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Brexit mega thread part 6: Invasion and Evasion

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Opal8 · 24/02/2022 19:54

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TheABC · 25/02/2022 19:57

I am waiting for the Pearl Harbour moment. That step too far when the powers that matter go "hell no."

I think it might be an incursion into a key NATO country. Before today I would have said that even Putin would not try that on. Now I'm not so sure. No one wants to see WW3. Equally, I can't see everyone rolling over for their Russian overlords. Poland comes to mind, for example.

By the way, is there some kind of dictator rulebook? They all seem to go from paranoid to "king of the world" by the second decade.

HappyWinter · 25/02/2022 20:41

I think so @TheABC, threatening a NATO country would do it.

It's a crazy world at the moment. I had my first child a couple of years before Brexit, everything has gone nuts since then, what kind of world have I brought them into? But we have just have to carry on and try and enjoy life as much as possible in these situations and see the bright spots.

@Opal8 How is everything going with your foodbank?

DuncinToffee · 25/02/2022 20:52

The Spectator Index
BREAKING Putin has now been sanctioned by all of the US, UK and the European Union

HannibalHeyes · 25/02/2022 21:14

Howard Beckett
@BeckettUnite
Since the war in Ukraine began the Tories have taken the opportunity to quietly announce £5bl cuts in the NHS budget; a life long graduate tax of £100k plus for students; and the end of any spending to support industry.

Opal8 · 25/02/2022 21:31

@HappyWinter

I think so *@TheABC*, threatening a NATO country would do it.

It's a crazy world at the moment. I had my first child a couple of years before Brexit, everything has gone nuts since then, what kind of world have I brought them into? But we have just have to carry on and try and enjoy life as much as possible in these situations and see the bright spots.

@Opal8 How is everything going with your foodbank?

OK thank you x I forsee higher usage from April sadly as the NI hike and fuel price increases bite. The UC uplift helped so many it's madness they stopped it.

As long as people don't start hoarding food again we should be OK. In the first lockdown there was just no food. Donations just fell off a cliff. I literally went round the local shops begging for uht milk 😞

I can't believe how much my grocery bill has increased in the past year/18 months.
What used to be a £70/80 basket is now £120. Same grocery store, same food. We aren't suddenly eating lobster or caviar...

I'm sorry to say I'm not very optimistic regarding the UKs future.

Back on the first Westminstender threads I said that we would end up living like we did the 1970s; Fuel/energy issues, expensive food and lack of choice, labour shortages, rise of civil unrest...I've lived through that once. I wanted better for my kids.

Of course, stretching my analogy a tad Russia invaded Afghanistan in the 70s...another country suffering from the mad proclivities of a megalomaniac. How many young Russian soldiers died in the dust on the roads to Masar E Sharif? How many civilians bombed out of theor homes/villages? and for what???

Such a waste. Just such fucking waste.

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HannibalHeyes · 25/02/2022 21:36

As ever, the Papua New Guinea Courier is bang on the money...

Brexit mega thread part 6: Invasion and Evasion
DuncinToffee · 25/02/2022 22:03

@HannibalHeyes

Howard Beckett *@BeckettUnite* Since the war in Ukraine began the Tories have taken the opportunity to quietly announce £5bl cuts in the NHS budget; a life long graduate tax of £100k plus for students; and the end of any spending to support industry.
Also via Colin Yeo Wow. Literally today the Home Office has released a short briefing explaining how its new anti-refugee law will enable deportation of a Ukrainian (or other) refugee who passes through a third country on the way to the UK for “overseas asylum processing”. twitter.com/colinyeo1/status/1497322354044817409?s=21
Jason118 · 25/02/2022 22:11

It's almost like the war is a deliberate cover...... no surely not.

DrBlackbird · 25/02/2022 22:24

£5bl cuts in the NHS budget is insane. And what utter assholes to announce that today.

Opal8 · 25/02/2022 22:24

@DrBlackbird

£5bl cuts in the NHS budget is insane. And what utter assholes to announce that today.
No one will know/care
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DrBlackbird · 25/02/2022 22:36

I would hope if they knew, then they’d care, but if it’s not picked up by any mainstream news outlet, then there’s no chance at all for anyone to express outrage. The bastards. Wasn’t there a Bush administrative person who advocated getting some bad news out quick on the day of 9/11 to avoid scrutiny? Seems like our gov’t is equally honourable.

Opal8 · 25/02/2022 22:41

But they DO know

It IS being reported

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DrBlackbird · 25/02/2022 22:59

I’ve just gone through the BBC website and The Graun and can’t find that story? Is it linked to stopping Covid testing? Where can they possibly cut £5b from?!

DrBlackbird · 25/02/2022 23:00

I’m not on Twitter so can’t look there…

Opal8 · 25/02/2022 23:11

Being reported on sky news site but you hsve to look

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Opal8 · 25/02/2022 23:12

Sorry can't seek to link

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Opal8 · 25/02/2022 23:15

Also on bbc site (what's happening in Parliament)

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Abra1d1 · 25/02/2022 23:17

It was a New Labour aide who said it was a good day to bury bad news on 9/11.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1823120.stm

DrBlackbird · 25/02/2022 23:25

[quote Abra1d1]It was a New Labour aide who said it was a good day to bury bad news on 9/11.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1823120.stm[/quote]
Interesting. I was in North America when that quote made news. Definitely made by someone hard of thinking.

Abra1d1 · 25/02/2022 23:31

I imagine she must have regretted it for a long time after. Words you can’t take back… Im

DrBlackbird · 25/02/2022 23:31

Still can’t find the story on the NHS cuts!
Any links would be appreciated :-)

HannibalHeyes · 25/02/2022 23:34

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BREAKING: The Tories have vowed to cripple Russia's economy in both the short and long term. Given they've already done this to the UK economy, Putin should be very worried indeed x

RoseAndRose · 26/02/2022 06:19

@DrBlackbird

£5bl cuts in the NHS budget is insane. And what utter assholes to announce that today.
It's not a cut, which is why MSM are nitnreporting it as such (but it doesnt surprise me that the parallel universe that is Twitter has led of the gullible who are eager to believe)

NHS asked for an additional £5b to cover some covid costs. That has been refused. Does it that put pressure on NHS when it comes to living within its means, well yes it does. But as so often pointed out, much non-covid work was suspended, so presumably some other costs came down - though will return in coming years as backlog is tackled

KevinTurvysGravy · 26/02/2022 06:33

Pmk

Peregrina · 26/02/2022 06:42

NHS asked for an additional £5b to cover some covid costs.

The wrong person must have asked obviously but if it had been a Tory mate who couldn't deliver the goods money would be no object.

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