steeper bits and stop to take photos at the top but still very very pleased.

Adding on that plus 8.2 collective miles since I last posted = 1304.6

AggressiveBunting · 23/03/2015 05:37

Anglaise that is an epic time. You MUST enter Amsterdam or Berlin as I'm pretty confident you could score a sub 3:30 on a faster course.

Well done Cardiff. I know what you mean about the big races- you feel like you've been standing there for hours whereas if you just do Bracknell you can park right by the start and sit in your car until 4 mins before the gun Grin.

Halle Brilliant effort to finish in those circumstances. I second what the others have said re fuel - if you need gels in a half, either you're going off too fast as you're sucking through glycogen and not maintaining a good balance between fat burn and glygogen burn OR you dont have good glycogen reserves to start with- a possibility if you usually eat a low carb diet or you're training a lot close to the race and not refuelling in between.

Suzanne My suggested solution would be to mix it up a bit- if you're doing pretty much the same mileage on the same flat course every time you run then you're doing a lot of identical stride/ strike. Maybe do some pacier 5 mile runs and then one longer run or find some hills to run up. If you're trying to build speed that would probably be more effective anyway. Pretty sure building more muscle wouldnt help, just on the logic that most good long distance runners are very light on their frames.

Laughing All trail runners walk up the steep bits. I like to think of it as a survival strategy.

5.3 from me this morning makes 1309.9. Treadmill as that's all I had time for. Put a little more pace on it (trying to edge up from 7.5 to 8mph over the next few months so tried 7.65) and it nearly killed me. Even Eminem couldnt persuade me to dig deep and I got off after 43 mins intead of my intended 60. I realised I've actually got quite unused to sustained cardio discomfort. Need to toughen myself up again!!

Suzannewithaplan · 23/03/2015 07:53

Thanks AggressiveB, that does make sense. I'm a bit addicted to the longer cardio sessions which is why I like the ten mile plus runs.
I've tried a shorter run and then an hour on my bike but it's just not the same :( ?

actiongirl1978 · 23/03/2015 07:54

Morning all!

I am totally in awe of you anglaise that is an amazing result! To come so close to the front of the field on your first marathon is fabulous, I bet you are still smiling!

And all the other racers, well done! Halle what do you think went wrong other than maybe the fuel issue? Is is possible you went off a bit fast?I hope you don't mind me asking, I have my first HM next month so am trying to use as much of everyone else's experience as possible!

Suzanne so sorry to hear you are still struggling, did I read you are seeing a physio this week? I hope you get some joy from that. I suppose if it is scar tissue, you could just take some painkillers when you run (assuming it won't damage you further)

I am adding 12.2 miles from yesterday although the .2 didn't count as I forgot to turn my garmin back on after a wee break. A great run in all other respects though. Only two bathroom breaks and only one was the dreaded RR's Grin. It was mild, I tried wearing my shorts on a long run in advance of the HM and there was no chafing - hurrah! I also did 12 miles in 2hr10 and it was still an easy pace. I usually go slower on my LSRs but I wanted to see if I could sustain a slightly faster pace over the near HM distance and I did!

However, my knees are fecked. I have tried ITB rolling and it hasn't made any difference. I felt one knee almost twang when I was about .5m from home at the end. It was so bad, I swore. Anyway, there was a very very stiff day yesterday, and it throbbed slightly in bed last night. The good news is I can walk today. I have Pilates this morning, so I am hoping for a few good knee clicks and some stretching!

Have a great monday everyone, it looks like it might be sunny again here, I hope you all have good runs and good weather.

Suzannewithaplan · 23/03/2015 08:20

Yes my physio appointment is on Thursday ActionGirl, I shall plan my strategy after I've seen him.
I want to ask him if it is better to run say 6 miles? every day or 12 every other day.
I'm wondering if daily running would score better for improved neuro muscular efficiency so increased running economy and fewer injuries over the long term. ?

Suzannewithaplan · 23/03/2015 08:29

Sometimes knee's do weird and alarming 'twangy' things but ime they often don't come to anything, then again I've been lucky on the knee front . Some strength training things have made them complain but I'm always carefully to avoid them.
I hope yours respond well to the pilates Action! ?

Lilliput · 23/03/2015 08:51

Just got back into running and have joined a Jog Scotland group. I have really pushed myself and ended up with 'runners knee'.
Any advice other than rest?
I don't really want to knock back the distance.

Lilliput · 23/03/2015 08:51

Oh and blister advice too please Smile

Suzannewithaplan · 23/03/2015 09:26

?hi Lilli :)
Usual advice is to increase distance very gradually in order to avoid injuries.
What is your running history and what's your current weekly mileage?

Lilliput · 23/03/2015 09:50

About 2/3 years ago I was 5/10k fit but starting work and a little heart scare meant I stopped running.
In January I got back into couch to 5k and got to a point of running for 20 mins with no walking.
I have joined a running/jogging group a couple of weeks ago for motivation and company. I felt as though the intermediate group wasn't pushing me enough as ran only 2.5k in the first week with them. So joined the slightly more experienced runners the following week and ran 6k (43 mins)that week which felt great. I did a couple of 3k runs (approx 25mins) during the week then a whopping 8k (57 mins) with the group. This long run gave me a blister but felt as though this was an amazing achievement. Had a rest day then on Saturday did 5k (35 mins) and my knee is a bit sore. Classic runners knee pain behind the knee cap.
Sorry a bit rambling.

HalleLouja · 23/03/2015 10:06

Action I think two HMs in 3 weeks was too much for my body. Especially as the first one was a really tough one and I got a good time for a hilly course. Am definitely spacing them out going forwards.

ImBrian · 23/03/2015 10:20

Hi, just dropping in to say hello. I've only been running 8 weeks but I've fallen in love with it even though I've hated it every other time I've tried it! I'm slowly building up the distance and I've got my first 10k at the beginning of May. So far I've done 4 1/2 miles max but the club I run with reckon I'll be fine so fingers crossed.

Does anyone run with their children? I have 5 and the middle 3 are really keen to come out. They're 3,7 and 8 so any tips on how to start?

phlebasconsidered · 23/03/2015 11:11

Just ran 3 miles, so the total is now
1287.1+3 = 1290.1

It was hard work today after my long run the other day, but got my fastest mile at 10.12.

Bloody well done all of you HM runners! I am in total awe.

I've just got myself a calorie app, I really would like to shift a couple of pounds before my 10K.

cinnamongreyhound · 23/03/2015 11:15

What surfaces do you run on Lilliput? I so far haven't had knee probelms touch wood but I do most of my running off road in the forest so less impact on the joints. I rarely suffer with blisters but my longer distance running buddies wear proper running socks or the double layer ones and all use compeed if they do get blisters.