Brexit mega thread 7 : global Britain is looking rather insignificant.....

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Only 1/3 of Leave voters - that means the vast majority still think it was a good idea. I despair.

55% of voters now want to rejoin the EU on same terms we left.

I think that ship has sailed. We might eventually get back into the Customs Union, and might get limited FoM, but I cannot see any EU country wanting us back until the current Brexiters have been well and truly consigned to history.

I agree, Peregrina. The EU would be mad to let the UK back on the same terms, we've proved to be completely untrustworthy. I'd settle for having Customs Union and Single Market access and FoM for the young people who have been robbed of their prospects by the Brexiteers.

But that's only 2/3 of the 52% of the 37% who voted in the EU referendum that still think its a good idea...
So not that many really

Not to mention that this is byline times who are hardly unbiased on this.

I feel very sad for ds, who is graduating with a PIR degree this summer, that options to get truly international experience have been cut off from him

Oh, we will be begging to rejoin. No doubt about that. But it'll be on their terms (joining the euro etc)

Hurray Mordaunt (and the BBC) tells us we now have a trade deal with the US!

Except, it's a' Memorandum of understanding' with the state of Indiana

Fucking embarrassing isn't it??

Not to mention that this is byline times who are hardly unbiased on this.

Unlike the newspapers that received 'bungs' from the government?

*Fucking embarrassing isn't it?
Yes but not surprising.

Did you read that Johnson has just changed the Ministerial Code?
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-waters-down-ethics-27083430

Lawyers at my old job used to hate being asked to work on MOUs. They said that they were a waste of their expensive and scarce time, weren't worth the paper that they were written on and were purely a bit of PR fluff. If anything they could be an expensive problem that needed to be sorted later.

They much preferred that we (in Sales) got them to work on real contracts that once signed had some real legal force of course that was before the days of a UK government who thinks breaking international agreements is ok

I was going to post this. The preamble about honesty, integrity etc. has been taken out. Tories don't like the rules because they want to break the rules, so they change the rules.

And this is what governs us and what people like Louise are cheering for. All I can see coming out of Brexit is more poverty, more corruption, less democracy.

Just wondering, what kind of majority would Louise think appropriate for a reunification vote in Ireland? A simple majority?

Well..as we know...52% of a 37% turnout in an advisory referendum is a MASSIVE AND UNQUALIFIED VICTORY AND CAN NEVER BE QUESTIONED
even when it's proved that the winning group lied. A lot
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We are living through 1970s again (which I predicted post brexshit) so eventually we will be going cap in hand to the EU again. I don't know about "sick man of europe"...we will need resurrecting...

I'd suggest that ideally reuinification should be on the basis of majority support for it within both Nationalist and Unionist communities.

As a democrat I'd perfectly happily accept a simple majority of a single franchise (all voters) in NI but I recognise that a result on that basis would cause a lot of tension.

If the question is should there be any sort of "super majority" like a 60% threshold or something I'd say no.

A turnout threshold might be appropriate but I'd willingly accept a result with one or without it.

55 Tufton Official Spokesperson
@Eddystone506
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Reminder that without Brexit, the government could have GIVEN every household £3,000 WITHOUT needing to borrow more or increase tax

Frankly, that shows you up to be a bit of an idiot, because no other country/organisation would consider making such a major constitutional decision without some kind of supermajority.

Frankly, if it wasn't for your precious Brexshit, you'd have been raging about anything not being done without a proper majority. Frankly, you're a bunch of lying fools without the brains to see how mendacious and hypocritical you are...

Being very frank there...

Things you should no longer expect from a UK minister “integrity, objectivity, accountability, transparency, honesty and leadership in the public interest.”...

Things you should no longer expect from a UK minister “integrity, objectivity, accountability, transparency, honesty and leadership in the public interest.”...

To be fair, he's merely putting in writing what has already been in practice!

(And to Brexshit voters, anything that their hero does is all fiiiiiiine because [insert word-squirrel-salad]).

a' Memorandum of understanding' with the state of Indiana

So funny.

Watch out, British government!! All they really want is to unload the city of Gary on some unsuspecting buyer.

www.bordbia.ie/industry/news/press-releases/irish-food-and-drink-exports-enjoyed-a-record-year-as-value-of-sales-up-4-to-13.5bn-in-2021/

Meanwhile, back in the real world...

How interesting this sort of progress must look to farmers and food producers in NI.

@LouiseCollins28

And are you aware of any changes in NI and in Ireland since 1973? Political changes? Economic changes? Perspectives and values? The nature of the border itself?

What ???

Daniel Tilles
@danieltilles1
Johnson has proposed a "European Commonwealth" of the UK, Ukraine, Poland, Baltic States & later Turkey that would be an "alternative to the EU [for] countries united by distrust of Brussels and Germany's response to Russian aggression",