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2015 Running Thread Part Two

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Tiredemma · 17/01/2015 19:24

.... apologies for lack of original title

4 miles tonight

1378.35

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Suzannewithaplan · 04/02/2015 17:39

then again We know from recent detailed studies involving millions of runners that the risk of sudden cardiac arrest at long-distance running events is almost 3 times higher for marathon runners than for half marathon runners

so I guess it's a pretty safe bet that Alberts chances of a heart attack were increased by his ultra race participation....is he running just as much or has he scaled back his habit?

5madthings · 04/02/2015 17:49

Hopefully no to madthing6! Though I won't rule it out for next year!

ThursdayLast · 04/02/2015 18:06

My issue was more with the fatalistic journalism than the actual science behind the study Grin

I'm afraid I find most things about running rather boring so articles and blogs and endless research about God knows what passes me by.

7.5 miles from me and the dog today, total 269.5

actiongirl1978 · 04/02/2015 18:12

Sazor, I think that shoulder bridges are supposed to strengthen calfs and shins. Also, do you have a foam roller and do you know how to roll your calfs? If not, get one (cheap on amazon) and google calf rolling (self myo-fascial massage). I didn't know my calfs were knotting up so much until I pulled one in a race last week, now I roll religiously as well as the ITB. Don't roll directly on the pain, roll around it first and hold any trigger points until they ease (keep breathing throughout, it helps relax the muscles).

Apologies if I am teaching my grandmother to suck eggs Grin

Anglaise, good luck with your physio tonight.

5madthings - loving your work Wink who amongst us would turn down a day in bed with OH even if (or especially if) no shenanigans were on the cards?! I am sure preschool won't care in the slightest. And if they did, one day they will suffer from child based sleep deprivation and remember you!

I am just wondering whether to go out and run some intervals with some running buddies tonight. They are not meeting till 8.30pm which means by the time I get home and have dinner red wine it will be nearly 10pm. Will I benefit from a second session in a day? pretends it is all to do with muscle fatigue, not the fact that it is really cold outside and I want to drink wine again

Sazorchard31 · 04/02/2015 18:18

Thanks I shall Google shoulder bridges too, I've no idea about these things! Dh bought a foam roller which I'm supposed to use for its just keep forgetting!

Sazorchard31 · 04/02/2015 18:19

How does pulling a calf differ to the pain of shin splints? My diagnosis is mine so maybe wrong!

actiongirl1978 · 04/02/2015 18:36

Well, my muscle was pulled at the side of my calf not in the middle, however you can get referred pain with muscles. So you could have a sore muscle which you feel in a different place.

I would try this later. Lie on the floor, put the ankle of your sore leg on the roller and then cross your other leg over the top (it adds pressure).

The gently roll your leg left and right. If you feel any soreness, pause for 30 secs or so and then manipulate your ankle in circles which will help the knot ease as well. Then, in a sort of Z shape, move your leg down, so the roller moves up your calf. Then repeat. You might need to turn your leg quite a long way each time. You may not find any pressure points, and if not, the shoulder bridges should help.

There are loads of youtube vids showing you foam rolling. My PT taught me that a lot of them are rubbish, you always need to hold on a knot - just rolling back and forth aimlessly wont really help. It might be a bit ouchy, but don't forget to breathe to help the muscle relax. When you do get a spot that is sore and then you feel it start to ease, you will understand what you are looking for and can use it on your glutes and quads (without a doubt the most rewarding sensation in the world!)

Anglaise1 · 04/02/2015 19:06

Albert has scaled back his running a little, but I think the fact that he is still running has shocked a lot of people, especially as he has a young daughter (only 8). But it shows how addictive running can be!
Back from the physio and the good news that is isn't the meniscus this time (although that still hurts a bit) it is a tendonite (not sure what that is in English, tendonitis??) which is why I had some pain above and below the knee too this time. He did something with a hammer drill type thing that was really painful, but it has really helped ease the pain. I've got to stop running for a week which isn't too bad and shouldn't impact too badly on the marathon training. Phew! So no more mileage from me until next Tuesday (although I will still be walking the dogs 5 miles a day, but that doesn't count Wink)

Mitchy1nge · 04/02/2015 19:14

have never had shin splints, becoming a depressed expert on calf strains though (is that the same as a pull?) when I strained my soleus (in case you don't know, the deeper smaller one below the bulging out one) it was a very dull and gradual pain that built up until it was there round the clock - it wasn't even that painful really but enough to wake me regularly in the night just by being there so continuously, it had been easy to ignore and run with

whereas now, in my other leg, there was a sudden (not that it hadn't given me lots of advance warning) and very sharp pain in the gastroc (the bulgy bit), you can still see the swelling, it's a much more acute thing but because of that I'm kind of hoping it will go away as quickly - the soleus strain took a long time to really heal fully

they're both the same sort of injury and amount to the same thing - it feels very unjust because I've been so careful but all is not lost, am hopeful of a successful trial run tomorrow or Friday ahead of Sunday's race

Mitchy1nge · 04/02/2015 19:15

a hammer drill Shock what?

