Brexit mega thread : part 9 : Winter is Coming

[Chevyimpala67]

Part 10 of our long running thread.

Not sure what to say, really, other than it is worse than I feared.

Strap in, folks. It's gonna be a rough ride...

If the Leavers on MN are to be believed, the answer would have been exactly the same, because Sovereignty and Xenophobia

From the last century

Have you got a source @SerendipityJane ? I’d like to see it more clearly.

And in the more winning category…

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/26/brexit-britain-japan-trade-deal-exports-slump

Along with the Australia trade agreement being criticised earlier this month by the former environment secretary George Eustice, who said it was “not actually a very good deal for the UK”.

– Tensions between China and the US escalate into a new Cold War — bordering on a hot one.
– New technologies turn out to be a bust. They simply don't bring the expected productivity increases or the big economic boosts,
– Russia devolves into a kleptocracy run by a mafia or retreats into quasi-communist nationalism that threatens Europe.
– Europe's integration process grinds to a halt. Eastern and Western Europe can't finesse a reunification, and even the European Unification process breaks down.
– Major ecological crisis causes a global climate change that, among other things, disrupts the food supply - causing big price increases everywhere and sporadic famines.
– Major rise in crime and terrorism forces the world to pull back in fear. People who constantly feel they could be blown up or ripped off are not in the mood to reach out and open up.
– The cumulative escalation in pollution causes a dramatic increase in cancer, which overwhelms the ill-prepared health system.
– Energy prices go through the roof. Convulsions in the Middle East disrupt the oil supply, and alternative energy sources fail to materialize.
– An uncontrollable plague - a modern-day influenza epidemic or its equivalent takes off like wildfire, killing upward of 200 million people.
– A social and cultural backlash stops progress dead in its tracks, human beings need to choose to move forward. They just may not...

– A social and cultural backlash stops progress dead in its tracks, human beings need to choose to move forward. They just may not

Guess we all need to see how that one pans our. But the rest of your predictions are not unreasonable.

Have you got a source @SerendipityJane ? I’d like to see it more clearly.

"Wired" magazine July 1997

I am placing my bets on climate change. Even if we manage to stay at 1.5 degrees (currently on track for 1.7 IF all pledges are met), we still have to deal with the disruption we have caused already. Pakistan floods, sub-saharan drought, USA hurricanes, Chinese hydro electric failures, ME heatwaves - that's just from this year.

Because our systems are so fragile and intertwined, all it will take is a large enough catastrophe to one of the big population centres and you are looking at a domino effect. In one respect, the Russian -Ukrainian war has been a useful diplomatic stress test for the grain deal and (not having) a nuclear war. I just wish we could have done it without so much horror and suffering.

Uk to become the next silicon Valley..... is Hunt fucking mad??? that ship has sailed.... we are out of Horizon and out of any major technological hub.

We can't even give people any sort of healthcare... fuckwit

Climate change is the biggest threat we face. It's something that is hard to change - we haven't done a great job so far, and it's always at the back of my mind. The frustrating thing is that we could make the changes, but politicians are short sighted and it's a hard sell. Changing lifestyles is difficult and there are so many vested interests like fossil fuel companies pressuring in the background.

@Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton How is the food bank going?

Busy

Donations fallen off a cliff - understandably

I'm worried

I think comparing the tech mirage/ future fakery to the Big Bang is a spectacularly tone deaf exercise. It seems the government learned nothing from the effects of the Big Bang. This is perhaps because the crash of 2008 didn't personally affect them.

Apparently 4000 fewer EU doctors now work in the NHS then otherwise would have.... i think this also applies to Dentists too... not too mention the numbers of carers and nurses that have chosen not to work in the UK.

..and why would they?

Visa and health insurance costs add up & they can work anywhere in the EU without these costs...

The whole thing is a mirage.

A chimera.

Brexshit can never succeed because no one knows what it is actually is. Brexshit has been used as a tool by disparate groups to achieve their own ends which do not and will not benefit the UK people.

What a mess.

Possibly the most succinct definition I have read. Certainly 100% true.

yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/brexit/the-tao-of-brexit/

What can Chinese philosophical text written more than two thousand years ago tell us about how to understand the politics of Brexit? As the debate about Brexit shifts, and as we begin to see Brexiters claiming that its increasingly obvious failure is down to ministers no longer being true Brexit believers, one has to ask whether Brexit is like the Tao – the Brexit that can be delivered is not the true Brexit.

Slowly easing the UK (City of London) out of EU finance markets.

www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/eu-sets-out-proposals-on-post-brexit-rules-for-derivatives-clearing/ar-AA14DKxb

The sad irony is that Osborne fought the ECB in EU court to allow the right to clear keep clearing houses in London and won.

Yay! More Brexshit winning!

Frontier checks for British travellers to Europe could take up to four times longer, just in time for next year's summer holidays...

Not specifically Brexshit, but what a hideous response from a Tory MP to his constituents just for wanting to go to a meeting to raise concerns about water quality...

Its not the MP..... its the Police !!!

wtf were they doing going to visit a member of the public? who would have received no such visit had she been a victim of assault or robbery.

@HannibalHeyes there are some countries that use the police to intimidate citizens to stop them from expressing legitimate concerns about how their country is governed. We see that playing out right now in China. Seems our current lot in government might criticise that country in public but emulate them in the legislation they pass.

The reporter has it right when saying:

I find this deeply disturbing. It is part of a growing pattern of suppression and intimidation of those fighting to raise awareness of the state of our environment and the accelerating pace of climate change. The measures being adopted by government and the police are profoundly anti-democratic

Not to mention that Chris Loder must be an absolute dick to employ such actions and tellingly against two women. No surprise to see he’s a Brexiteer. Apparently he thinks it’s common sense to use police resources to avoid facing his constituents concerns about polluted water.

Over 40% of British exports have disappeared from European shelves since Brexit
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-exports-trade-eu-politics-b2234671.html

Knock me over with a feather…

We must force those who bring Slapp cases and lose to pay significant damages, to deter them from launching their cases at all. And we must ensure that those unfairly targeted by Slapps are not lumped with crippling costs. This is what the Coalition Against Slapps in Europe is calling for, and it is what our democracy demands

And who is this stalwart standing with our European counterparts to stand up for democracy in Britain??

Ta daa… David Davis

Next thing you know, Lord Frost will start advocating to rejoin the EU 😉

Yay again! Yet more winning.

Goldman Moves London Traders to Milan in Fresh Brexit Shift

Have we had the Ben Chu bit on Newsnight? (I am behind on the thread.)

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