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Runners thread number 6

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Sirzy · 24/06/2014 19:18

For all running chat!

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Blatherskite · 01/07/2014 10:07

I've got a 10k to do tonight so I should have something to add later.

When I first started running, a friend of DH's convinced me first, to start parkrun and then, to join my first running club. He'd been running for a while and was enjoying it and I think following his suggestions really helped me get into running and begin really enjoying it. Last night, he asked me to pace him to a new 10k PB. I'm really quite proud of myself Grin DH just doesn't get it Sad

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 01/07/2014 13:06

Just shy of 5k this morning. Not sure I'm going to get on with ths adding time business as I often struggle with adding up seconds, minutes and hours because it's 60 not a nice round 10, if you see what I mean, so apologies in advance if I add up incorrectly.

So adding my 31:16 onto Cinnamon's 45 mins equals....erm...1:16:16.

SoftKittyWarmKitty · 01/07/2014 13:12

Or if we're doing it just in minutes, it's 76.16 (I used a calculator for that Grin)

Hopefully · 01/07/2014 14:00

Blathers I think my DH is a bit bewildered by the running too! Although he is inching his way through c25k, he's only doing it to lose weight, he doesn't particularly enjoy it. I wish he would find a sport he loves. He used to sail loads, but it's too time consuming and expensive now we have small DCs.

Most random soreness from last night's run - the tops of my feet ache! I think it's the muscles going up the front of my foot into my ankle. Also have a small blister from sweaty feet - really need some non cottony sports socks.

cinnamongreyhound · 01/07/2014 14:11

That's great blatherskite, you should be proud and (insert tongue poking out emoticon) to your dh!

Blatherskite · 01/07/2014 14:31

DH runs though Hopefully - and admits that he only started so that he could be faster than me! The running friend is one of his childhood mates - and a 6 foot male too. The fact that little 5'1" me can pace him to anything is impressive enough but the fact that he helped get me into running makes it a bit more special I think.

I bet he takes notice if when I beat his PB! I've only got about 2 and a half minutes to lose evil Grin

CardiffUniversityNetballTeam · 01/07/2014 17:05

Hello everyone. Welcome to all the newbies and well done to all the PBs.

I would like to add 28:41 to the time total so we are at 1:44:57 so far.

My local parkrun has relocated to a new home, much nearer my house and easy to get to by bus or even on my bike! So I'm going to go, either this week, or if not, definitely next week. Excited!

I know what you are all saying about unsupportive/uber competitive/pain in the arse DHs. My DP insists on going on, all the time, about how he did the great north run in under 2.5 hours and he stopped for a Burger King half way round! Confused

originalpiratematerial · 01/07/2014 20:56

I will be doing a nice long (certainly in the temporal sense - or do I mean chronological sense Confused) tomorrow morning as I am running to work but experimenting with a new route. Also the latter part of the route gets incredibly clogged up with grumpy bike commuters (it's along the Regent's Canal) so that will slow me down.

MazzR · 01/07/2014 21:01

Yay! Finally got bk out this evening. 5.24k in 30.32. Does that make it 2:15:59?? I'm not good with the adding times either!

originalpiratematerial · 01/07/2014 21:03

I am going to be rounding all my runs to 30 mins, 45 mins or 60 mins (or 90 mins, phew). As I am crap at maths!

CardiffUniversityNetballTeam · 01/07/2014 21:24

Adding times is hard!!

What is the target going to be? Can we run, cumulatively, for a week??

thefemaleJoshLyman · 01/07/2014 22:16

The time thing is going to be a challenge! I was thinking about it on my run this morning - could we run for a month between us? 744 hours? That might be a little ambitious?

Anyway I ran for 52minutes today which bring us to 3:07:59 or 187minutes.

Ran a whole 10k and managed to speed up at the end, which I was pleased about. It did feel quite good - or better than my other longer runs. It was actually quite chilly when I left the house but getting much warmer when I returned.

5madthings · 01/07/2014 22:37

I did 3.8km this eve but some of that was sprints up and down a hill, my friends idea as she says it's good for improving stamina and speed, personally I think she is just a sadistic bastard Grin

Not sure of time will go look at mapmyrun app.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree · 01/07/2014 22:46

3:38:15 with my half hour this evening.

5madthings · 01/07/2014 22:55

I was out for 34mins this eve on my run.

Hopefully · 01/07/2014 23:13

That would be cool if we could run for a month! Nothing to add from me today, just went for a walk to get pesky dd to sleep stretch my legs on my rest day.

5madthings hill sprints sound v virtuous and good for speed stamina. And possibly your friend hates you Grin

josh well done on your 10k, sounds like you managed your energy really well. I still fall into the trap of starting to fast and dying at the end on virtually every run ATM.

MazzR · 02/07/2014 06:56

6.30km in 40:17. 4:18:32??

