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Brexit mega thread part 6: Invasion and Evasion

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Opal8 · 24/02/2022 19:54

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OchonAgusOchonOh · 09/03/2022 13:23

[quote DuncinToffee]Ireland

Deal done.

An incorporeal cabinet meeting has signed off on…

🔻 15c cut in excise duty for diesel
🔻 20c cut in excise for petrol
🔻 2c cut in excise for green diesel

Measures to take effect from midnight - pending Dáil approval today - until end of August.

www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0309/1285254-excise-fuel/[/quote]
We're also getting €200 credit on electricity bills. Mind you, I don't think that should be universal. It would be better to increase the fuel allowance for those who get it and to increase income thresholds for those who get the allowance.

DGRossetti · 09/03/2022 13:29

I was saddened to see LouiseCollins28 response of feeling pretty good about Brexit. It's good is it to see countries having to rearm themselves? If the armaments are used it causes death and destruction. If not it's money wasted which could be better spent elsewhere on housing, health or education.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chance_for_Peace_speech

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

prettybird · 09/03/2022 13:29

The EU must be really thankful that the UK is not a member any more Shock It would have been a dead weight on the ability of the EU to respond to the refugee crisis Sad

In good news Smile, SIL's (distant) family have arrived and are now recovering from the journey. They were able to stay with friends of db and SIL en route in Italy and France to break their journey. The friendship of strangers contrasting with the heartlessness of BJ and his cabal.

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 13:31

So glad mum moved into sheltered housing! its community heating so won't go up much. Doesn't pay for prescriptions and doesn't drive so no issues there.

Unlike many OAPs she won't be struggling to heat her home.

She has savings so can ride out the price increases.

Just got an e mail - our energy is going up by £700 up to October. Then God knows. Probably double again.

I'm going to go through my budget and start trimming. I imagine most people are doing the same?

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 13:32

@prettybird

The EU must be really thankful that the UK is not a member any more Shock It would have been a dead weight on the ability of the EU to respond to the refugee crisis Sad

In good news Smile, SIL's (distant) family have arrived and are now recovering from the journey. They were able to stay with friends of db and SIL en route in Italy and France to break their journey. The friendship of strangers contrasting with the heartlessness of BJ and his cabal.

Oh thank goodness 💜
DGRossetti · 09/03/2022 13:36

Where's Clav when you need them ?

americanconsequences.com/the-end-of-the-dollar-may-come-faster-than-you-think/

America’s share of the world’s economic output fell from 40% in 1960 to 24% in 2019. The U.S. now trails the European Union (“EU”) and China in overall export and import volumes.

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 13:49

Noooooooo!

Don't invoke the beast 🤣🤣🤣🤣

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 13:51

....

Unleaded fuel up £0.02p per litre today from yesterday here....

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 13:53

....

I've also noticed an increase in the price of takeaway coffees - now £3 per cup - which is a lot outside of London.

Oh well, I could do with limiting my caffeine intake...

Peregrina · 09/03/2022 14:00

These all sound like going back to the 1950s to me, which are surely Brexit bonuses? Most people didn't have cars, we didn't heat bedrooms, we only had one bath a week because of the cost of heating water. Food was meat and two veg, none of this fancy foreign muck like pizzas and spaghetti and Thai. What's not to like?

botharna · 09/03/2022 14:01

I think Helen McEntee is just tolling Priti now....

twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1501550861494984704

Brexit mega thread part 6: Invasion and Evasion
botharna · 09/03/2022 14:01

trolling even....

pointythings · 09/03/2022 14:07

@botharna

trolling even....
Couldn't happen to a nicer hideous person.
DuncinToffee · 09/03/2022 14:11

Patel was nowhere to be seen at PMQs today.

DGRossetti · 09/03/2022 14:15

@DuncinToffee

Patel was nowhere to be seen at PMQs today.
She was helping out at a visa application centre in Calais.
dontcallmelen · 09/03/2022 14:16

@prettybird

The EU must be really thankful that the UK is not a member any more Shock It would have been a dead weight on the ability of the EU to respond to the refugee crisis Sad

In good news Smile, SIL's (distant) family have arrived and are now recovering from the journey. They were able to stay with friends of db and SIL en route in Italy and France to break their journey. The friendship of strangers contrasting with the heartlessness of BJ and his cabal.

