2015 Running thread part three

[actiongirl1978]

Woo! How exciting to be the last on one thread and the first on another!

Good on you for getting out 5madthings. I'm truly sorry for your loss this week, must be difficult. Hope the running helps and helps to escape too x

No recommendations for your hip I'm afraid! Maybe just one of those pants runs?

Well done on smashing your PB Sazor and on a good HM Ohoneohtwo. It isn't easy when the weather isn't on your side (particularly the wind...).
5mad I'm so sorry you have had an awful week, but I'm sure the pain you had today was because you hadn't been out for a couple of weeks. Just take it easy.
Suzanne you are already running 30 - 40 miles a week which is quite a lot for someone who just runs for fun! If you add run another you will perhaps be more injury prone too. I wouldn't give up your gym work or cycling - it is good to have all round fitness and use muscles other than just your legs. I need to start doing some gym work. One of the club coaches was watching the HM and told me that my arms are terrible. I thought I was making more of an effort but the last few kms of the race they were doing nothing which meant my legs had to work harder. I'm going to get an elastic thingy and do some arm stretching exercises. Upper body strength is often forgotten but very important for running.

Checking in and marking place on new thread- need to read through...

A cheeky evening 5k plus a tiny bit extra to take us to 63.2

Well done to all who ran races this weekend

I'm a bit tired and achy this evening but enjoyed the Eastbourne HM. Lovely sunny windy day but not that cold, so good conditions. Took me 2.23 the same as last year. The people watching were great which helped enormously.

yep I am a fun runner
then again, more running = more fun:o

it gets tricky to timetable it all when you add in the gym work...wondering if running after a heavy leg day is a good or a bad thing, etc etc.

I recon I've had much less 'doms' since I started all this running and am starting to wonder if all the stuff about the incompatibility of strength and endurance work isnt just more bro science

What a dumbass I forgot to add my miles!
I did 3.3 miles through the woods - managed to run a path that just...fizzled out... And had to clamber through a load of ankle height bramble (ouch!) to find my way back.

It's really not that big a wood

65.5

starting to wonder if all the stuff about the incompatibility of strength and endurance work isnt just more bro science

I think it's true that neither helps you to reach your potential in the other, but whether that really matters depends on what else you've already optimised in terms of diet and training and what you're trying to achieve. If you're my friend, who won a 3 race series by 1 minute (so 1 minute over 12 hrs of running made the difference betwen 1st and 2nd), then you probably don't want to take up Crossfit. If you're me, and the difference between dragging vanity biceps round a 50k course is the difference betwen being 11th and (say) 7th, then it's not really worth dropping the strength training for the sake of being a slightly better "also-ran".

I also think that for most people, in terms of how much it enhances performance, quitting weights probably falls below several other factors in terms of impact like stop boozing, stop eating crap, get enough sleep, and stay hydrated (possibly that's just me....).... oh yeah, stop falling over might help too- 3 wipe outs yesterday and one was on tarmac (the shame).

So I think this advice is all true, but at the margins. What we really need is an "advice pyramid" with the lowest hanging fruit at the bottom (put on trainers, go outside) and the most marginal extreme stuff at the top (move to Nepalese village at minimum of 6000 ft).

Re veterans category, what you tend to find on trail is that some veterans are very good (the women's winner is nearly always a 40+ here) BUT if you look at the overall field, the non-veterans do much better. Possibly then it's a case of the naturally gifted peaking late, but for the average runner, youth is still an advantage. How the prizes work is that the women in the 40+ category qualify for the open automatically, so if the overall woman winner is 40+ then she wins the open and also gets the veteran's prize.Anyway, I'm a veteran soon, so I'm all for it- it's my chance to win a real plastic gold cup.

I like the fact that you are segregated by age too as it gives more chance of podiums. In cross country it doesn't happen so it is difficult to win as a veteran when you are in competition with girls in their early twenties. I've had quite a few podiums in the veteran category and I most (especially road races) I wouldn't have if I was competing in the same category as seniors.
The best older runners are without exception those who have been running since a young age. I don't know anyone (female) who took up running at a relatively late age (40+) who has times of 40 minutes for a 10k or 1H30 for a HM, but in my HM I was beaten by two V3 ladies who have been running for most of their lives and have incredible endurance.
The best runners in my club have upper body strength. They are not super muscled but some core body strength work is very important. Not least because you don't want skinny arms and muscly legs, it is out of proportion (like me at the moment).