SeymoreButts · 02/07/2014 08:14

7km from me last night in 36.33 mins so that makes the total 328.65 minutes or 5:28:65 hours including 5madthings run of 34 minutes.

I've noticed that around 5km I feel crap and like I won't get much further, then a km later I seem to hit my stride and perk right up. Does everyone get this? Once I hit that point I can't stop or I would being able to get going again!

SeymoreButts · 02/07/2014 08:18

Sorry! 5:29:05 hours or 328.65 mins if we are doing the minutes tally as decimal. Maybe we should round to the nearest minute?

Blatherskite · 02/07/2014 09:27

Dh's friend didn't end up running last night so, while I had said that I would take it easy - and to be fair, I didn't feel like I was pushing hard - I had no-one to slow me down....

Which means I can only add 52:28 to the time total as I PBd again! Grin 4th time in 4 weeks Shock

Thankfully, it didn't and doesn't hurt as I've still got that half marathon to run on Sunday.

380.93 minutes. 6:21:33 hours ?? I think

OhOneOhTwoOhThree · 02/07/2014 10:11

Blathers you are a running MACHINE! Well done, fantastic work. I hope Sunday goes well for you.

Seymore - I struggle for the first 10-15 minutes of a run, which I have read is to do with your body recalibrating the amount of energy/oxygen needed (so you puff and pant because you need more oxygen). I am not explaining very well and will look for the link later Grin.

Well done 5mad on your hills Smile

Off to the dentist this morning and optician this afternoon, hope to fit in a short run sometime with DS1 who is supposed to be training for a HM in September (his first).

OhOneOhTwoOhThree · 02/07/2014 10:21

This isn't the article I was looking for, but it is it in a nutshell (taken from a RW forum)

"It's perfectly normal.

The best description of what happens I've ever read is by Dr Mike Stroud (medic, polar explorer - with Ran Fiennes - and all round very knowledgable bloke) in his book Survival of the Fittest - Understanding Health and Peak Physical Performance.

I quote - "When you start to run your muscles need extra oxygen but your body is not set up to increase the supply immediately. For the first few minutes of a race [or any run] you develop oxygen debt as you use more energy than aerobic systems can supply. It is only when oxygen in the blood has been depleated significantly and levels of carbon dioxide have risen that your brain senses these changes and sends instructions to set things straight. At that point you will begin to breathe harder and your heart will pump more strongly. But by then , besides having to meet the demands of your continued movement, you also have to repay the oxygen debt and clear the lactic acid that has accumulated. This takes time, and so the first couple of miles of any run can be rough."

Hope that helps."

SeymoreButts · 02/07/2014 10:34

That's really helpful, thanks ohone i think that explains why I really struggled with running in the early days. Now I'm running further I definitely enjoy it more!

Blatherskite · 02/07/2014 10:47

I definitely have parts of a run where I feel like I cannot go on but then get over it too Seymore. The first mile/mile and a half I struggle like OhOne describes and then I usually hit another wall at about 9-10 miles. I think at that stage, it's because I have used up all my carb stores and my body is switching fuel stores again. I'm going to have to look it up. I had it explained to me once and it made sense but I can't remember exactly what it was now...

Blatherskite · 02/07/2014 10:54

I was right - ish :)

I found this which explains it - "In endurance sports such as cycling and running, hitting the wall or the bonk describes a condition caused by the depletion of glycogen stores in the liver and muscles, which manifests itself by sudden fatigue and loss of energy. Milder instances can be remedied by brief rest and the ingestion of food or drinks containing carbohydrates. The condition can usually be avoided by ensuring that glycogen levels are high when the exercise begins, maintaining glucose levels during exercise by eating or drinking carbohydrate-rich substances, or by reducing exercise intensity."

"Athletes engaged in exercise over a long period of time produce energy via two mechanisms, both facilitated by oxygen:

via fat metabolism and
via breakdown of glycogen into glucose, followed by glycolysis.
How much energy comes from either source depends on the intensity of the exercise. During intense exercise that approaches one's VO2 max, most of the energy comes from glycogen.

A typical untrained individual on an average diet is able to store about 380 grams of glycogen, or 1500 kcal, in the body, though much of that amount is spread throughout the muscular system and may not be available for any specific type of exercise. Intense cycling or running can easily consume 600-800 or more kcal per hour. Unless glycogen stores are replenished during exercise, glycogen stores in such an individual will be depleted after less than 2 hours of continuous cycling or 15 miles (24 km) of running. Training and carbohydrate loading can raise these reserves as high as 880 g (3600 kcal), correspondingly raising the potential for uninterrupted exercise."

Taking gels or sports beans when I feel that dip definitely helps. Which reminds me, I need to pop to Sweatshop for some more gels and electrolytes today.