Oh that is good news prettybird Agree if Patel is being trolled couldn’t happen to a nicer more hideous person.
DuncinToffee · 09/03/2022 14:18

DGR did they run out of KitKats and crisps?

HannibalHeyes · 09/03/2022 14:41

She was helping out at a visa application centre in Calais.

Presumably with her trusty Kalashnikov...

Peregrina · 09/03/2022 15:15

I assume that she doesn't want people piling onto trains or ferries without visas, because if so, what is to stop those people crossing the channel in rubber dinghies from piling on too?

TatianaBis · 09/03/2022 15:53

@DGRossetti

Where's Clav when you need them ?

americanconsequences.com/the-end-of-the-dollar-may-come-faster-than-you-think/

America’s share of the world’s economic output fell from 40% in 1960 to 24% in 2019. The U.S. now trails the European Union (“EU”) and China in overall export and import volumes.

Once that link genie is out the bottle...

Oddly, the writer doesn't mention central banks developing their own digital currencies... I can't see them going seriously for existing cryptos until they become legit mainstream currencies (which is not as far away as people think).

Gold, silver, land esp farmland, food, space that's what billionaires are investing in...

TatianaBis · 09/03/2022 15:57

@botharna

trolling even....
Yes let's toll Priti - £12.50 every time she opens her mouth (In line with ULEZ).
DuncinToffee · 09/03/2022 16:02

@Peregrina

I assume that she doesn't want people piling onto trains or ferries without visas, because if so, what is to stop those people crossing the channel in rubber dinghies from piling on too?
That ties in with what John Lichfield has been told

I’m reliably told there is a good (or bad) reason why Priti Patel and Boris Johnson refuse to allow Ukrainian refugees to apply for UK visas when they arrive in Calais. The reason? To block legal applications by asylum-seekers from other countries. 1/8
twitter.com/john_lichfield/status/1501511520261447683?s=21

LouiseCollins28 · 09/03/2022 16:05

@Peregrina

I was saddened to see LouiseCollins28 response of feeling pretty good about Brexit. It's good is it to see countries having to rearm themselves? If the armaments are used it causes death and destruction. If not it's money wasted which could be better spent elsewhere on housing, health or education. I am no particular fan of Churchill, but jaw jaw is better than war war.

For all Johnson and Truss's grandstanding we as a nation have shown ourselves up pretty badly - slow to operate sanctions which ought not to have been necessary if we hadn't welcomed so much Russian money and a shameful record on the refugee situation.

However I was really intending my post for those Brexiter MPs - Gove, Rees-Mogg, etc. etc..

I might have misunderstood your post. Though I am still feeling pretty good about Brexit nonetheless.

I thought you were asking how do people feel about countries wanting to join the EU? My answer to that would be the same, pretty good. If the people of former Soviet bloc countries want to join the EU and the EU wants to let them join, all good IMO. Just so long as it's the people who want to join, not just the government.

Look, I might not have any love for the EU but if people genuinely think that's a better future for their country and want their nation to join, then all power to those people.

I recoil when I see that an organisation affirmed by itself and its advocates as being set up to secure peace in europe (the EU) is now trying to create an alternative military alliance and supplying funds for weapons.

The way I read that is that EU nations who overwelmingly won't spend enough to adequately defend their own citizens will, as soon as a cause celebre gains traction, start funnelling 500m Euros to defend the people of a country that isn't even a member state. I find that astonishing.

ChiswickFlo · 09/03/2022 16:29

Humpf.
I've just taken ds2 (13) for his first professional haircut since lockdown.
He told my hairdresser that I made him look like a hairy coconut 🥥
So this Salon is well and truly closed 🤣

OchonAgusOchonOh · 09/03/2022 16:29

I recoil when I see that an organisation affirmed by itself and its advocates as being set up to secure peace in europe (the EU) is now trying to create an alternative military alliance and supplying funds for weapons.

The EU is not creating a military alliance. Member states within the EU are. Ireland is militarily neutral and is not involved in any military alliance.

The way I read that is that EU nations who overwelmingly won't spend enough to adequately defend their own citizens will, as soon as a cause celebre gains traction, start funnelling 500m Euros to defend the people of a country that isn't even a member state. I find that astonishing.

Maybe if some assistance was funnelled in the right direction in the late 1930's, history might have been very different.