Brexit mega thread part 8: platinum jubilee edition

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Fury as government waters down post-Brexit food standards

But but but, Brexshitteers constantly assured us that Brexshit was all about better animal treatment!

Just listened to Donaldson using as a justification for the Government breaking international law that ....

....the protocol isn't working because Stormont isn't sitting

....the protocol isn't working because Stormont isn't sitting

Yes, this is like the person who kills his parents and then wants sympathy because he's an orphan.

Happy reading to all

NI Protocol bill:
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Bill explanatory notes:
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Policy paper:
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Legal position:
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twitter.com/AntonSpisak/status/1536393443991293952?t=GaRzyM3I1NwxvvwbP7HXeg&s=19

David Allen Green
"State of Necessity" is perhaps the weakest legal justification placed into the public domain since the trip to Barnard Castle to test one's eyesight

Neal Richmond
twitter.com/nealerichmond/status/1536388809906077699?t=8v5QxAMkriLI-K4r44zhcg&s=19

Quite frankly, this move is pure fantasy more suited to Willy Wonka than a serious politician.

I have got to the stage that I can't bear to read it all. I hope that some of those 148 MPs have the guts to vote this down.

It's all just so depressing isn't it.

Luckily Truss provides the comedy by stumbling over Taoiseach so she ends up calling the Irish PM a tea sock.

how are you supposed to pronounce Taoiseach then for those that don't know? "Tea shock" is what I usually hear, is that wrong?

It's a bit closer than Tea Sock...

Dr. Bendor Grosvenor 🇺🇦
@arthistorynews
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I am confused. The Protocol represents such a threat to the stability of the UK that it is legal to breach the international treaty which created it, yet the threat is not serious enough to trigger the clause within the treaty specifically to deal with such a threat, Article 16?

Do you not think it might, just possibly, be within the remit of the Foreign Secretary to actually work out the correct way to pronounce it?

Or is that too "pandering to the furriners" for you Brexshitteers?

@LouiseCollins28

how are you supposed to pronounce Taoiseach then for those that don't know? "Tea shock" is what I usually hear, is that wrong?

Yes, wrong.

It's a softer T sound than the English Tee/Tea.
Think of the way the French pronounce T. Put the tip of your tongue against the back of your upper front teeth for the French and Irish T, not against the alveolar ridge right behind the upper front teeth as you do in English.

And the second syllable has a soft KH sound at the end.
It's not the English CK sound. The back of your tongue does not touch the roof of your mouth when you make this sound. It is pressed upwards but your breath squeezes through.

That O sound isn't right either. You are looking for more of a schwa than the Home Counties O.

Anton Spisak
@AntonSpisak
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Wait until Moscow or Beijing invokes "the doctrine of necessity" to override its international obligations. The damage that UK ministers are doing with this bill - simply because they cannot accept their mistake and negotiate in good faith - goes far beyond Northern Ireland.

Nail on the head there.

This is yet more proof that Boris Johnson and his entire cabinet are a pack of charlatans.

BJ signed knowing it wouldn't work and knew he would need to renegade on this treaty but it was more important (for him) to Get Brexit Done... and win power.

Thats all Brexit is @LouiseCollins28 not jobs, sovereignty, self determination or even immigration (1000s coming in from HK every week and they are not fleeing war, purely economic)

The only think i find more incredible is you can't or wont see it.

John Grace
I see no lawyer has been stupid enough to put their name to the government legal advice published with the NI bill.

BJ signed it because he couldn't be arsed to read the small print.

'get brexit done" was more important than details.

twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1536610745387044868?t=gZJhld-E7n4XZQo86RlHhA&s=19
I haven't seen a more thorough dismantling of gov't policy than this interview by @skynewsniall to @trussliz on the Northern Ireland protocol in a long while. Truss has not a single answer, of course, but it's satisfying to see the right questions asked. Deserves to go viral

Theresa Villiers yesterday in the news last night really struggled to come up with coherent reasons beyond "but we don't like it"

It was lovely to see her so uncomfortable - but at the same time sad for the UK's international reputation.

Theresa Villiers has been struggling to be coherent for some time.

Because of course there is, there is now an Irish Tea Sock twitter account;

IRISHTEASOCK
@irishteasock
hey

@trussliz

, can you DM me asap, need phone number for the EU.
I am as real as your attempts, and your government's attempts to make the protocol work.
#BrexitLies #BrexitHasFailed #LizTruss #NIprotocol

Missed this yesterday

George Eustice tells MPs he can announce today that 10,000 more visas will be issued under the Govt's seasonal worker scheme. It will be expanded to include poultry workers for the first time too.

So what Liz Truss was really saying is that NI is doing better as a result of the Protocol, so let's smash things up for them too.

In reality, since Truss wasn't Foreign Sec or NI Minister at the time the Protocol was signed, I would suspect that she has never read it. I would doubt whether she's read the Good Friday Agreement.

It will be expanded to include poultry workers for the first time too.

Who will pay for the visas? If it's the employers will they pass the cost on to the consumer? Will people want to come anyway?

The bit of Liz Truss' Sky interview with Niall Paterson that I could thole watching had her justifying the immediate need to unilaterally change the Protocol (rather than invoke Article 16) - this concept of "doctrine of necessity" for something that isn't an emergency - because......

.....business had increased North-South in the island of Ireland and had decreased East-West

What they can't admit is that NI illustrates in miniature (with - or because of - the added complication of the GFA) the damage that is being done to the UK because of having left the Single Market (let alone the EU).