Brexit mega thread 7 : global Britain is looking rather insignificant.....

[ChiswickFlo]

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@DuncinToffee

'knowing what a woman is' is the new 'but Corbyn'

Abso-bloody-lutely! It gives me the rage knowing that women will vote for these useless corrupt misogynist tossers just because Boris has thrown out a popular soundbite on the trans debate. Yes, it's a complex issue - but it's become so polarised that everyone is now officially stupid about it.

We will.

I'm as GC as they come and I assure you I won't be voting for them!

I won't vote Tory. I won't vote for any other pious fraud parties either.

Abso-bloody-lutely! It gives me the rage knowing that women will vote for these useless corrupt misogynist tossers just because Boris has thrown out a popular soundbite on the trans debate.

Like I said, it's a cloak for their classist, racist, misogyny and xenophobia. It absolves them of critical thinking.

There is some comfort in applying DGRs law of numbers and knowing that for all the braying, around 33% won't actually vote.

@TheElementsSong

I won't vote Tory. I won't vote for any other pious fraud parties either.

Me neither.

Didn’t they take the piss when Corbyn mentioned re nationalising fuel/transport if only ☹️ That’s what happens I suppose when you were the spivs of Europe hawking the family silver off to the highest bidder
DGR that diagram needs posting on all the fuel threads.

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wouldn't vote tory, wouldn't vote labour. A bit politically homeless. Lib dems maybe - very depressing state of politics today.

@dontcallmelen

Didn’t they take the piss when Corbyn mentioned re nationalising fuel/transport if only ☹️ That’s what happens I suppose when you were the spivs of Europe hawking the family silver off to the highest bidder DGR that diagram needs posting on all the fuel threads.

It would have been much better. I always think of Norway and their huge pension fund and better standards of living funded by their gas reserves. We could have had that.

The week in Tory

Longest, stupidest one yet....

twitter.com/RussInCheshire/status/1509923195230502920?t=6gMohGvqxs3mwYgFoebuZA&s=19

New report on the billions of Euros spent on consultancy firms by French government - £1 billion last year alone from Covid to climate change. Increased under Macron.

They were integrally involved in some of the most major government reform projects from pension and other benefits reform to economic recovery plan. Including McKinsey which, despite the award of government contracts haven’t paid taxes in France for over 10 years.

www.publicsenat.fr/article/parlementaire/un-phenomene-tentaculaire-opaque-le-rapport-au-vitriol-du-senat-sur-le-recours

DeepL for non French speakers.

Just finished reading the excellent "after the dust settles", lucy Eastcote.

Most of the book talks about how planning for recovery from disaster matured in her working life - 2000 onwards. Then almost as an after story she explains how planning for 'optics' took over planning for recovery from disaster with the new government. Unsaid is the sorry state we are now in.

Frankie, that was this week's Book of the Week on R4. The bits I heard were very interesting.

Yes, that's what made me pick up the book - she makes the point that contrary to the messaging a pandemic was the most planned for disaster over the last 20 years - not just influenza but also SARS etc - the only pandemic they had balked at in exercises was an ebola outbreak.

The day before Grenfell they had an exercise almost matching that fire. The 'brass' at that exercise thought it too far fetched and lost interest.

She identifies the unwillingness of the new (govt/civil service) intake to consider compound scenarios - (she had posited a pandemic happening during brexit in 2019) - but government machine thought these scenarios were too extreme to be worth effort.

It's a reflection of much of the commentary on these threads - that the last decade of government has focused on managing optics rather than managing the country.

Pmk

Oh dear. If only US voters had listened to the Express.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/express-up-in-arms-as-hopes-of-post-brexit-us-trade-deal-fade-away-318271

Obama did warn us, and got roundly excoriated for it.
Trump wasn’t really interested in free trade either, “America First” was the giveaway there.

@borntobequiet

Obama did warn us, and got roundly excoriated for it. Trump wasn’t really interested in free trade either, “America First” was the giveaway there.

Notice the Express' wording ...

Boris Johnson s hopes.

Remember, plan B was to ensure that Brexit is the millstone around the Tories necks, in the absence of rejoining.

We know that the sacred cow of Brexit can't be challenged. So the next best thing is to ram home the fact that any failures in it must be the people in charge.

Rinse
and
repeat.

This isn't just any old Brexit. This is Tory Brexit.

Just listened to R4 and the whole partygate debacle. Hearing that Helen McNamara, a bloody director of ethics at the cabinet office has been fined by police for attending a "raucous" lockdown karaoke party during lockdown explains everything.

R4 then spoke to a formal civil servant/ think tank research fellow who, when asked to explain the culture, came up with a whole list of possible excuses including using the word ‘exceptional’ as in implying they might’ve thought themselves exceptional.

She wasn’t necessarily defending them, but we’ve all seen how no on else was allowed to contextualise their transgressions. Not even to be with a dying relative. The whole lot at No 10 and the cabinet office are entitled and their behaviour was (is?) rotten to the core. No wonder Dom hated them so much.

It's the endless excuses the Tories make to protect Johnson and thereby treating us all as idiots, little people who should just do as they are being told.

Putinesque..

Actually they are not even excuses, just blatant lies.

I spent from 4pm Saturday to 7am yesterday (so 15 hours) in an a&e triage area with my 76 year old mum.
She has multiple health issues including copd and cardiomyopathy.
She was left sitting on a chair for those 15 hours and if I hadn't been there to advocate for her would have been without water, pain relief or any observations.
I had to ask 3 times for pain relief for her.
She has been admitted and has sepsis.
I told them 3 times she was dehydrated but she was not put on a drip until 8am yesterday.
As of 10pm last night she is not responding to the antibiotics and the surgical SHO has told me that if her bowel perforates they won't operate.
It's horrific.
The NHS is not working and some of the staff I've dealt with over the past 48 hours should not be allowed anywhere near vulnerable people.
The wait I can accept (there are no beds) but the dreadful "care" is preventable and sadly the poor attitude of some staff seems systemic.
How can we be denying people even basic pain relief?
Neil kinnock was right in 87.
"Don't get ill and don't get old" in tory Britain.

So sorry Flo. Godd job she has you. Hoping for better news for her today.

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