Genuine question - what does anyone like about Brexit?

[Pipsquiggle]

I have always been a committed remainer - I work in an industry that depends on seamless logisitics, particularly entering / leaving the UK. Brexit is a shit show for my sector.

Just had to pay £96.80 to UPS to release a package that I'd paid express delivery for, that should've arrived 2 days ago - I'm pissed off. The German firm has already agreed to reimburse me but it's all such a ball ache.

So I have a very bleak outlook when it comes to Brexit.

Genuinely, I would like to hear of good news stories around Brexit.
How has it made your life better?
If your pay has increased - how much by and which industry are you in?
If there has been a legal upside for you - which law and how has it helped?

I am genuinely hoping to 'reframe' my thoughts / feelings on Brexit and was hoping this board could help me

@GlobeTrotter2000
Not contradictory at all. It's completely possible to acknowledge that you have benefitted from a situation yet it's shit for most other people.

I am glad that Brexit is benefitting you. It would be interesting to know how many people in the UK are able to flip to another currency for their wages, it certainly hasn't been an option from my last 5 employers.

I work in grocery retail and know people in all of the major supermarkets and know how Brexit is negatively affecting this sector - which will be negatively affecting the whole of the population as 100% of us eat food.

Unemployment is down yet Food bank usage is up - how does that work?
Maybe engage critical thinking and stop using numbers as black and white, like someone doing a yr 6 SATs maths paper.

I implore you to try and look bigger picture, triangulate data points to see holistically if Brexit has been a good thing for this country.

Glad it's working for you though

@ChocolatSouris @Crikeyalmighty

Can absolutely understand why this happened, I work in a team that decides this kind of stuff. Brexit has meant that it simply isn't worth it. I have to deal with this stuff every single day.

I too suspect Tufton st plant. Genuinely never met a remainer who is so pissed off with fellow remainers at saying that Brexit isn't working for them.

Thanks Pipsgiggle. It’s an unintentional personal benefit, like I said, I really wish the UK had voted differently.

A strong economy would lead to a strong pound, although I know it's not quite as black and white. Isn't telling us how weak the pound is against the Euro and dollar a sign in itself that Brexit is failing?

wrong thread

I notice your stock answer Globtrotter2000Ukraine, Covid, now tie in Israel Gaza and the Red Sea.

Before the vote, the weakening effect on the UK of leaving the EU was warned about - and dismissed by the jolly old Brexiteers.

So as far as I am concerned they can go and fuck themselves sideways if they try to use "events dear boy, events" as an excuse for why their pipedream hasn't materialised.

Possibly outing, but I created a disaster recovery plan for use in the event of "alien invasion" that was committed to the business plans of a multimillion pound company. The reality was the plan was meant to cover the eventuality where no one could make it to any office - widescale flooding would have been just as valid a reason for the disaster. However it can be fascinating to see who reads what.

Returning to planet Brexit for a moment .... if they Brexiteers couldn't foresee - or more importantly ignored - the possibilities of century events, then why should we have paid any attentions to the other shit they were "predicting" ?

@Peregrina Isn't telling us how weak the pound is against the Euro and dollar a sign in itself that Brexit is failing?

The pound to Euro is the same now as it was from 2009 to 2013 before Brexit was heard of. Link is

Pound to Euro 10 years ago - Search (bing.com)

@ChocolatSouris It’s an unintentional personal benefit, like I said, I really wish the UK had voted differently.

So, did you donate your gain to those who claim to have lost out from Brexit?

@Pipsquiggle Unemployment is down yet Food bank usage is up - how does that work?

Those that work may use food banks too if necessary. Link is:

Greater Change

Headline is:

Food bank support is for anybody who needs short-term food support. This can include those who are homeless, unemployed or employed, but their pay is insufficient to meet their needs.

Food banks are not unique to the UK. Figures for 2022 are that almost 20% of the EU had difficuly affording a proper meal. Germany were in third place.

Link is:

People in the EU unable to afford a proper meal on the rise - Eurostat | Euronews

@GlobeTrotter2000

Answer my previous post or just jog on (back to Tufton St &/or 2016 so you can always be right, forever).

I have had better chats with Leave voters who passionately believe in Brexit than you. Sorry to say that you are just coming across as weird.

We really need a Brexit Bingo excuses card.

Mine is filling up fast!

@SerendipityJane Before the vote, the weakening effect on the UK of leaving the EU was warned about - and dismissed by the jolly old Brexiteers

History has proved the warning did not materialise.

So as far as I am concerned they can go and fuck themselves sideways if they try to use "events dear boy, events" as an excuse for why their pipedream hasn't materialised.

