Runners thread number 6

[Sirzy]

For all running chat!

I def find I get out if breath at the start of a run another I push through and it sorts iitself out.

My legs are achey today!

Well done on your run blathers great time!

I still can't find the excellent article I read last year, but some of the science is in this one

As I understand it (disclaimer I am not a scientist, but as I have a child with type 1 diabetes I know a bit about carbs, blood sugars and glycogen, and I read widely last year when marathon training)...your muscles need ADP to work. They get the ADP by converting ATP + creatine + oxygen into APD, which is why you need to breathe more heavily when you start to run. This is aerobic exercise.

You get your ATP source from gylcogen, which is stored in muscles and the liver. Most of us can store up to about 2000 calories-worth of glycogen.

After than you start to burn fat. Your body will always use the most easily available energy source. Burning fat is harder, and uses more energy, which is why you feel rubbish when you start to burn fat (and why marathon training involves long runs, so you can get used to burning fat). Gels are supposed to stop you hitting the wall because they are more easily convertible to energy than fat, so in theory you shouldn't reach that stage if you use gels.

So, when does the fat burn start!!! I know after oxygen but I could do with burning a bit more fat!! Interesting articles though, thanks!! Anyone given up cigs lately?

Blathers I'm in awe!

A very, very, very hot 42 minutes/ 6.5 k; didn't really get into my pace properly since I was suffering a bit from tight calves (and the searing heat) - must stretch more. At least I found a lovely new route over the hills, although slightly marred by having midges stuck to my face by the end of it.

7:02:33 then?

Must read some of these articles - they look really interesting.

Just got back from my muscle reactivation session and feel more achey than when I went which is a first! I usually feel loser and stronger. Hip problems are caused by my foot this time it seems so we worked on getting that to work properly which should help on Sunday. Need to do some work on my inner thigh muscles though as they were pathetic.

On my way over, I popped into Sweatshop for some gels and some new socks in an attempt to not lose any more toenails this time - I mean, who loses toenails running half marathons?!? - and the ones I chose promise to help stabilise the foot with a special internal bandage so, assuming it's not all just marketing rubbish, hopefully they'll help too.

Now, can everyone just cross stuff that it's not going to be another crazily hot day like it was last year please. I went along to watch and spray water at people last year and even that was miserable. Running 13.1 miles is going to be hell if it's that hot again.

I hear that Saturday's going to be nice and rainy Blathers - everything crossed for you that the weather people have got it right!

Really interesting reading about the whole energy sources thing. Reminds me of my (long long ago) GCSE in PE!

Blathers well done on yet another PB! You are on fire ATM .

I am tossing up between a run and a Shred this evening. I should Shred, as my feet and ankles are still stiff (lots of googling and a conversation with local running shop suggest this is largely down to my muscles adapting to to a far more minimalist running shoe as I don't need the pronation support the old ones offered), but I want to run.

Well done blathers what's your secret please?!

I'm fasting today but went out and ran 5.1k (31 mins) anyway as I hadn't run since Saturday. Will try and squeeze in another one tomorrow.

Juneathon pat It worked last year too. 30 days of doing something, anything, every single day.

I've just got to keep it up now! Had my first day off today and it's been lovely. Don't want to let things slip too far but do want to be rested for the half on Sunday.

Well done on the pb blathers. That is one well-deserved day off after doing something for a month.

Have a very easy 6km to add 7:36:07 I can see this time counting is going to be a real test of my shite maths skills.

Joints and tendon that were giving me jip seem ok after it so fingers crossed the rest helped. Physio Friday and was in one mind to cancel it as I can think of far better things to spend the money on and just hope it doesn't come back. Mother dearest has told me to go to at least one appointment to see what they say What on earth do you wear though (especially since it's my hips round my pelvis area that was hurting)?

Mazz I stopped smoking the same week I started running at the beginning of Feb so not been off them too long. Feel so much better for it and am quite frankly amazed as an ex-20 a dayer I can now run as far as I can.