Suzannewithaplan · 04/02/2015 19:41

was the hammer drill something to do with ultra sound?

when I had a calf problem it was the soleus and it also took months and month before I could run on it

EdithDickie · 04/02/2015 19:49

Good luck to all with injuries - hope that you get on ok with your trial Mitchy

7 miles for me today. The most memorable of which was mile 4 or "that awkward moment when you make eye contact with a cyclist on a cycle path that you didn't know was there while you are in the middle of what should have been a very discreet wee behind some bushes". Soooo cringy Shock

EdithDickie · 04/02/2015 19:50

276.5

And it's only the 4th Grin

Knackerelli · 04/02/2015 19:57

Having rested faithfully for 3 weeks ( oh ok I sneaked in two slow parkrun's!) I can add 4.4 from club run last night. It felt so good to be back! Apologies to everyone that's injured, it's really frustrating not being able to exercise.

*280.9?

actiongirl1978 · 04/02/2015 20:04

Edith Grin. Yep, been there!

Anglaise that's great news for you, a week might actually be quite nice, not long enough to lose form, long enough that you'll feel like a coiled spring when you start again.

Mitchy, so sorry you are still suffering. It's it interesting that runners talk about how they can get around pain or deal with the pain or run through the pain, whereas joe blogs at home on the sofa might deal with it in a very different way such as putting their feet up on the sofa. I know if my mum had a strained muscle she would just stop exercising till it felt better. We just can't bear not running can we?

Anglaise1 · 04/02/2015 20:09

Yes, that's it, a hammer drill that emits ultra sound. I'm crap at English now, especially for All Things Running Related.
Anyway, it feels much better and I'm not limping anymore Grin
Good luck with your trial run Mitchy but don't overdo it - you should be tapering before your HM, and merde for the HM itself.
Well done to everyone else on your running for this month, incredible total already!

Anglaise1 · 04/02/2015 20:53

Thanks Action I think I was suffering from over training (plan said 4 outings, I was doing 5 or 6). So you're probably right, a week of rest will do a lot of good hopefully without loss of form (I think you need to have over 2 weeks rest to lose muscle tone).

LaughingM · 04/02/2015 21:08

Action, Mitchy and Sazor, wishing you speedy recoveries from injuries and not too much angst while you are on minimal mileage!

mad that's hilarious! Good work to you and DH. I work in education and if someone was as honest as you were about sleeping through pick-up time I'd probably forgive them immediately for being fab enough to tell me!

Quick(ish) 3.6 miles this evening whilst my shepherd's pie bubbled away in the oven, including a few hill sprints and at one point running down the hill pretending to fly like a 5 year old Grin

284.5

LaughingM · 04/02/2015 21:10

Oops think I meant Anglaise not action r.e. injuries!

cinnamongreyhound · 04/02/2015 21:44

I assumed shin splints would be in your shins rather than a calf strain which would be in your calf? Or am I being naive?

Mitchy1nge · 04/02/2015 22:02

thanks laughing

it must be the season for shin splints, my Thursday running friend seems to have them for first time - although seems unlikely as they strike newbies or people dramatically increasing mileage and neither applies

sounds horribly painful, maybe even a stress fracture, poor thing

5madthings · 04/02/2015 22:23

laughing I txt to apologised they said it was fine, they were lovely about it thankGod!

I get really paranoid reading about all these injuries and.shin splints, I have been so lucky with my.running not so much as a.blister. Fo.gers crossed that luck sticks. Esp.with the half marathon in April.

Trying to work out when I will run tomorrow, would like to do it in the mornkgn but it's so icy in the mornings at the moment and I don't want to fall and I.jure myself. Will have to see what it's like when I get up.

originalpiratematerial · 04/02/2015 23:24

2.49 treadmill miles from me.

286.99

Big sympathies and healing vibes to anyone struggling with an injury Flowers

I am hoping to run to work tomorrow (London, bus strike, argh) but am worried it's going to be icy. I am like an OAP when it's icy [wibble].

AggressiveBunting · 05/02/2015 02:49

5mad You may just have very good biomechanics which mean you dont tend to get injured

SazorSazor If it's Shin splints the pain will be on the front of the lower leg (on the shin bone) and is worst on impact. I had really bad SS when training for marathon de sables (many moons ago). In the end I just trained through them and they went away. Probably not the best idea but I had to start getting my mileage up or not do the race, so it was kill or cure

Anglaise Not sure if "Albert" is a pseudonym but I also know a guy who got majorly into MdeS as a reformed alcoholic. Wonder if it's the same guy- Union jack top hat? If not, then there are two of them.

4 treadmill miles from me today makes 291

Sazorchard31 · 05/02/2015 06:25

Thanks guys.
Well after my all out panicyesterday today I woke to find a lot less pain and I'm now questioning what it is, still something from running in too worn trainers but maybe not as bad? I panicked after the running shop lady said it was ss, but she's not an expert lovely as she is. IWill hold off on the running for a week and see how I get on in new trainers. Or can I run in heels? Didn't hurt when in heels for work ha!