Well done on your hm orangeflutie. Good support does help doesn't it? Now you can put your feet up!

Very interesting points Aggressive. I've no intention of actually quitting weights, (for me that would be like giving up cleaning my teeth regularly)
I used to be much heavier and stronger and I sorta miss it :(
My strength has dipped since I started using running as my main cardio exercise. ?
Maybe I could eat my way back to being a beast, but still run 40 or so miles a week?

78.6 including my HM yesterday. It was my first HM and very hilly. I may have quite enjoyed it........ However, my hips are really sore today. Everything else is pretty ok though.

I think it helped that I ran with a friend who runs the same pace as me. We even finished holding hands. Having the company makes a big difference for me for anything over 10k.

Congratulations on your HM Orangeflutie! I hope you are aching a little less today.

Well done Halle. It does make a big difference running with a friend doesn't it?
So, Luton half this autumn then? :o

I might be up for it feet.... Though have signed up for St. Neots. How about Welwyn on 22nd March. You know you want to . Plus there is a 400m race for kids before the HM round the track at Gosling and the kids get a medal (I think) plus its free.

I do want to I think but I'm limited to one race a month at the moment (as parkrun is about to take over my our life :o) and am doing MK 10k this w/e. I do seem to have sneaked 2 in for April though not counting any parkruns :)

I'm doing St Neots too (and GNR in September) - having done one half a year for last 3 years I now have 3 in 9 weeks. Possibly mad, possibly not

Well done one the half orange

I dont think i added my 4 miles from yesterday so 82.6 Now i think.

My hips dont feel rit today, they dont hurt as such but are not right if thta makes sense? I have googled and found some hip stretches which felt good so shall make sure i do those and will take it easy when i go out this afternoon. Its hailing here at the moment so going to wait til after lunch to run.

Rit? Right obviously!

Feet I like to see it as committed. Was told I shouldn't do Berko if I hadn't signed up for it already (by a dedicated runner). I still did it. Committed not mad....

I managed my last mile as the fastest I had run on Strava. It as all downhill but still it was mile 13.

Ah St Neots was my first half HalleLouja! Enjoyable with a bit repeated, when everyone tells you it's downhill from mile 8 don't believe them! It's not but isn't hideous at all

12.3 from me
=94.9

very windy!

4.3 from me. Omg how windy, i swear it felt like if i stopped running i wpuld have been blown backwards. My hip was fine for the first 4-5km and then niggled, more my right hip. Odd and annoying, but i was running without music, i think i wouldnt have noticed it so much if i had music on. But it wss nice to run, i just felt liks going so put my kit on and went with no real thoughts other than just running, i didnt have to motivate myself to go and i had no goal so didnt worry about pace etc. It was good to just be running.

Though you know they say you shouldnt run with headphones as you are less aware... clearly the opposite is true for me. When i run wiwith headphones i am exrra careful at roads, take them out, slow down... today i clearly was not quite with it and nearly got myself run over! Luckily it was on a quiet housing estate so car not going fast but it woke me up a bit!

I have had a really good stretch so fingers crossed hips will be fine.

So 99.2

5madthings your body starts producing more Relaxin from the moment you become pregnant, this in combination with the fact the body has "stretched" 5 times before likely means your joints will have been affected quite quickly. Best to keep up with some stability exercises (Pilates type thing) while the body resets itself so you don't cause any damage. Good on you for getting out again .

Well done all the HM runners. emummy which one did you sign up for in the end?

8 miles today = 107.2

Well done on your HMs orange and Halle , glad you enjoyed them .

Glad you had a good run too 5madthings ( apart from nearly getting knocked down, that is ) . Hope the hip niggles settle.

I find running really settles me down inside, there must be something about the rhythm that makes me feel all relaxed and peaceful ( at least, till I stop).
No run for me today, DS2 off school. So I am not relaxed and peaceful today!