Well done on your pb blatherskite!! Do you feel more prepared for your half this time around? I'm the same as you 9-10miles is the tough barrier to get through although I don't struggle at the start like I used to.

I haven't run more the 6 miles since my 10mile race back in may. I have a 10k in two weeks and a 9.25 mile of rnr in sept but nothing imminent. Kind of waiting to see how we get on ttc before I dig into serious training again. Kind of happy plodding at the minute :)

And where did you get 744 hours from thefemaleJoshLyman? Really genuinely intrigued, in case that sounded sarcastic at all. I worked out 1500 miles, which was I believe last months target, at 10 min miling would be 15,000 minutes right? So about 250 hours? Or is my maths totally out? Didn't see any other suggestions for totals so thought we'd better come up with one. Happy to round to nearest minute too.

50 mins from me today - 8:26:07

24 (hours) x 31 (days) = 744 cinnamon

Just peeking in at this thread, as I was the one that made 5madthings do the hill runs yesterday and she told me about it
Could I join you here?

I haven't run properly for a couple of years, but am just starting back again slowly.
Am trying to work out the totals thing.... Do we report what we've done and add it to a thread total?
I did 5.4km yesterday.

Hoping to do first Park Run on Saturday. Not done it for a couple of years, and I'm actually ridiculously nervous about it!

Will catch up properly on the thread now....

I can add a 39 minute run from Tuesday evening so that takes us to 9:05:07.

My runs are getting better but I am having problems with my stomach/gas/poo. For the past week or so as I run longer distances it feels at first likely need to fart sorry. But as I go on it feels like I need a poo and it gets to the point where I am desperate and when I get home I am straight on the loo and exploding. I have tried going to the loo before a run and running at different times but the outcome is always the same and it's affecting my runs plus it is putting a stop to motivation.

Has anyone else had experience of this and got any advice?

Thanks and sorry for TMI first thing in the morning

42 mins from me so 9:47:07. Had to slow a little today as I realised I'd left me friend behind a bit I feel on a huge high today, was very awake at 6.15!!!!

I get the same at times Woolypigs, I think it goes to prove exercise does keep you regular!! It only happens to me when I run in the morning though. I find if I walk for a bit the urge goes away and I can get home usually before the urge comes again but I do often burst through the door in the morning and make a dash for the loo. No advice other than walking usually makes it go away for a bit for me sorry!

Welcome Pulses. Come and join us :)

To be honest cinnamon, I'm not feeling very prepared again, no. Obviously, I've done lots of running last month and have run 4 quite fast 10k's but I haven't been over that distance recently. Hoping that if I back off the pace a bit, my new found fitness might help me run longer. I know I can do 13.1 miles, I just know it's not usually comfortable after about 10-11 miles. If it weren't round the corner from my house, I'd be tempted to pull out I think. I still hate halves so it's going to be a real test of my stubbornness on Sunday.

49 mins from me today so that's 10:36:07, I think! Adding time is quite confusing for my wee brain!
Blathers best of luck on Sunday, I think you're speedy 10ks will stand you in good stead, hope the weather is pleasant. Am off on holiday on Saturday, will try to do some running but don't know how it will go; we'll be on a fairly rural campsite so will have to suss out some routes when I get there.

Hello!
Are we doing times now?
I did 5k in a different location last night, a deliberately flattish river side one and I did it in 25.33! I was well chuffed. So I'll add that up...

...11.01.40???

You can have about 30 seconds from me in the parent's race at DD's sports day today :)

10:36:37

Oops, x posted with Thursday Make that 10:37:07

About 28 minutes. I started running into the sun at the end and needed to stop early. So 11:05:07.

I prefer running in the rain

I think the total is now 11:30:20, blatherskite seems to add another 30s to her previous rather than ThursdayLast's iyswim? Change it if I'm wrong though please :)