So, you are convinced that COVID, which appeared in 2020 and the outbreak of wars in 2022 and 2023 have not impacted the UK or the rest of the World in any way?

Flooding has happened many times around the World for centuries and will continue to do so. Tsunamis the cause damage occur twice per year. Those that cause damage or deaths at distances of 1,000km occur twice per decade.

Alien invasions have not been proved to my knowledge.

So, did you donate your gain to those who claim to have lost out from Brexit?

Now you mention it, I’ve been thinking of setting up a little charity for those who voted Brexit but are unable to fulfill their dream of living on the Costas del Sol.

After all we often see their tales of woe in the media, “I voted Brexit but can’t live in my Spanish finca….”

Alien invasions have not been proved to my knowledge.

You could have just said you didn't get it. No shame. The Finance director didn't either.

Saw this on X 🤦https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/1754506551706923217?t=8Fdgo8KaHRsZif7TCX6PRg&s=19

@ChocolatSouris “I voted Brexit but can’t live in my Spanish finca….”

They can. It's called a long stay visa which means people do not have to follow 90/180 Schengen guideline. They take about 15 days to process

Both France and Spain applied to have the rule changed. The French courts overuled. Spain have not yet decided.

@DuncinToffee Mine is filling up fast!

What wil you win if you call house first?

Both France and Spain applied to have the rule changed. The French courts overuled. Spain have not yet decided.

And I recollect you telling us that this was going to happen as fact. You now admit it's not been so. Nor does it alter my response then.

How does 180 days compare to unlimited days?

@Peregrina How does 180 days compare to unlimited days?

It's called a long stay Visa. The French energy I represent advise they can be obtained in 15 days.

Unless you are working in, or wish to retire in, the EU, why would someone need unlimited days?

And I recollect you telling us that this was going to happen as fact.

It was passed in Parliament, but higher courts overuled. Point is though, why did France want it be changed if it was not a disadvantage?

It was passed in Parliament, but higher courts overuled. Point is though, why did France want it be changed if it was not a disadvantage?

One point is that you declared it was going to happen, not that it might.

A second point which you fail to understand is that we were told Brexit was going to be a benefit to us - not that EU countries might offer us some accommodations if it was to their advantage and happened also to be the UK's benefit.

Unless you are working in, or wish to retire in, the EU, why would someone need unlimited days?

Plenty of people did wish to work in the EU. Plenty (including Brexiters) hoped to retire there. I have no sympathy for those - they have got what the voted for. I do sympathise with those who have had job opportunities compromised.

@Peregrina

If UK citizens spend more of their time in the UK than in the EU after Brexit, then it would follow the are spending more money in the UK than before Brexit.

I would say that is a benefit to the UK.

Also, if UK citizens own property outside the UK and spend more than 91 days in the UK in a tax year, any rental profits will be subject to UK tax even though the source of the income is from outside the UK

I would say that is a benefit to the UK.

Working in the EU post Brexit is not as difficult as remain supporters want to think. I worked in the The Netherlands from the beginning 2021 to middle of 2023. Fly in and fly out, work from home, public and annual leave entitlement meant I never exceeded 90 days per 180 cycle.

UK benefited too, as although I was working outside the UK, I had to pay tax in the UK.

The French enery company I represent can obtain a long stay Visa within 15 days for upcoming move to Paris.

People can retire anywhere as long as they can support themselves without claim against public funds from the host country. I hope to retire to Bulgaria as I have worked there several times and have long term partner who is a Bulgarian national. Bulgaria government requirements for non-citizens are simple:

Prove you have a place to live; and

An income which is equal to the Bulgarian minimum wage which is currently £340 per month.

UK state pension is currently £958 per month.

UK state pension is currently £958 per month.

Once again I have to wonder how much you really know. You ought to know that State pensions are paid 4 weekly.

@Peregrina

£958 is the calendar month equivalent of £221.20 per week.

Thank you for doing the arithmetic, it's so so helpful to this doddery old pensioner who is in receipt of the said pension.

How about posting something useful for once?

@GlobeTrotter2000 working in EU is not as difficult? Well maybe not for you as you clearly have a WFH type job, can retain a UK place to live and pay for living 'over there' when you are there. It's most certainly not easy if you are a 30 year old who needs a job actually based there that isn't portable or are 24 and want a year fill in job or bar work etc- or have a family that you need to move , you don't have a job you can just WFH and carry round the world with you and can't afford to retain a uk place to nip back to with all your worldly goods every 3 months etc. you are basing this purely on your own situation.

We lived in Denmark for 20 months- we were lucky as do have that kind of business but this was pre Brexit- we couldn't do it now as couldn't afford a house to keep flirting back to in 2 places and needed to be resident for healthcare and various other things. You can't rent anything long term without residency etc