Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit.

[Tulipsroses]

It's going to be 4 years since we withdrew our membership in European Union. Apart from the passport colour (some people might prefer) can anyone name one positive change which happened since then.

Food and medicine shortages have both been commonly reported. Stop trying to rewrite history.

And what is your point with that link? You keep posting it, and we keep telling you why. Are you incapable of reading comprehension?

@HannibalHeyes

take a look at

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=which%20eu%20countries%20have%20food%20insecurity&tbm=&shem=rime&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5

Food security seems to be a Worldwide issue. Even the US (world’s richest country) has an estimated 8% of population facing food insecurity. Same applies to the EU.

Ireland (who did not leave the EU and has one of the highest GDP per capita in the EU) have similar problems as the UK.

Also look at

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?q=www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/how-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-has-further-aggravated-the-global-food-crisis/&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiy8MTVwqWDAxUENzQIHUNeD2sQFnoECBUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3WShMz0i2UMoRtJ9b4wnU3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/url?q=www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/how-the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-has-further-aggravated-the-global-food-crisis/&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiy8MTVwqWDAxUENzQIHUNeD2sQFnoECBUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3WShMz0i2UMoRtJ9b4wnU3

As per the EU, Russia invasion of Ukraine, has impacted food worldwide.

However, the supermarkets in the EU are bulging with the fresh produce that ours are, at times, conspicuously absent of.

And it's going to get worse come January, as they finally implement the full checks as required by your precious Brexshit...

Globes next post...

Goodness, thank you for your insight, I hadn't thought of that.

Do the under 18s and over 60s ever use plumbing, if so is the increase in plumbers charges a benefit to them?

So I googled 'are people poorer after brexit'
Article after article about how much poorer we are. Pages of them.
I then googled 'are people richer after Brexit'
A few articles from before the referendum about how we would be richer post brexit. One about how billionaires have got richer. Then, again, loads of articles about us all being poorer.
You should have a look @GGlobeTrotter2000
I'll have a Google about food and medicine supplies in a minute.

@HannibalHeyes However, the supermarkets in the EU are bulging with the fresh produce that ours are, at times, conspicuously absent of.

Take a look at

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=does%20the%20eu%20have%20the%20same%20food%20crisis%20as%20the%20uk&tbm=&shem=rime&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5

Brexit has little to do with short term shortages as quoted by CEO of British growers.

Poor weather in the producers country and rising energy costs is the root cause of shortages.

Some producers may not want to supply to the UK or Northern Europe in the future as there is little return.

Ireland is being impacted too. As the cost of transport across the channel has increased for the producers.

From the BBC website;

But here's a small crumb of comfort - even with these changes, academics at Oxford Economics believe food is 7% cheaper in the UK than on average in the EU

The French people I work alongside in the London say that food costs more in Paris than in London.

@GlobeTrotter2000
So next I googled 'Has brexit affected food and medicine supplies?'
Again loads of results but lots more academic/research/trade type articles rather than news, some from before Brexit. Result, they all say that yes, brexit has had a negitive affect on supplies.

I'm sure if you comb google hard enough you'll be able to find something that says how brilliant Brexit has been for us all and how we're all richer with cheaper food and medicine in full supply @GlobeTrotter2000 though.

Good thing this thread is in a special section. It might end up in "trending" otherwise.

Do threads trend even if most of the content of them is irrelevant?

If I repeatedly post irrelevant tosh, will the thread be more likely to trend.

That's obviously what Globe is hoping for...

I hadn't thought of that. Given that many of that person's links are either broken, lead to some irrelevant website or to a Google search page where all but the first response give the opposite POV from the one they're attempting to give, I'd say it's working out quite well.

Clear sign of an opponent of the government I would say.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/24/what-the-uk-wants-for-christmas-is-to-get-brexit-undone?CMP=share_btn_tw

I'm sick of trying to win over Brexiteers.
It's failed. It's a disaster. Let's rejoin.
Let's get Brexit undone.
We need slogans and spin doctors. And liars. Telling the truth is too boring and too complicated for people to get behind.
So let's just push for more change.
We need a press we have bought and paid for though.

I think perhaps you have failed to read this thread through in its entrity. If you had you would have seen that there are myriad examples of Brexit, the main one on display being whataboutery.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just get a press willing to tell the truth and say it like it is, and then rejoin?

It would be even nicer if we could press a button and go back to pre-referendum. Though it is a good thought to rejoin, the damage is already done now. We wouldn't get the same terms we left with and thousands of financial services jobs have moved away from London. London is no longer the trading centre it was before we left. I don't think rejoining would solve that (much as I'd like it to as my job was in said financial services).

That isn't the whole story though as the current government couldn't run a bath, and I'm not convinced the opposition would do much better.

I was just within sight of retirement, now my pension is in ruins, investments are in ruins, no work about, and the housing market is shit, so I can't even downsize. Still, onwards and upwards, eh?

If Cameron had faced down his Eurosceptics we would never have had Brexit and its consequences. Yes. I know it was in the Tory manifesto but he cd have ignored that. If we hadn't had Brexit we wouldn't have all this immigration nonsense because free movement would have been in place, Poles and others would not have gone home because they felt unwelcome and Rwanda would be off the books with significant costs saved. And we wouldn't have had Truss putting up the cost of living with her mad policies or the Buffoon holding Covid parties in No. 10. What a Tory shambles.

The scales fell from my eyes ages ago on that, Leave voters will NEVER change their minds. Fuck them! Racist dimwits. And before someone comes on whinging, most Leave voters I know are racist dimwits.

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I would like to suggest that one of the advantages of Brexit is we will be able to use Imperial measurements again for everything and not be stuck with all kinds of confusing foreign units.