Brexit mega thread part 8: platinum jubilee edition

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First test is to dump that dirgy national anthem and replace it with a much more appropriate song. "Jerusalem" would do. Especially as King Charles is a massive Parry fan (I bet fuck all "royalists" saw his engaging documentary on the man. In fact I know they didn't. Bunch of traitors).

No need for any discussion either. It's just his word and 'tis done. One of the few powers (if not the only one) he'll have. That and choosing from the dressing up box.

Sweet Caroline would be a contender now we are entering the Carolean era

Technically Caroline era. Although I prefer Carolingean

That and choosing from the dressing up box.

Yep, all those people dressed up like a pack of playing cards.

>all those people dressed up like a pack of playing cards

Suspect the uniform design pre-dated the playing cards - always possible that some of those uniforms are originals as well :)

BREAKING: Russia funneled over $300 million into political parties and candidates around the world — including the US — since 2014, according to a new US intelligence review.

Brexit, Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, Le Pen — there’s a reason for the rising tide of fascism: the Kremlin.

twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1569801472698875905?t=BpOAiq5NvwpklXhX2xSVnQ&s=19

There is a link to the WP article but it is behind paywall. Luckily the BBC provides an article as well but spot the missing word

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-62897570

Just saw this @DuncinToffee posted on the Ukraine thread.

We always knew Putin was laughing at the Brexit outcome. Probably couldn’t believe the gullibility of the elderly voting public. But as always, the BBC’s ‘balanced’ coverage means carefully avoiding certain trigger words.

It strikes me as strange that the Tories make a big show of British values and Britishness. Yet are so fast and happy to demolish institutions such as the press, the judiciary etc that have upheld the putative British values of democracy and free speech.

The true values they hold dear are much more around money and power and privilege.

There was an interesting article on the British colonial legacy in the Washington Post four days ago.

The ugly side of Queen Elizabeth's legacy matters. Here's why by Elizabeth Kolsky, a professor of history at Villanova University.

This is apropos of ongoing rumblings in the Caribbean on the shedding of the trappings of past oppression.

PM to give reading at funeral - presumably chosen by QE2
.. Here's hoping for an apposite choice for what are effectively words from beyond the grave.... (she has form after all.)

www.cityam.com/brexit-onslaught-deepens-as-a-third-of-all-uk-firms-exporting-to-eu-simply-vanish-due-to-red-tape-knockout/

The number of UK businesses exporting goods to the EU fell 33 per cent to 18,357 in 2021, from 27,321 in 2020, according to data from HMRC.

Yesterday’s Farming Today had an account of how one woman’s rare breed goat business had been impacted by Brexit.

What an almighty shambles it all is.

Oops link
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001bz62

Nicola Horlick (sic?) was being iinterviewed on R4 today about the weakening pound and drily commenting on how previously this was good for British firms exporting but that unfortunately with Brexit it was not good news for anyone. Sigh. What a load of dickheads run the country now.

Ds1 and I were chatting yesterday.

We both feel that the this whole "National Grieving" is because people are actually genuinely scared about what's coming and - for many - the Queen and the RF mean stability and "Rule Britannia" and the memoroes pf "Empire".

This week sees final farewell to a HofS who - whatever your views on the RF - did what she saw as her duty, without complaint, for 75 years.

Although a Republican myself, I found her National address before the first lockdown immensely moving and heartfelt.

She has, simply, always been there. Even for people like me who are not royalist there is a sense of an ending - not just for her as a living being, or for her family who have lost a loved one, but an ending of the UK as an outward looking, relevant, formidable force in the World.

Our PM is now Liz Truss (sorry, I have to keep repeating it - it seems so absurd...)

This week will see the BofE MPC put up interest rates again (some pundits are predicting a 1% rise...) a mini budget which is not being overseen by the OBR and will thus be financially unworkable.

Rumours of a U turn on the NI hike and raising the personal IT threshold to £80k.

^ both of these will benefit our household.

I still think they are short sighted and wrong. The adult social care crisis that prompted the NI rise is worse now. So where will that money come from now?

The PM is getting rid of it simply because it was a policy of the last Chancellor who ran against her in the leadership race.

She is petty, small minded and not very bright.

I feel the same sense of dread now as I did when De Pfeffle became PM. To be governed by such venal, self serving idiots is painful.

It's like these people don't remember the 1970s...rampant inflation, high interest rates, pound weak and getting weaker...

Winter is coming.

I think you have summed it up well. It is the end of something and the start of a long hard and horrible winter. (Not a Royalist- but she has always sort of been there on stamps and money and just being the Queen)

She is petty, small minded and not very bright.

I feel the same sense of dread now as I did when De Pfeffle became PM. To be governed by such venal, self serving idiots is painful

I share these concerns and frustrations. Whilst ambivalent about the RF, my sense was that her majesty was an adult at the head of this institution and ruled with a sense of wider duty. After pengate, I’m not so sure about our new monarch. I didn’t like Theresa May’s hostile environment but did think that she was an adult with a sense of wider duty. That was the last time an adult held PM office.

God help us now with our current lot of rulers. Truly frightening.

I have a feeling he won't be King for long somehow...he is so unsuited to it (which is odd when you consider how long he has been waiting...)
Once the National Grieving is over I think his pettiness and peevishness will come to the fore.
I'm not a fan.

After pengate, I’m not so sure about our new monarch.

The jury is out as far as I am concerned, but I do wonder whether Rees-Mogg and Johnson would have tried proroguing Parliament with a Monarch who was perfectly capable of telling them where to get off. For all Elizabeth was Queen, she was a woman and that would make her inferior in dePeffle and Grease-Smug's eyes.

The last monarch who put up a fight against Parliament was also named Charles iirc.

Yes @Peregrina my DH reminded me that King Charles (not quite used to that yet) did express his objection to the Rwanda deportation scheme. He might have had words for Johnson’s little plan for proroguing Parliament. Well, we need all the help we can get with Truss’s sh*t show of a government so let’s see.

Truss busts another brexit myth

Liz Truss has arrived in New York where she told journalists on the plane overnight that there’s no sign of a post-Brexit trade deal with the US any time soon.

“I don’t have an expectation that those [talks] are going to start in the short to medium term.”

Remember how a FTD with the US was easy-peasy. Farage once said it would take 48 hours!

If you want a laugh (and who doesn't) just suggest to the gammon brigade that Liz Truss has a secret agenda to rejoin. Or rather ask them what a Liz Truss administration that would rejoin would be saying about a US trade deal ...

Incidentally, now we are hearing calls for "Brexit 2.0" then whatever happened to the idea of only getting one bite of the cherry ?

I see a 2-track EU is being resurrected (no matter what people want to call it).

I understand that Biden has gone on the record saying that "trickle down economics does not work." and that a different approach is required.

That'll make his meeting with Truss squeezed into his schedule at the UN and not at the White House interesting

Trickle down economics is the economics of colonialism, pure and simple.

I wonder when the UK will wake up to the fact that Ukraine still wants to join the EU ?