Brexit MegaThread - part 14

[Peregrina]

Thread 13. We had a debate about whether there should be a new one but if no one answers this the whole series after 8 years plus will come to their end.

Brexit happened, although one time Leavers do not seem to appreciate this.
It's worth noting I think that Brexit was a Tory initiative and the Tory party has just received its worse electoral thrashing since 1832. Could it be entirely unrelated?

What next? A gradual rapprochement with the EU? A Norway style agreement?

There is a lot of coverage in France about Sanofi workers objecting to the USA attempted takeover of Doliprane, widely used paracetamol brand because they can sense factory closures.This among so many other 'small but significant' changes in Europe and the world tells us that by Brexiting, the uK has exposed it's sorry arse to the world and it will receive a thorough kicking as trade and world status (order) leaves the UK behind.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1wnr5qdxe7o

Voting in Moldova’s referendum is crazily close - down to a few thousand votes - between yes & no to enshrining EU membership in the constitution
They’re still counting

The president has denounced an ‘unprecedented attack’ on Moldovan democracy: foreign meddling, to buy votes

The president has denounced an ‘unprecedented attack’ on Moldovan democracy: foreign meddling, to buy votes

Foreign governments have been manipulating voters for over a Century (when fast communication became possible and effective) and it is difficult to know WHO is 'friend or foe'. The USA has it's own ways of being extremely nasty, perhaps a bit more subtlely than Russia or China. Digital propaganda streamed directly into the pockets of almost everyone on earth has changed so much.

Article about people flying in from Russia with up to 7000 Euros (yes Euros) in their luggage
and not querying when customs confiscated £1.5 worth
very surreal.
Glad the Moldovans saw through it.

51:49, Moldova votes to join the EU
Razor-thin majority

52:48, UK votes to leave the EU
Will of the people

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/10/21/nearly-two-third-of-irish-smes-have-reduced-or-stopped-using-british-suppliers-since-brexit/

61% Irish SMEs reduced/stopped using suppliers in Britain

34% Irish SMEs reduced/stopped selling to customers in Britain

Only for 24% Irish SMEs Brexit hasn't impacted the relationship with British suppliers/customers.

@DuncinToffee

51:49, Moldova votes to join the EU
Razor-thin majority

52:48, UK votes to leave the EU
Will of the people

You have forgotten the following facts:

29 March 2017

MPs (AKA UK's law makers) voted 498 ((77%):152 (23%)to trigger article 50

4 July 2024

538 (92%) MPs were elected from Parties who support Brexit.

Ireland has a increasing trade deficit with the UK. Link is:

Trade with the UK Ireland's Trade in Goods 2021 - Central Statistics Office

@IItisymoi

the uK has exposed it's sorry arse to the world and it will receive a thorough kicking as trade and world status (order) leaves the UK behind.

This was supposed to happen in Q3 2018, but did not. More scaremongering and desperate wishful thinking I would say.

@Talkinpeace

It would be more honest to just align with Single Market rules and save UK businesses loads of stress and money

Labour's manifesto clearly stated that the UK will neither join the CU or SM and won 412 seats (double the number of 2019) even though they received fewer actual votes. So, highly unlikely that Labour will support scrapping the FPTP system.

Also, LibDems, who in the past have complained about the FPTP system, received fewer votes in 2024 compared to 2019, but won 72 seats compared to 12 in 2019. So, they too are unlikely to want to scrap the FPTP system.

538 (92%) MPs were elected from Parties who support Brexit.

That's a bit of a stretch! You make it sound as if 92pc of MPs were probably Brexit and elected on that issue, which of course is rubbish 😆

Depends on the AI prompt

So, they too are unlikely to want to scrap the FPTP system.
Reboot yourself. That is drivel

The LibDems worked the system to get the results they wanted. I very much doubt whether they would want to retain FPTP.

The supposed advantage is that it gives strong Government - the previous five years put paid to that notion.

Labour's manifesto clearly stated that the UK will neither join the CU or SM and won 412 seats (double the number of 2019) even though they received fewer actual votes.

Once elected, the Manifestos are as much worth as last week's newspapers.
The 2015 Tory Manifesto had a commitment to the Single Market. “We are clear about what we want from Europe. We say: yes to the Single Market.”

Don't bother coming on to blab about what was promised in the Referendum Globetrotter 2000. What Labour said in its last Manifesto has a much weight as the Tory Manifesto claim had i.e. zero.

This was supposed to happen in Q3 2018, but did not.

Well if the best you can come up with is that the timing was wrong it is clear that you are simple here to write incendiary posts and be a general 'disruptor' and of course you have not presented any ACTUAL Brexit benefits for the greater populace of the UK after 8 years, you know, the PROMISES that Boris , Mogg and others made:

As previously stated, "AI" doesn't know anything. It just reacts as per the weight of numbers in it's training directs it too. The fact this can pass for intelligence for some people is much more a measure of their intelligence than it is of the bot.

We are currently at the dissected frog level with "AI".

I suppose with 'AI' you can always just poll the plug (or batteries) out.
Ctl/ Alt/Del is your friend!

Distributed computing purposely doesn't work that way.

Even a fairly noddy outfit will be immune to a single point of failure.

As things stand we are at the foursquare nexus where "AI" can't detect "AI" or "I" , but generally "I" can spot "AI" and "I". This obviously isn't where the big money behind "AI" would like us to be. And it seems rather than improving the "AI" to be better, the strategy is to depress the "I" until it can't ell the difference.

If you like analogies, it's like getting your competitors to ride sloths so your donkey can win the National.

Lee Anderson and his elk are clearly part of this move.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/britains-last-distant-water-trawler-is-stuck-in-hull-for-the-most-brexit-reason-ever-384547/

I don't suppose the Fuhrage has commented on this...

Testing AIs ability to extract text from images (which to be fair is probably it's #1 use at the moment)

I think that account is the anti globe
its certainly not a real person

Oh, part 46548612354...

Those bears are busy in those woods

Currently at 86% for rejoin.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14002281/Britain-rejoin-EU-former-Brussels-chief-predicts.html

Oh yes please!