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Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit.

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Tulipsroses · 05/12/2023 18:54

It's going to be 4 years since we withdrew our membership in European Union. Apart from the passport colour (some people might prefer) can anyone name one positive change which happened since then.

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Zonder · 22/12/2023 14:02

Too right @Daftasabroom - certainly haven't noticed it is significantly easier to buy a house round here since Brexit!

HannibalHeyes · 22/12/2023 14:38

Try getting a mortgage to buy a house now...

Daftasabroom · 22/12/2023 16:07

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/22/the-government-has-just-reminded-us-how-poor-britain-is/

I don't have a subscription so you'll have to make do with the headline.

Alt headline might be: Tory government admits how much it has fucked over the UK!

So our peers are heading in one direction, the UK is heading the other.

The Government has just reminded us how poor Britain really is

Sorry, Home Secretary, but no level of immigration can mask the hard truth that the UK is becoming a developing country

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/22/the-government-has-just-reminded-us-how-poor-britain-is

jgw1 · 22/12/2023 16:46

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 13:45

@jgw1 So a small numebr of people have derived some limited benefits

Maybe the number of posts that describe benefits is small as people don’t post at all due accusations of being;

*uckwits
gullible
racists

@jgw1 they could after all, just have got a different job.

Maybe walking into another job is not as easy as you think? Ask the poster Happiestsleeping for their opinion.

Well undoubtedly some of the leaders of the Leave campaign are racists. In fact it is the reason I didn't vote leave as I couldn't bring myself to be associated with them. Any given Leave voter may or may not be racist, but one does to some extent identify oneself by the company one keeps.

Oddly being accussed of being a american republican communist hasn't stopped me posting.

jgw1 · 22/12/2023 16:47

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 13:45

@jgw1 So a small numebr of people have derived some limited benefits

Maybe the number of posts that describe benefits is small as people don’t post at all due accusations of being;

*uckwits
gullible
racists

@jgw1 they could after all, just have got a different job.

Maybe walking into another job is not as easy as you think? Ask the poster Happiestsleeping for their opinion.

@GlobeTrotter2000 go on then, you post a long list of the benefits of Brexit then. Dare you.

HannibalHeyes · 22/12/2023 17:21

Oh, she'll come on blabbing about "democracy", despite the fact that Brexit and it's subsequent government, have done more to destroy democracy in this country than anything.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 17:26

@jgw1 go on then, you post a long list of the benefits of Brexit then. Dare you.

The OP question was* *

Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit

Several have given benefits they have experienced.

If you are looking for a long list of benefits, maybe start another thread as that is a different question. For guidance on how the question should be worded, I would suggest you read some of the early replies on this thread.

HannibalHeyes · 22/12/2023 18:27

How about you give something that is a benefit to the majority of the country, rather than just a couple of people. Even 52% say...

jgw1 · 22/12/2023 18:53

It appears the nuance in the OPs post is lost on some posters. That there aren't any Brexit benefits and so naming one isn't possible, even 27 pages into the thread none have emerged.

I mean is it a Brexit benefit that the UK is giving less support to Ukraine than many European countries, perhaps it is?

Abhannmor · 22/12/2023 19:38

I've tried to give this serious consideration. One possible benefit might be rediscovering British holiday destinations. For once I'm not being sarcastic. Staycations can be very rewarding.

Other than that there isn't much. Unless you are a lorry driver or plumber. Then you can charge £100 an hour , which is a benefit not to be sniffed at.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:07

@HannibalHeyesHow about you give something that is a benefit to the majority of the country, rather than just a couple of people. Even 52% say..

Not possible for anyone to know what the expectations of the majority of the country might be.^^

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:11

@jgw1 That there aren't any Brexit benefits and so naming one isn't possible, even 27 pages into the thread none have emerged.

There are posters who have described what they consider to be benefits they have experienced. That they do not align with your own personal beliefs/experiences does not mean they have not answered.

HannibalHeyes · 22/12/2023 20:11

Who's asking for expectations? We're asking for benefits. Preferably concrete ones...

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:32

@HannibalHeyes Who's asking for expectations? We're asking for benefits

If people realise their expectations/hoped via Brexit, they have benefited.

jgw1 · 22/12/2023 20:39

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:11

@jgw1 That there aren't any Brexit benefits and so naming one isn't possible, even 27 pages into the thread none have emerged.

There are posters who have described what they consider to be benefits they have experienced. That they do not align with your own personal beliefs/experiences does not mean they have not answered.

