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Brexit mega thread part 6: Invasion and Evasion

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Opal8 · 24/02/2022 19:54

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ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 14:08

@pointythings

So. If I understand you correctly...

ANY and ALL EU laws including those proposed by the UK when still a member and even those greatly benefitting the UK and UK industries are inherently "bad" because they were made whilst we were a member? (For example the huge EU subsidies for our farmers and fishing industries)

Am I understanding?

And that it's worth spending tax payer money and time to simply replicate but remove the word "EU" from said statutes?

Is that right?

If that is right, then that's akin to a toddler refusing to eat the cutted up pear because it was mummy who cut it up and not daddy. Which takes 'Brexit as a religion' to a whole new level.

I think that's why I'd really like clarification and to make sure I'm understanding... Because if thats the case then....? What else is there to say?
TheElementsSong · 15/03/2022 14:30

ANY and ALL EU laws including those proposed by the UK when still a member and even those greatly benefitting the UK and UK industries are inherently "bad" because they were made whilst we were a member? (For example the huge EU subsidies for our farmers and fishing industries)

Am I understanding?

And that it's worth spending tax payer money and time to simply replicate but remove the word "EU" from said statutes?

Is that right?

That's how I understood it, just the same as I understood it the previous time it was written.

Still, it's a puzzle to me why people might get the impression that Brexit-supporters are gut-driven xenophobes.

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 14:36

...and still no answer on a specifc law?

DuncinToffee · 15/03/2022 14:37

I wonder if JRM ever got answers on that question...

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 15/03/2022 14:48

I know b) costs Parliamentary time and money but I want EU law gone from UK statute books to the maximum extent permitted. Why? If we're talking about laws that the UK proposed and that benefit the UK, why?

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 14:49

@DuncinToffee

I wonder if JRM ever got answers on that question...
I'm still unsure how more people weren't terrified that the minister for brexshit opportunities resorted to asking Sun and Daily Mail readers for ideas!...

"Still think brexshit was a good idea? Please tell us why becuade wecsnt thi k of a single positive !?"

HannibalHeyes · 15/03/2022 15:27

If that is right, then that's akin to a toddler refusing to eat the cutted up pear because it was mummy who cut it up and not daddy. Which takes 'Brexit as a religion' to a whole new level.

It's very much this. Brexshit was simply English racists having a temper tantrum and stamping their feet because they couldn't always get their own way...

DGRossetti · 15/03/2022 15:33

@ChiswickFlo

...and still no answer on a specifc law?
Still no. 6 years and counting. But a nice squirrel shout to try and pretend it was all about making parliament somehow more efficient.

So if I understand correctly, it's only because the UK has left the EU it now has some parliamentary time to debate sanctioning Russian oligarchs behind the EU ? But had the UK stayed in the EU then it would have automatically have the EU sanctions applied via it's membership ?

I write as someone who has just inherited a massive folder "Brexit planning" that is starting to look like the proverbial Forth Bridge.

Peregrina · 15/03/2022 16:19

If that is right, then that's akin to a toddler refusing to eat the cutted up pear because it was mummy who cut it up and not daddy. Which takes 'Brexit as a religion' to a whole new level.

Indeed, I was thinking of the 'tampon tax' i.e. to remove VAT from them. This was a UK proposal, which the other EU states thought was a good idea and planned to adopt. So this makes it an EU law. Does this mean that we should now whop VAT back on tampons because it's not Vatable in the EU?

(I think the adoption was delayed by Brexit, but should have come in by now. This is something the UK Govt harumphed as a triumph, now that we are out of the EU. We will overlook that tampons weren't Vatable in Ireland.)

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/03/2022 17:10

Thanks to everyone who us contributing. However I still want to hear back from Louise, not from people putting words in her mouth. She's perfectly capable of speaking for herself.

DGRossetti · 15/03/2022 17:16

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

Thanks to everyone who us contributing. However I still want to hear back from Louise, not from people putting words in her mouth. She's perfectly capable of speaking for herself.
And this has been the problem from day one. No one who backed or agitated for Brexit has ever been able to get beyond the soundbites. So we end up with a parade of what people picked up from wherever with no added value whatsoever.

Just one example of something the UK has been dragooned into against its will would have been enough. But even when the more thoughtful contributors think they have found the killer argument, it takes a few seconds research to show that not only was it not the UK being forced into something. In many cases it was the UK leading the way. Smoking bans and metrication being 2 good examples.

However, even if a Brexit supporter were to be able to produce that unicorn, they still have to explain why the UK being subservient to EU law is bad, but being subservient to UN law, or WTO law, or any one of the myriad treaties the UK has signed isn't.

It's a two-step argument.

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 17:18

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

Thanks to everyone who us contributing. However I still want to hear back from Louise, not from people putting words in her mouth. She's perfectly capable of speaking for herself.
Well...

Thankfully you aren't the thread police so we will continue commenting as we heve been for 6 years on various threads.

And I am not putting words in anyones mouth BTW...I'm asking for clarification of comments and quoting those comments directly.

Thanks

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/03/2022 18:15

Oh, I would never aspire to police any thread. Least of all this one Grin.

I'm sure Louise will be back in a minute....

DuncinToffee · 15/03/2022 18:20

A lot of laws to go through...

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 18:27

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

Oh, I would never aspire to police any thread. Least of all this one Grin.

I'm sure Louise will be back in a minute....

6 hours and counting....
ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 18:28

@DuncinToffee

A lot of laws to go through...
🤣🤣
ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 18:28

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

Oh, I would never aspire to police any thread. Least of all this one Grin.

I'm sure Louise will be back in a minute....

Oh, I'm so glad...

We'll just continue "commenting" then 👍

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 18:30

In other news my Robin has got the hump with me. I've run out of mealworms. Which means that I've now got to go into town tomorrow to get some.
He's a tyrant. He followed me around the garden earlier....

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/03/2022 18:42

Flo, I'm in no hurry: I have popcorn ! Wanna share?

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 18:43

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

Flo, I'm in no hurry: I have popcorn ! Wanna share?
If its salted, yes please!
ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 18:44

Do you have chocolate other snacks? ☺️

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 18:47

Or biscuits?
I'd even accept digestives...

HannibalHeyes · 15/03/2022 18:55

Woohoo! I've finally found a Brexshit benefit!

Ok, it's only a benefit for fraudsters.

Full thread here...

Brexit mega thread part 6: Invasion and Evasion
ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 19:02

Well...very convenient for the current cabinet!!!

Dominic Cummings VERY quiet atm (unless I'm missing something..)