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Brexit mega thread part 6: Invasion and Evasion

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Opal8 · 24/02/2022 19:54

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LouiseCollins28 · 15/03/2022 19:10

@TheElementsSong

ANY and ALL EU laws including those proposed by the UK when still a member and even those greatly benefitting the UK and UK industries are inherently "bad" because they were made whilst we were a member? (For example the huge EU subsidies for our farmers and fishing industries)

Am I understanding?

And that it's worth spending tax payer money and time to simply replicate but remove the word "EU" from said statutes?

Is that right?

That's how I understood it, just the same as I understood it the previous time it was written.

Still, it's a puzzle to me why people might get the impression that Brexit-supporters are gut-driven xenophobes.

We've transposed a whole lot of EU law into UK law at our departure so there's still plenty of it.

I guess I can accept that as each law needs to be revised, it is replaced with a UK parliament passed substitute. I suspect this is what will happen anyway but that does mean that some EU derived legistlation is likely to continue to be law in the UK for decades to come.

The European Communities Act 1972, I was delighted to see, ceased to have effect in the UK from 01/01/2021.

Getting the relationship right is more important than whether a law was derived from our time as an EU member state, I'd agree to that I suppose, but ultimately I want those laws replaced if they can be.

The EU WTD which somebody asked about is now part of UK law as the "Working Time Regulations" as I understand it. I can't see it changing, as it stands I probably wouldn't seek to change it.

DGRossetti · 15/03/2022 19:12

@ChiswickFlo

Or biscuits? I'd even accept digestives...
Bought a pack of chocolate digestives last week.

Won't be getting anymore. Quite aside from the shrinkage wtf have they done to the taste ?

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 19:12

But...why????
To what end?
To have the letters E and U taken off the books?
Seriously????

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 19:13

@DGRossetti
I know...its a travesty

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 19:14

So I did understand you correctly then?

LouiseCollins28 · 15/03/2022 19:26

@ChiswickFlo

So I did understand you correctly then?
Laws that were applied in the UK as a consequence of our being a member state of the EU should be replaced when the opportunity presents itself.
HannibalHeyes · 15/03/2022 19:29

Yep, it's exactly as we all said. No sense, just a dogmatic hatred and xenophobia...

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 19:30

@HannibalHeyes

Yep, it's exactly as we all said. No sense, just a dogmatic hatred and xenophobia...
Seems so.

Oh well.

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DuncinToffee · 15/03/2022 19:34

Poor JRM, the wait continues

pointythings · 15/03/2022 19:36

I would like to apologise for describing committed Brexiteers as tantrumming toddlers.

To the toddlers, that is.

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 19:38

@pointythings

I would like to apologise for describing committed Brexiteers as tantrumming toddlers.

To the toddlers, that is.

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prettybird · 15/03/2022 19:50

At least you can reason to a certain extent with toddlers and, more importantly, they do eventually grow up Wink

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 15/03/2022 19:56

Louise still hasn't answered WHY this is necessary?

HappyWinter · 15/03/2022 20:18

Laws that were applied in the UK as a consequence of our being a member state of the EU should be replaced when the opportunity presents itself.

Hypothetically, what if there is nothing wrong with the laws, if they are laws we would pick anyway? Can we keep them then? Is there any point in replacing something that isn't broken, just for the sake of it?

Robins also like biscuit crumbs, I'm not sure they are good for them though.

Daddybegood · 15/03/2022 20:25

Chris Bryant uses parliamentary privilege to expose Farage as receiving £548,573 payment from RT

mobile.twitter.com/adamjschwarz/status/1503777104055484427?s=21

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 20:30

[quote Daddybegood]Chris Bryant uses parliamentary privilege to expose Farage as receiving £548,573 payment from RT

mobile.twitter.com/adamjschwarz/status/1503777104055484427?s=21[/quote]
Brexshitters don't care

HappyWinter · 15/03/2022 21:07

Maybe they will start to care now their leaders are on the wrong side of the conflict.

Is is quicker to write a list of who isn't being paid by the Russians? Dominic Cummings looks pretty dodgy, with the time spent in Russia and working directly against the interests of the UK.

ChiswickFlo · 15/03/2022 21:15

@HappyWinter

Maybe they will start to care now their leaders are on the wrong side of the conflict.

Is is quicker to write a list of who isn't being paid by the Russians? Dominic Cummings looks pretty dodgy, with the time spent in Russia and working directly against the interests of the UK.

Fake news innit
ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 15/03/2022 21:29

Louise I knew you wouldn't let me down.

You'll be aware that The European Communities Act 1972 took the UK out of Euratom as well as the EU.

As the UK has no nuclear reactors capable of producing isotopes used in nuclear medicine, it is now vulnerable to any glitches in the supply of these from other France, Belgium and the Netherlands.
Also, leaving Euratom adversely impacts the capability of the UK to carry out research in the nuclear field. Job losses, future loss of research income, inability to realise early benefits etc.

I cannot see the benefits of either of the above, but since you can, Louise, would you mind spelling them out for me?

Chris Bryant often impresses.

Peregrina · 16/03/2022 08:18

On the Ukraine thread I see that someone commented that Sweden does not want to join NATO because of the lack of sovereignty - they do not want other countries dictating when they go to war. The UK is perfectly happy with this particular lack of Sovereignty, and being told when to go to war. But when it comes to trade or staying in organisations which are beneficial to us, like Euratom - no, they are the dreaded EU so we must have nothing to do with them. Cutting off your nose to spite your face comes to mind.

It's to be hoped that the Ukraine war can be resolved soon and does not widen out, but the thought of a nation which cannot feed itself deliberately making it difficult to trade with its neighbours but wanting to rely on countries literally on the other side of the world, sounds like utter stupidity.

DuncinToffee · 16/03/2022 09:37

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/festival-of-brexit-failure-jacob-rees-mogg-b2036577.html

Festival of Brexit is £120m ‘waste of money’ and heading for failure, MPs say
Scathing select committee report blasts government’s handling of ‘irresponsible’ project

HannibalHeyes · 16/03/2022 09:41

Remove the "Festival of", and add several zeros to the number, and you could write the headlines of the future...

TheElementsSong · 16/03/2022 09:49

@OrangeBlossomsinthesun

Louise still hasn't answered WHY this is necessary?
I'd say the answer is very obvious, as it underpins everything about Brexit no matter how fervently its adherents protest that it ain't so.
DuncinToffee · 16/03/2022 10:22

Some good news today, Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe has been released and is coming home.

Peregrina · 16/03/2022 10:31

Some good news today, Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe has been released and is coming home.

If that is the fall out from the War in Ukraine at least it's the one positive.

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