One of them was that those who work in Paris can work from home. Another was something about getting stamps in passports, which one could do anyway if one so desired.
I'm sorry I find those utterly unconvincing benefits and certainly not worth the upheaval that leaving the EU caused.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:44

@Abhannmor Staycations can be very rewarding.

True. Maybe that’s why both France and Spain want the restrictions on how long UK citizens can visit their country to be relaxed.

Unless you are a lorry driver or plumber. Then you can charge £100 an hour , which is a benefit not to be sniffed at.

Precisely. There are benefits which can be named which was the OP question

jgw1 · 22/12/2023 20:49

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:44

@Abhannmor Staycations can be very rewarding.

True. Maybe that’s why both France and Spain want the restrictions on how long UK citizens can visit their country to be relaxed.

Unless you are a lorry driver or plumber. Then you can charge £100 an hour , which is a benefit not to be sniffed at.

Precisely. There are benefits which can be named which was the OP question

If there are more people having to pay more for a plumber now, than there are plumbers earning £100 an hour, is the increased amount plumbers are charging a benefit or not overall?

HannibalHeyes · 22/12/2023 20:54

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:32

@HannibalHeyes Who's asking for expectations? We're asking for benefits

If people realise their expectations/hoped via Brexit, they have benefited.

Wow! That's informative!

Brilliant contribution to the debate, as ever...

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 21:04

@jgw1 I I'm sorry I find those utterly unconvincing benefits and certainly not worth the upheaval that leaving the EU caused.

Because you have not read the OP question, but rearranged it to fit your own personal opinion.

Question was to give one benefit of Brexit. Some posters have detailed what they consider to be benefits based on their own experiences.

The question did not include caveats such as;

the benefit must be agreed by other posters

the benefits described must apply to the majority of the UK

HannibalHeyes · 22/12/2023 21:14

Which is what has been pointed out to you ENDLESSLY. Just because a couple of people have found a "benefit" for them personally, do you honestly think it was worth fucking up our economy, and so many people's lives for that?

You are so desperately trying to push the party line that you really are coming across, er, rather worse than I suspect you think you are...

jgw1 · 22/12/2023 21:21

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 21:04

@jgw1 I I'm sorry I find those utterly unconvincing benefits and certainly not worth the upheaval that leaving the EU caused.

Because you have not read the OP question, but rearranged it to fit your own personal opinion.

Question was to give one benefit of Brexit. Some posters have detailed what they consider to be benefits based on their own experiences.

The question did not include caveats such as;

the benefit must be agreed by other posters

the benefits described must apply to the majority of the UK

@GlobeTrotter2000 I think I have identified one benefit of Brexit.

Abhannmor · 23/12/2023 00:05

GlobeTrotter2000 · 22/12/2023 20:44

@Abhannmor Staycations can be very rewarding.

True. Maybe that’s why both France and Spain want the restrictions on how long UK citizens can visit their country to be relaxed.

Unless you are a lorry driver or plumber. Then you can charge £100 an hour , which is a benefit not to be sniffed at.

Precisely. There are benefits which can be named which was the OP question

There are 68 million people in the UK. Of they could all be plumbers and HGV drivers perhaps the folly of Brexit might have been worth it.

jgw1 · 23/12/2023 08:34

Abhannmor · 23/12/2023 00:05

There are 68 million people in the UK. Of they could all be plumbers and HGV drivers perhaps the folly of Brexit might have been worth it.

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Since about 67.5million of them aren't plumbers or lorry drivers, this particular benefit appears to have cost most people.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 23/12/2023 11:13

@HannibalHeyes Just because a couple of people have found a "benefit" for them personally, do you honestly think it was worth fucking up our economy, and so many people's lives for that?

Take a look at:

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=which%20party%20wants%20to%20rejoin%20the%20eu&tbm=&shem=rime&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5

I am from a county that is considered to one of the most deprived in England. However, I see no evidence of poverty or people being worse off. The food and medicine shortages that, as per the project fear campaign, were certain to happen have yet to be seen.

which party wants to rejoin the eu - Google Search

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=which%20party%20wants%20to%20rejoin%20the%20eu&tbm=&shem=rime&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5

GlobeTrotter2000 · 23/12/2023 11:19

@jgw1 Since about 67.5million of them aren't plumbers or lorry drivers, this particular benefit appears to have cost most people

Under 18s and over 60s make up 40% of the UK population. So, it’s not possible for there to be 67.5 million plumbers or lorry drivers.

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